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Regulus Corneas vs Binah

I'm gonna make myself clear again: either allow for Binah to be speed equalized against the actual combat speed that Regulus uses in actual ******* combat, or delete this thread. I really do not think Regulus' own body speed buff is in any way comparable to a ******* gun.
I am equalizing Regulus' attack speed.
I mean, you can't really equalize attack speed, it just gets multiplied down with combat speed, which uhhhhh. Also calm down a lil bit.

Though yeah, can Binah just aim-dodge his attack speed?
Regulus' combat speed is Average Human level though. His "amp" is just his attack speed, which is FTL. Basically, anything imbued with his authority will move at FTL speed. If he imbues dirt with his ability and throws it, the dirt will move at FTL speed.

Regulus does not have the actual speed necessary to react to FTL movement.
Huh, right, looks like she can just aim-dodge then.
 
Is he unable to move at FTL himself, then? As in, his body cannot move at that speed and he cannot react at that speed? Meaning that without speed equalization, he'll never be able to take aim at Binah and land a single move on her since all he has is a "gun" that shoots FTL bullets?
He can move at FTL, but only in straight lines since he can't react to his own speed. Essentially, he still fights at average human speed and has average human reactions.

He can still hit massively faster opponents with AoE attacks that are practically impossible to dodge, however.
 
He can move at FTL, but only in straight lines since he can't react to his own speed. Essentially, he still fights at average human speed and has average human reactions.

He can still hit massively faster opponents with AoE attacks that are practically impossible to dodge, however.
Kay then, so what’s gonna happen is that Binah uses Chain and Lock, which pretty much spawn on him, especially since she activates them with just mere movements at MHS speeds. Regulus can’t do jackshit because she basically has all the time in the world to do her thing and mindfucks him with 4D Black damage (actually hold on are they still considered 4D?)

Gotta tell Shad to equalize the speed.
 
I am equalizing Regulus' attack speed.
you cant
She can interact with him through conceptual attacks
if you can prove those conceptual attacks can affect things existing outside of space-time sure
and BLACK damage.
which is something Regulus is uninteractable to, so no it wouldnt work
I literally specified all of her hax abilities, the **** you mean?

She is smart enough to dodge around him, to disappear from his view and place traps for him, to completely mess him up and manipulate him midfight.
...okay? she does that and what? Regulus can at any point breath in her general direction and she dies
I highly doubt that Reinhard outskills her. Did Reinhard train for 2000 years with actual demigods? Because Binah outskills that.
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Since you dont understand skillslop, and without going into too much detail, (otherwise this thread will be ATLEAST 5 pages), the amount of time of training doesnt quantify how skilled you are
However to give you a scale, Binah would be below the mid tier of the re zero verse in skill. If you want to risk comparing skill feats though then be my guest
His ability has to work on himself as that is literally the nature of his invincibility: the ability to apply it to himself so he cannot be altered.
yeh but unfortunately that makes him uninteractable to other people, which means:
She can interact with him via her haxes: Fairy, Pillar, BLACK damage etc.
that this stuff wont interact with him
Regulus is merely resistant to mental attacks.
he isnt actually, he doesnt have any resistances
BLACK damage will get to him. Further, BLACK damage bypasses resistance to WHITE damage (mental attacks) and RED damage (physical attacks). Meaning mental attacks alone are irrelevant. Spiritual attacks would be PALE damage, which resistance to is also ignored by BLACK damage.
that stuff is uninteractable to him, layers/resistance bypassing, mixing of abilities are completely useless if you cant interact with his soul
Infinite stamina only in terms of tiredness. Binah doesn't need more than one week to torture him until he dies.
he has been untired for over a century yeh
Nuh uh my ass.
dont bring your ass into this
 
Did he, like, grab the air and throw it at FTL speeds? If so, that means he has to move in order to do that and Binah can just see that coming.
Guys here says he just breathes at her direction and it'd be a weapon of mass destruction.
So he doesn't need to go all Aang to use his powers.
 
Did he, like, grab the air and throw it at FTL speeds? If so, that means he has to move in order to do that, with human level combat speed.
he uh, breathed in the general direction, he also just started placing them as he randomly moved around at FTL speeds and even created a deadly no escape zone which even Reinhard couldnt dodge and brody can dodge rain in a rainstorm and sand in a sandstorm (which is basically impossible to do so)
 
Kay then, so what’s gonna happen is that Binah uses Chain and Lock, which pretty much spawn on him, especially since she activates them with just mere movements at MHS speeds. Regulus can’t do jackshit because she basically has all the time in the world to do her thing and mindfucks him with 4D Black damage (actually hold on are they still considered 4D?)

Gotta tell Shad to equalize the speed.
No clue what rhese do since I haven't read her profile yet, but Regulus' main gimmick is that he cannot be interacted with because of his authority. Whether speed is equal or not, 90% of the debate is gonna revolve around whether the opponent can even affect Regulus.

In fact, speed equal tends to make matches way easier for Regulus (which is kinda the point, but yeah).
 
Is he unable to move at FTL himself, then? As in, his body cannot move at that speed and he cannot react at that speed? Meaning that without speed equalization, he'll never be able to take aim at Binah and land a single move on her since all he has is a "gun" that shoots FTL bullets?
He can move in a straight line FTL. That's about it in terms of pure movement.
 
He can move at FTL, but only in straight lines since he can't react to his own speed. Essentially, he still fights at average human speed and has average human reactions.

He can still hit massively faster opponents with AoE attacks that are practically impossible to dodge, however.
I'm pretty sure Binah will be dancing all around him.

Kay then, so what’s gonna happen is that Binah uses Chain and Lock, which pretty much spawn on him, especially since she activates them with just mere movements at MHS speeds. Regulus can’t do jackshit because she basically has all the time in the world to do her thing and mindfucks him with 4D Black damage (actually hold on are they still considered 4D?)

Gotta tell Shad to equalize the speed.
Yeah, the lack of speed equalization is making this match really weird. Or do y'all think this can be a match without speed equalization?
you cant

if you can prove those conceptual attacks can affect things existing outside of space-time sure

which is something Regulus is uninteractable to, so no it wouldnt work

...okay? she does that and what? Regulus can at any point breath in her general direction and she dies

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Since you dont understand skillslop, and without going into too much detail, (otherwise this thread will be ATLEAST 5 pages), the amount of time of training doesnt quantify how skilled you are
However to give you a scale, Binah would be below the mid tier of the re zero verse in skill. If you want to risk comparing skill feats though then be my guest

yeh but unfortunately that makes him uninteractable to other people, which means:

that this stuff wont interact with him

he isnt actually, he doesnt have any resistances

that stuff is uninteractable to him, layers/resistance bypassing, mixing of abilities are completely useless if you cant interact with his soul

he has been untired for over a century yeh

dont bring your ass into this
Ugh. Let's do this again.

Please show me where does Regulus have atemporality, because I'm not seeing it in his profile. I can only see him stopping the time of things. Also, does he even have this always on? Is he even invulnerable to conceptual manipulation? As far as I understand it, Binah is just gonna seal his abilities entirely because however "cut off from the flow of time" he might seemingly be, he sure seems to be present in a place and walking around at human speeds!

Regulus can breathe in her general direction... at human speeds and with detectable powers. You're not realizing that?

The amount of time of training definitely influences how skilled you are. What skill feats do you have? Please, show me. I'm very interested on what you even have to offer there. You're just pulling shit out of your ass and expecting me to take it at face value when the character in question is a midwit and the verse is medieval.

Please explain why would a conceptual effect not interact with Regulus. You're just pulling shit out of your ass and expecting me to take at face value.

If Regulus has no resistances (despite the ones that are listed in his profile, please go read it), then he dies instantly and all your arguments are null.

Binah can indeed interact with beings that cannot be interacted with physically. She has done it before. Next.

Yeah, untired doesn't mean untortured. He'll be tortured for a week by BLACK damage until he collapses. That if Fairy doesn't kill him first.
 
I'm pretty sure Binah will be dancing all around him.


Yeah, the lack of speed equalization is making this match really weird. Or do y'all think this can be a match without speed equalization?

Ugh. Let's do this again.

Please show me where does Regulus have atemporality, because I'm not seeing it in his profile. I can only see him stopping the time of things. Also, does he even have this always on? Is he even invulnerable to conceptual manipulation? As far as I understand it, Binah is just gonna seal his abilities entirely because however "cut off from the flow of time" he might seemingly be, he sure seems to be present in a place and walking around at human speeds!

Regulus can breathe in her general direction... at human speeds and with detectable powers. You're not realizing that?

The amount of time of training definitely influences how skilled you are. What skill feats do you have? Please, show me. I'm very interested on what you even have to offer there. You're just pulling shit out of your ass and expecting me to take it at face value when the character in question is a midwit and the verse is medieval.

Please explain why would a conceptual effect not interact with Regulus. You're just pulling shit out of your ass and expecting me to take at face value.

If Regulus has no resistances (despite the ones that are listed in his profile, please go read it), then he dies instantly and all your arguments are null.

Binah can indeed interact with beings that cannot be interacted with physically. She has done it before. Next.

Yeah, untired doesn't mean untortured. He'll be tortured for a week by BLACK damage until he collapses. That if Fairy doesn't kill him first.
Why are you arguing about Regulus like you know more about the character than the verse supporters? If you don't understand how his power works based on his Vs Page alone, then go look it up on the Re:Zero wiki or something.

Anyways, I'll try replying later when I'm home.
 
Why are you arguing about Regulus like you know more about the character than the verse supporters? If you don't understand how his power works based on his Vs Page alone, then go look it up on the Re:Zero wiki or something.

Anyways, I'll try replying later when I'm home.
Because someone is doing the same to Binah. I can't help but fire back. I've been talking normally to other people.
 
even Reinhard couldnt dodge and brody can dodge rain in a rainstorm and sand in a sandstorm (which is basically impossible to do so)
At least it’s not that "slashing through earth and seeing dimensions viA sHeRr SkiLl" bs even tho this is still bs (Ultrakill skill slop my beloved- simple yet not totally cracked)
No clue what rhese do since I haven't read her profile yet, but Regulus' main gimmick is that he cannot be interacted with because of his authority. Whether speed is equal or not, 90% of the debate is gonna revolve around whether the opponent can even affect Regulus.
if you can prove those conceptual attacks can affect things existing outside of space-time sure
Stuff like Fairy and Chain can open and lock things on a conceptual level (as the profile says), including spaces, abilities and whatnot. Not too sure about the whole "invulnerability via existing outside space-time" thing, but she also nullified T.Corp's tech and their entire Singularity is all about controlling, looping, and pausing time yadda yadda, so that might work against his time stop ?

Eh whatever. I still think she can just nuke all the wives before he finishes doing his FTL attacks by breathing and the like 'cause tbf, those things still require actions, even if they’re minors. Especially since Binah is over 13000 times faster here.

Also I gotta ask why did my vote get counted and, saying Zena and whatever lap pillows are superior or better infront of me will result in yall dealing with piercing damage tonight especially since I live inside your walls.
 
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Please show me where does Regulus have atemporality, because I'm not seeing it in his profile.
Is beacause is not accepted as him have atemporality yet.
Also, does he even have this always on?
Yes, Regulus invicibility is always on.
Is he even invulnerable to conceptual manipulation?
Well, he never tank conceptual demage, so the answer is no.
The amount of time of training definitely influences how skilled you are. What skill feats do you have? Please, show me. I'm very interested on what you even have to offer there. You're just pulling shit out of your ass and expecting me to take it at face value when the character in question is a midwit and the verse is medieval.
Not sure why you two are even discussing this, Regulus is not particualy super skilled or anything.
Some of Re:ZERO skills feats can be read here. If you two want to keep going on who have better skill feats, do in private, and discuss what might be relevant for this thread please.
 
Yeah, the lack of speed equalization is making this match really weird. Or do y'all think this can be a match without speed equalization?
It’s really not that complicated. Regulus FTL stuff is not his normal speed, it comes from his Authority, which essentially "amps" him by removing physical limitations like gravity, air resistance, and conservation of momentum. His normal speed is just average human.

So when we do speed equalization, what’s being equalized is that normal speed, not the "amp" from his Authority. That part is intrinsic to his hax, so it stays. Binah, on the other hand, doesn’t have anything like that to boost her to FTL levels, so under equalized conditions, she’s stuck at average human speed while Regulus still gets to move FTL.

That’s why speed equalization doesn’t really work here, it just creates a massive gap in Regulus favor. And that's why regulus's fights are never equalized, and people don't realize how this will always make things better for the opponent, and never regulus.

The amount of time of training definitely influences how skilled you are.
Time spent training doesn’t automatically translate to skill, especially in cross verse comparisons. That logic might work within a verse if the story treats More time training = better skill, but not between verses. In fiction, skill is measured by feats (or statements), not how long you’ve trained.

Like, imagine in Verse A, a dude trains 1000 years just to cut a leaf midair blindfolded. Meanwhile, in Verse B, a rookie picks up a wooden stick and cuts through 50 leaves blindfolded on day one. Who’s more skilled? The guy with 1000 years, or the one with the objectively better skill feat?

So yeah, we scale skill based on what characters have actually done, not how long they’ve been grinding.


Anyway, this match was super one sided from the beginning regardless. Funny enough, it’ll always play out this way when Regulus goes up against characters who can affect his Authority and are faster than he can perceive/react. It’s always going to end in a blitz and one shot unless the opponent holds back for no reason or w.E. This match up comes down to who'll hit who first, and we know the obvious answer

Voting Binah FRA.
 
Not sure why you two are even discussing this, Regulus is not particualy super skilled or anything.
Some of Re:ZERO skills feats can be read here. If you two want to keep going on who have better skill feats, do in private, and discuss what might be relevant for this thread please.
After reading it, my understanding is that Theresia is the only one with remotely impressive skills that I don't see how they'd be even remotely on par with a Color. Vergilius alone has defeated far worse: a Distortion who could see the many possible futures and pick the one where it didn't die and stick to the one where it'd win, and he won against that despite the fact that opponent was his hard counter. I've also seen a lot of discussion stating that any other Color Fixer, who is not hard countered by that one Distortion's ability, would be able to wipe it out of existence regardless. Seriously, after reading through basically the entire document, even the Sword Saints are at most at a level I'd consider on par with a Grade 1 Fixer, maybe a Color. I think any Color at all has the skills to match them or exceed them, though.

So that whole argument about Regulus being able to deal with "more skilled opponents than Binah"... does not apply. The Sword Saint Blessing is not beyond the level of a Color, as far as I can tell.
 
Hell, the only reason Binah even died as an Arbiter was because she got ganked by the Red Mist (literally the strongest Color Fixer in universe, based on power and skill) at the brink of the RM's death....so basically she had to catch her off guard in order to do it

....actually, if i recall right, didnt Binah (then Garion) survive that and then "died" when she was turned into a box?
 
The amount of time of training definitely influences how skilled you are.
it certainly does not, in a cross verse setting one party can have trained for 1000s of years and not do a task that another one could have pulled off without training. That point is already covered above though so
What skill feats do you have? Please, show me. I'm very interested on what you even have to offer there.
Lets start with the basics, first lets tackle the dodging skills since that has become a main part of re zero. Emilia, who was mentally 7, without any training, dodged a danmaku of perception blizting attacks via reading her opponents' intent, Skilled peeps like Ram can dodge multiple air bombs going off in a room with no space to dodge...without exiting the room, Elsa could dodge an entire room blowing up without exiting the room, then we have people like olbart who can dodge physically undodgable attacks with the shinobi technique of dodging attacks when there is no room to dodge, and when we go even higher we have people like Reinhard, Halibel and Cecilus who can run through a rainstorm with a letter in their hand across a different city and back and not let a single drop of water land on them or the letter, they can also dodge sand particles in a sandstorm, and rain of literal light, they can also with difficulty dodge "mists of light"

You're just pulling shit out of your ass and expecting me to take it at face value when the character in question is a midwit and the verse is medieval.

Please explain why would a conceptual effect not interact with Regulus. You're just pulling shit out of your ass and expecting me to take at face value.

If Regulus has no resistances (despite the ones that are listed in his profile, please go read it), then he dies instantly and all your arguments are null.

Binah can indeed interact with beings that cannot be interacted with physically. She has done it before. Next.
Please show me an instance where she has interacted with a being outside of space-time
After reading it, my understanding is that Theresia is the only one with remotely impressive skills
tbf the blog is heavily outdated a more accurate one would be this one
that I don't see how they'd be even remotely on par with a Color. Vergilius alone has defeated far worse: a Distortion who could see the many possible futures and pick the one where it didn't die and stick to the one where it'd win, and he won against that despite the fact that opponent was his hard counter.
So basically force them into a future where there is no possible way for them to win? Easy fix, the godly intuition that anybody sword saint+ has automatically shows them the best possible pathway to win in a single strike, sword saints straight up have a white line that they just need to follow to one shot their opponents regardless of how skilled they are
Speaking of theresia, at her peak it was stated that nobody even with an eternity of training could reach her level, with the same difference being conveyed when talking about Reinhard and her/wilhelm
I've also seen a lot of discussion stating that any other Color Fixer, who is not hard countered by that one Distortion's ability, would be able to wipe it out of existence regardless. Seriously, after reading through basically the entire document, even the Sword Saints are at most at a level I'd consider on par with a Grade 1 Fixer, maybe a Color. I think any Color at all has the skills to match them or exceed them, though.
tbh halibel probably outskills all of them, i might even make a matchup if you are so confident (i love skillslop)
So that whole argument about Regulus being able to deal with "more skilled opponents than Binah"... does not apply. The Sword Saint Blessing is not beyond the level of a Color, as far as I can tell.
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oh and if Binah does in fact open with her wincon as soon as the fight starts then my vote is for her (although i read in a different matchup that she plays around too so i would like confirmation/scans on this)
 
oh and if Binah does in fact open with her wincon as soon as the fight starts then my vote is for her (although i read in a different matchup that she plays around too so i would like confirmation/scans on this)
That does indeed happen in one point in her story in Lobotomy Corporation, but it was more to a degree of bullying Gebura (then Kali) with "oh you failed to protect everyone and now look at you" before getting ganked

In this type of scenario? With that she knows, this is just some random annoyance that's to be dealt with, so most likely she'd just try to kill him as soon as possible
 
Someone really needs to separate those keys into Pre-Lobotomy and Post Lobotomy ngl
 
it certainly does not, in a cross verse setting one party can have trained for 1000s of years and not do a task that another one could have pulled off without training. That point is already covered above though so

Lets start with the basics, first lets tackle the dodging skills since that has become a main part of re zero. Emilia, who was mentally 7, without any training, dodged a danmaku of perception blizting attacks via reading her opponents' intent, Skilled peeps like Ram can dodge multiple air bombs going off in a room with no space to dodge...without exiting the room, Elsa could dodge an entire room blowing up without exiting the room, then we have people like olbart who can dodge physically undodgable attacks with the shinobi technique of dodging attacks when there is no room to dodge, and when we go even higher we have people like Reinhard, Halibel and Cecilus who can run through a rainstorm with a letter in their hand across a different city and back and not let a single drop of water land on them or the letter, they can also dodge sand particles in a sandstorm, and rain of literal light, they can also with difficulty dodge "mists of light"


Please show me an instance where she has interacted with a being outside of space-time

tbf the blog is heavily outdated a more accurate one would be this one

So basically force them into a future where there is no possible way for them to win? Easy fix, the godly intuition that anybody sword saint+ has automatically shows them the best possible pathway to win in a single strike, sword saints straight up have a white line that they just need to follow to one shot their opponents regardless of how skilled they are
Speaking of theresia, at her peak it was stated that nobody even with an eternity of training could reach her level, with the same difference being conveyed when talking about Reinhard and her/wilhelm

tbh halibel probably outskills all of them, i might even make a matchup if you are so confident (i love skillslop)

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oh and if Binah does in fact open with her wincon as soon as the fight starts then my vote is for her (although i read in a different matchup that she plays around too so i would like confirmation/scans on this)
  1. Show me one such task that characters from PMverse cannot do. Oh, you don't know any because you don't know shit about the verse? Damn.
  2. Argalia alone can perform all the dodging feats listed. He is immune to ranged attacks and it is always depicted as dodging. It's implied he can always dodge ranged attacks no matter what due to a mix of augments and skills.
  3. Irrelevant. Conceptual attacks will ignore that. Also, she can interact with Purple Tear (Iori).
  4. Yup. And that's considered merely Grade 1 in the PMverse. Meaning anyone Color+ can beat it with the sole exception of Pre-EGO Vergilius who happened to be hard countered. Everyone else can cope, including every single other Color. Arbiters are above Colors.
  5. Cool, right? Nobody even with 2000 years of training can reach the skill level of a Color, even if trained by a Color. And again, arbiters are above Colors.
  6. Stop invalidating shit just 'cause you don't like it. It really seems like you just don't know anything about PMverse and are just fanboying over your favorite isekai slop. I at least watched Re:Zero before commenting here.
  7. Binah may or may not play around. It depends on whether she has a personal interest on her opponent: she played around with Kali. If she finds Regulus to be just a snotty nerd, she will indeed instafodderize him out of annoyance.
 
I dont even know how this is even a debate at this point, it just seems like Binah shitstomps yet again 💀
 
You switching your vote to Binah? The thread ain't counting you as a Binah voter.
Uh i'm kinda lost in that vs i haven't check the arguments after my vote so how is binah winning exactly in this vs as far as i see binah can't leave library so binah won't be able to hit regulus wives if he has standart melee range and even if he has range he is not aware from regulus abilities and what if regulus sees binah as his wife?
 
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