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Ainz vs Reinhard
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Fezzih_007
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Why this again?
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Indeed it was
FantaRin_The_First
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... Wasn't that given for a reason? Like, Ainz just got stomped without it?
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I am actually not sure why he had it, its not a stomp because AInz starts off with time stop almost everytime and he could have done something at that point
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I do vividly recall that Reinhard (and Re:Zero as a whole) wasn't as skilled and haxed as he is now but Ainz still got all of that. So, maybe the prep and full knowhow was given for a reason.
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if it doesnt work out i dont mind giving it to him
FantaRin_The_First
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Oh ye. Ainz got that layed mind/emp/maddness hax. Ainz just needs to stand next to Reinhard and he just gets incap'ed by Despair Aura.
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Reinhard has resistance upto 2 layers so no that aint working with the divine blessing of nightmares
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Could you tell me where you were accepted? This is not stated in Rein's profile or in the layer evaluation thread.
Anyway, it doesn't matter, Ainz has resistance negation so layered resistance doesn't matter.
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NLF to assume it can negate resistances upto 2 layers when it hasnt shown to be able to do so
Fezzih_007
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It doesn't work like that, Resistance negation works even If the character have 30 layers of something.
Reinhard would Resistance to Resistance negation
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I saw that Glass accepted the second layer for the soul/mind thing but where are the madness type 3 layers?
It's not an NFL, that's just how the skill works. It ignores layers, so just stacking them doesn't make a difference.
Just like it doesn't matter if you have infinite layers of soul hax resistance, you won't be able to resist conceptual soul hax.
Anyway, Ainz has EE (mind and soul) resistance with world class items although it doesn't matter much with the AP difference.
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Nonynho
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you literally got the reasoning correct, before. Rein starts with a hax that makes this a stomp
if you give ainz the conditions we gave, it doesnt become a stomp.
we have other 3 threads that got through this, i may ask this to be closed later
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should be around page 17 i think
Yeah and i just checked penetrate magic only increases the chance of a hax penetrating a resistance and it reads closer to adding a layer then resistance negation
TGOALID on the other hand is a very specific death hax that Ainz doesnt just bring out the wazoo and even if he does Reinhard can literally just respawn
yeah Reinfard has the advantage there
I feel like your arguement was bs tbh, Ainz's time stop is thought based and usually his first move which allows him to move wherever he feels is comfortable or stack up any type of magic he wants
3 severely outdated threads that happened before any major ReZero revisions even took place, mind you
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ok
It is still a factor even if it is an increased chance.
According to the profile he has other abilities that negate resistance to death. The part before mentions TGOALID, but it is not specified. So idk.
The problem is that from what I remember he doesn't start with the TS which is layered. From what I remember the feat used was that he used the TS on someone who resisted and then used the layered one.
But I could be wrong about that.
If you want to redo the VS that is in the profile, you would have to do it under the same conditions. Since if Ainz loses here, it would not affect the VS that is in the profile.
But I don't know if that is your goal.
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Alright, morons.
Ainz time stops, Christmas trees Reinhard and kills him once, ***** off for a bit to like the moon when he comes back to observe Reinhard from a distance, and teleports in and spawncamps with Despair Aura V.
We done?
No, no we are not.
Ainz time stops, Christmas trees Reinhard and kills him once, ***** off for a bit to like the moon when he comes back to observe Reinhard from a distance, and teleports in and spawncamps with Despair Aura V.
We done?
No, no we are not.
That is just above baseline Death Manipulation, not a layer. His layer comes from the Staff... which he has. So he's punching through Reinhard's defenses.
You are.
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And Reinhard revives
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You know the part where I said SPAWNCAMP?
Despair Aura V has a pretty decent AoE, so Reinhard just gets incapped because Ainz can absolutely stand in one spot for 24 hours.
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Also, Calcium may talk, and Reinhard would absolutely fall for Calcium talking because Ainz has some pretty good SI. Not Warhammer Azazel good, but good SI.
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Not a layer, it's just that I saw this part in the resistance denial justification, that he has other ways to deny resistance with death hax besides the staff. So I thought he could do it without the staff.
ok
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Someone actually edited his profile without a CRT, give me a bit as I figure out who it was.
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I can't. Guess we're dealing with REALLY shaky resistance negation.
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I edited yesterday and only changed formatting
We winning 100% here again, aren't we?
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Lmfao
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Voting Reinhardest FRA fr
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Let's not go Lust IF....
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true but Reinhard has more chances of nuking Ainz before that happens
Oh btw, its been a while since i read overlord so can you tell me in how many fights did he instantly start with TS
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Time Stop is thought-based. Ainz gagglefucks Reinhard, he comes back, Ainz teleports away to observe out of his range, and comes back right on top of him with Despair Aura V active.
In Unknown fights(IE SBA) he's only ever not started with it once.
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so he has used it on 5 instances out of every battle he has been in, got it
And how many fights has he been in total?
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So that was his strategy? Sorry but Ainz is cooked, Reinhards range is 10,000+ kms and Ainz reasonably will not teleport farther than that
Reinhard rangefucks Ainz when he runs away
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The question is how many fights has Ainz been in where he doesn't have pretty much complete prior knowledge of the opponent.
That list isn't very long.
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he doesnt have prior knowledge here my guy, read the OP
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"Oh Ainz won't teleport farther away!"
All right so where is Ainz's retreat spots? that he doesn't have by SBA?
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