T-Rex Mario changes

[Hypertornado099]

T-Rex (Mario Bros)

T-Rex, short for "Tyrannosaurus rex", is an extinct dinosaur species in real life. Within the Super Mario franchise, the T-Rex is shown to be the ancestor of President Koopa in the 1993 Super Mario Bros. film. Members of this species notably appear in Super Mario Odyssey as enemies that can be...

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Minor Toon Force (Stars fly around its head when stunned)

What about this is Toon Force? The T-Rex isn't bypassing the laws of physics to achieve a comedic feat here

Sound Manipulation (Its roar is loud enough to scare birds away)

This is ridiculous. Generating a loud sound enough to scare birds away is something any human can do. We don't even give animals like lions sound manipulation for having loud roars

Lifting Strength: Class Y (Superior to Mario, who is comparable to Luigi, who threw a large cord to a satellite with this much force)

No scan is provided for the T-Rex being superior in terms of lifting strength, so I think this should be changed to unknown.

 

[Hypertornado099]

Bump

 

[HenshinIntervention]

What about this is Toon Force? The T-Rex isn't bypassing the laws of physics to achieve a comedic feat here

My guess is that the "comedic" feat here is the stars flying around his head when stunned, but it's so minor and useless that I'd agree with just removing this entirely. Hardly any "reality warping" happening if at all.

Agree with the rest of the OP

 

[SamanPatou]

I would honestly even delete the profile itself, it's such a minor character with to little to talk about that it really doesn't deserve a page.

 

[Hypertornado099]

I would honestly even delete the profile itself, it's such a minor character with to little to talk about that it really doesn't deserve a page.

I disagree, its a boss with notable feats

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

T-Rex (Mario Bros)

T-Rex, short for "Tyrannosaurus rex", is an extinct dinosaur species in real life. Within the Super Mario franchise, the T-Rex is shown to be the ancestor of President Koopa in the 1993 Super Mario Bros. film. Members of this species notably appear in Super Mario Odyssey as enemies that can be...

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What about this is Toon Force? The T-Rex isn't bypassing the laws of physics to achieve a comedic feat here


This is ridiculous. Generating a loud sound enough to scare birds away is something any human can do. We don't even give animals like lions sound manipulation for having loud roars


No scan is provided for the T-Rex being superior in terms of lifting strength, so I think this should be changed to unknown.

Agree with all

 

[Hypertornado099]

Bump

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

I agree with both the debunk and its deletion.

 

[StrikerIsJustStriker]

Wouldn't say superior to Mario in ls, but it is comparable in every way due to size and the t-rex is a boss against Mario, so still Class Y LS. (Putting "Unknown" feels weird since it is like the user with "Unknown" LS never had any feats or was never comparable to someone)

 

[StrikerIsJustStriker]

The t-rex can roar that shook the camera, but otherwise should just be "Minor Sound Manipulation" (and no, humans can't do that if not loud enough lol)

I agree with Toon Force being discarded here.

 

[StrikerIsJustStriker]

I disagree, its a boss with notable feats

Agreed with this reply since the T-rex needs attention

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

The t-rex can roar that shook the camera, but otherwise should just be "Minor Sound Manipulation" (and no, humans can't do that if not loud enough lol)

I agree with Toon Force being discarded here.

Pseudo sound manip i guess?

 

[StrikerIsJustStriker]

Pseudo sound manip i guess?

Could work

 

[OrangeFR]

I think Minor sound manip is fine, but I feel like it is heavily implied that the T-Rex is physically superior to Mario so the lifting strength is fine. Remove Toon force tho.

 

[Hypertornado099]

Wouldn't say superior to Mario in ls, but it is comparable in every way due to size and the t-rex is a boss against Mario, so still Class Y LS. (Putting "Unknown" feels weird since it is like the user with "Unknown" LS never had any feats or was never comparable to someone)

Minor sound manipulation is too much, some animals can roar loudly too

I think Minor sound manip is fine, but I feel like it is heavily implied that the T-Rex is physically superior to Mario so the lifting strength is fine. Remove Toon force tho.

Being physically superior in striking strength doesn't make your lifting superior

 

[Armorchompy]

I agree with tornado. Being loud isn't sound manip, and being overall superior to someone isn't evidence you can grapple them, it's a bit of an arbitrary line but it is one we draw

 

[StrikerIsJustStriker]

Minor sound manipulation is too much, some animals can roar loudly too


Being physically superior in striking strength doesn't make your lifting superior

Name an animal that shook the camera by just roaring.

No one said Striking Strength makes Lifting Strength superior?

 

[Armorchompy]

Name an animal that shook the camera by just roaring.

Literally any animal if the developers want them to, given that the camera in a videogame is not an actual physical object that exists. Outside of Mario 64

No one said Striking Strength makes Lifting Strength superior?

Alright then, please explain your argument for why the T-Rex scales to Mario in LS.

 

[StrikerIsJustStriker]

Alright then, please explain your argument for why the T-Rex scales to Mario in LS.

Overall Size. I don't need other arguments to scale it to Mario in LS anyways since it is a dinosaur against a human or if a character is bigger than the other.

 

[StrikerIsJustStriker]

Literally any animal if the developers want them to, given that the camera in a videogame is not an actual physical object that exists. Outside of Mario 64

Whatever animals has the ability to do so is Pseudo Sound Mani and that is all (also yes, humans can have it too so idk why humans' Powers and Abilities is "None", meaning we can't spit, we can't hear, we can't smell, no "Average Human Physical Characteristics", no etc.)

 

[Hypertornado099]

Overall Size. I don't need other arguments to scale it to Mario in LS anyways since it is a dinosaur against a human or if a character is bigger than the other.

Mario's lifting strength is rated Class Y, which is enough to lift planets. Being a dinosaur isn't enough to warrant this

Whatever animals has the ability to do so is Pseudo Sound Mani and that is all (also yes, humans can have it too so idk why humans' Powers and Abilities is "None", meaning we can't spit, we can't hear, we can't smell, no "Average Human Physical Characteristics", no etc.)

Should humans have "pseudo water manipulation" for pissing then?

 

[Armorchompy]

Whatever animals has the ability to do so is Pseudo Sound Mani and that is all (also yes, humans can have it too so idk why humans' Powers and Abilities is "None", meaning we can't spit, we can't hear, we can't smell, no "Average Human Physical Characteristics", no etc.)

Because our wiki is meant to index extraordinary ability and whatever is human baseline is by necessity not extraordinary, and therefore not worth indexing.

 

[StrikerIsJustStriker]

Mario's lifting strength is rated Class Y, which is enough to lift planets. Being a dinosaur isn't enough to warrant this

And Mario runs away from the T-rex, meaning it is stronger than him. The only way to stop it is if the T-Rex gets hit into a wall by charging, then it can be knocked unconscious. Furthermore, it can destroy multiple rocks nearly as big as it, which Mario struggles to do such feat, and it also requires force to break through a wall. Since Mario can't break through them, the rocks can withstand Class Y and High-6-A attacks.

Should humans have "pseudo water manipulation" for pissing then?

If not, then we can't spit.

 

[StrikerIsJustStriker]

Because our wiki is meant to index extraordinary ability and whatever is human baseline is by necessity not extraordinary, and therefore not worth indexing.

Fair

 

[Hypertornado099]

Bump

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

You got two mod approvals, should be ok to apply.

 

[StrikerIsJustStriker]

You got two mod approvals, should be ok to apply.

And I proved the mods wrong anyways. Oh, and I only see one mod approved it (if the mod actually proved me wrong, which will never happen), but the admin never said anything to approve it anyways.

 

[AyOgUyS]

We rly having these types of arguments? Anyway I agree with everything.

 

[StrikerIsJustStriker]

We rly having these types of arguments? Anyway I agree with everything.

Justify why you agree, and yes, I will continue arguing until they disagree with this thread.

 

[StrikerIsJustStriker]

Gonna justify my reasons what I agree or what I disagree once again. (Since mods ignored my reasons without any debunks whatsoever lol)

What about this is Toon Force? The T-Rex isn't bypassing the laws of physics to achieve a comedic feat here

I'm sure your correct here. So I likely agree.

This is ridiculous. Generating a loud sound enough to scare birds away is something any human can do. We don't even give animals like lions sound manipulation for having loud roars

Pseudo-Sound Mani since no animals in real life can shake the camera by just roaring, but otherwise likely true.

No scan is provided for the T-Rex being superior in terms of lifting strength, so I think this should be changed to unknown.

Don't matter. Mario was unable to break through rocks which upscales them Class Y LS and High 6-A ranges and the T-rex broke through them. Not to mention, Mario has to keep running from the T-rex and must have the t-rex charge at the wall to make it unconscious, which will one shot Mario if charged against him. So I disagree with the T-rex having "Unknown" LS.

 

[Hypertornado099]

You got two mod approvals, should be ok to apply.

Alright