Protectors of a Grand Kingdom: Penny Polendina Vs. Queen Vacteria (Dragon Ball RWBY Vs. Veneficaverse), Part of the Tectonic Terrifiers Tournament

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Queen Vacteria

Have you thought about who you are, in a world like this? Are you really an all-mighty hero, or do even you have superiors? Do even the strong answer to another? Or is there one, the strongest, who stands above and answers to no one? The answer is obvious: I am Queen Vacteria. I am the...

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Penny Polendina (Dragon Ball RWBY)

Penny Polendina is a character who first appeared in the beacon arc. She was originally an android created by her father, Pietro Polendina, when he somehow gave her a part of his own Aura to grant her a soul. Penny was destroyed by her own weapons during her fight with Pyrrha Nikos. She returned...

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This will be Atlas Penny (Maiden Powers Restricted of course, all equipment) Vs. Full Power Queen Vacteria (Standard Equipment)...

Speed Equalized, Standard Battle Assumptions apply.

 

[Spinoirr]

It's a island level guy vs a Multi-Continent level+ character

Don't need to do math to tell this is a stomp

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

It's a island level guy vs a Multi-Continent level+ character

Don't need to do math to tell this is a stomp

Not so fast. I’ll use some info from the last match.

Vacteria is a speed based skillful combatant. possesses a good deal of powerful senses (good to dodge with, though also very helpful on offense as it's basically pseudo-precog) and a myriad of methods to attack using her wand. She can attack where you are going before you go there and dodge you the moment you move. She’s very adept at spamming her moves. She has a TON of summons to distract with. She has a few dura neg options via her wand.

Penny doesn’t resist sound manipulation either. If she plays her cards right Vacteria could certainly win this.

 

[Spinoirr]

How can she deal with Penny's skill?

As an android created by the Atlas Military, Penny is an overwhelmingly skilled fighter. During the Vytal Festival she effectively made it to the semifinals on her own despite the competitors being some of the most skilled fighters that the four Huntsmen Academies had to offer, with her other teammates only being there as stand-ins so she would have a team by the rules of the tournament. She is skilled enough to match Pyrrha Nikos in combat and even put her on the defensive and disarm her, with Penny only definitively losing the fight due to Emerald Sustrai using her Semblance to manipulate Pyrrha's already poor mental state into accidentally using her Semblance to dismember her.

After being reconstructed and upgraded in Atlas, Penny's skill capacity was further increased to the point that she could match Cinder Fall in combat alongside Winter Schnee, only being outmatched when Cinder utilized her Maiden powers, later beating Cinder in a one-on-one fight when both had their respective Maiden powers. Penny alongside Bann Belladonna also fought and outmatched four of the five Ace-Ops simultaneously, with them being forced to fall back at the end of their fight. In addition, despite having the Maiden powers for the shortest time out of any character, Penny had a near instant proficiency with them due to being an android, allowing her to learn how to use her powers more quickly than other Maidens and easily copying attacks she had seen from other Maidens like Cinder and Fria. Is capable of using multiple elemental attacks with her Maiden Powers all at once even minutes after becoming human, as her Elemetal Afteran Magic lets her do whatever she thinks she can do and each elemental ability requires a different thought, this means Penny can effectively multitask, something not not possible for the human brain.

Penny possesses a masterful level of skill in wielding her weapon of choice, Floating Array, a highly complex series of remotely controlled swords directed by communicating with each blade in order to manipulate them. She can manipulate each individual blade with just a thought or a wave of her hand, altering the configurations and formations of the blades at will to counteract incoming threats, easily utilizing it as a close, mid, and long range melee weapon and a directed energy weapon for overwhelming offensive purposes, as well as a shield and grappling cables to enhance her defense and mobility and thrusters to enhance her mobility and physical capabilities simultaneously. She can utilize multiple forms of Floating Array simultaneously, attacking with a mix of swords and lasers from multiple angles as a means of keeping an opponent constantly off balance, and can attack with enough precision as to cut a Bullhead in half with her lasers without harming any of the passengers.

Not to mention being comparable in skill to characters who are as skilled or more skilled then End of OG Dragon Ball Goku

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

How can she deal with Penny's skill?

As an android created by the Atlas Military, Penny is an overwhelmingly skilled fighter. During the Vytal Festival she effectively made it to the semifinals on her own despite the competitors being some of the most skilled fighters that the four Huntsmen Academies had to offer, with her other teammates only being there as stand-ins so she would have a team by the rules of the tournament. She is skilled enough to match Pyrrha Nikos in combat and even put her on the defensive and disarm her, with Penny only definitively losing the fight due to Emerald Sustrai using her Semblance to manipulate Pyrrha's already poor mental state into accidentally using her Semblance to dismember her.

After being reconstructed and upgraded in Atlas, Penny's skill capacity was further increased to the point that she could match Cinder Fall in combat alongside Winter Schnee, only being outmatched when Cinder utilized her Maiden powers, later beating Cinder in a one-on-one fight when both had their respective Maiden powers. Penny alongside Bann Belladonna also fought and outmatched four of the five Ace-Ops simultaneously, with them being forced to fall back at the end of their fight. In addition, despite having the Maiden powers for the shortest time out of any character, Penny had a near instant proficiency with them due to being an android, allowing her to learn how to use her powers more quickly than other Maidens and easily copying attacks she had seen from other Maidens like Cinder and Fria. Is capable of using multiple elemental attacks with her Maiden Powers all at once even minutes after becoming human, as her Elemetal Afteran Magic lets her do whatever she thinks she can do and each elemental ability requires a different thought, this means Penny can effectively multitask, something not not possible for the human brain.

Penny possesses a masterful level of skill in wielding her weapon of choice, Floating Array, a highly complex series of remotely controlled swords directed by communicating with each blade in order to manipulate them. She can manipulate each individual blade with just a thought or a wave of her hand, altering the configurations and formations of the blades at will to counteract incoming threats, easily utilizing it as a close, mid, and long range melee weapon and a directed energy weapon for overwhelming offensive purposes, as well as a shield and grappling cables to enhance her defense and mobility and thrusters to enhance her mobility and physical capabilities simultaneously. She can utilize multiple forms of Floating Array simultaneously, attacking with a mix of swords and lasers from multiple angles as a means of keeping an opponent constantly off balance, and can attack with enough precision as to cut a Bullhead in half with her lasers without harming any of the passengers.

Not to mention being comparable in skill to characters who are as skilled or more skilled then End of OG Dragon Ball Goku

Skill isn’t the end all be all of a debate. You’ve given me a lot of information here (much of which feels irrelevant really, like the maiden power stuff which is restricted here) but I’ll still formulate a response.

Vacteria herself is also a super skilled fighter. She fought Ako, a 99% cyborg who is an immensely capable and versatile fighter capable of swapping between a bunch of different modes. She even matched him when he combined with Hotaru, who is the prodigy of a master style martial art. The both of them combined are basically two masterclass fighters in one, and that’s what it took to match her on the ground.

The thing is that her skills are greatly assisted through her awesome senses. As stated before, it’s essentially pseudo precognitive stuff. She’s superior to Swarm, who could defend against an enemy without even knowing they were present, and she uses these to detect patterns in her opponents movements as well as assess their possible options. She’s really good at guessing what an enemy will do. This is how she can hit her opponent’s next area just as they start going there. It’s also a great way to dodge attacks. In terms of “multitasking” Vacteria could do the same though her senses and she’s successfully combined offense and defense simultaneously before.

As for the weapons, it doesn’t seem too unlike what she had to deal with when she fought Tactical Transformation Comet, so she ought be able to manage well enough. End of og db goku had impressive skill, but he was no master yet. Meanwhile, Vacteria successfully matched a near-master combined with an advanced cyborg built for the purpose of battle. Skill debates can be very taxing… overall I’d consider them of a similar level, I think.

 

[Rayfire]

So penny has her aura, which is going to be the biggest problem for vacteria considering she needs to hit it a lot of times iirc. Vacteria has danmaku and summons to help her out with that, though, and adding onto what vene said, penny lacks any sort of resistance sound manipulation, which the aura shouldn't block and can also be used to straight up incap penny temporarily, which no amount of skill will get her through.

• Queen Bee Supreme Buzz: Vacteria unleashes a buzzing sound so razing that her opponents struggle to function in any capacity while she is using it. It's perfect for forcing her enemy to open up and leave themselves wide open while she continues to attack. She needs to remain stationary while she wields the move, but the effects remain on her enemy for a short time after she stops the attack.

Supposedly, penny's main methods of attacking are through her ki blasts and swords, although vacteria has fought ako who has similair energy projection/blasts and also has much more potent danmaku.

Skill isn’t the end all be all of a debate. You’ve given me a lot of information here (much of which feels irrelevant really, like the maiden power stuff which is restricted here) but I’ll still formulate a response.

Vacteria herself is also a super skilled fighter. She fought Ako, a 99% cyborg who is an immensely capable and versatile fighter capable of swapping between a bunch of different modes. She even matched him when he combined with Hotaru, who is the prodigy of a master style martial art. The both of them combined are basically two masterclass fighters in one, and that’s what it took to match her on the ground.

The thing is that her skills are greatly assisted through her awesome senses. As stated before, it’s essentially pseudo precognitive stuff. She’s superior to Swarm, who could defend against an enemy without even knowing they were present, and she uses these to detect patterns in her opponents movements as well as assess their possible options. She’s really good at guessing what an enemy will do. This is how she can hit her opponent’s next area just as they start going there. It’s also a great way to dodge attacks. In terms of “multitasking” Vacteria could do the same though her senses and she’s successfully combined offense and defense simultaneously before.

As for the weapons, it doesn’t seem too unlike what she had to deal with when she fought Tactical Transformation Comet, so she ought be able to manage well enough. End of og db goku had impressive skill, but he was no master yet. Meanwhile, Vacteria successfully matched a near-master combined with an advanced cyborg built for the purpose of battle. Skill debates can be very taxing… overall I’d consider them of a similar level, I think.

I was about to say pretty much exactly this

 

[MintyBoi1]

Wouldn’t Vacteria’s buzzing get through aura? I don’t imagine it stops sound getting in, so Penny’s thoughts being disrupted could make killing her much easier

 

[Spinoirr]

Wouldn’t Vacteria’s buzzing get through aura? I don’t imagine it stops sound getting in, so Penny’s thoughts being disrupted could make killing her much easier

Nah Penny's aura is up subconsciously like it's passive

not to mention the ungodly amount of attacks she'd need to break her aura

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Nah Penny's aura is up subconsciously like it's passive

Does it have feats of blocking sound based stuff?

Sounds like a pretty unconventional thing. How would she hear anything outside if it blocked soundwaves?

 

[Spinoirr]

Basically do 10.36 Zettatons of TNT divided by her AP

Also no it hasn't blocked sound waves, although then again. Penny is not human, she's a Android with a human soul

 

[Rayfire]

Also no it hasn't blocked sound waves, although then again. Penny is not human, she's a Android with a human soul

Sound Manipulation (Her buzzing sound can negatively impact others by disrupting their ability to think. Vacteria's buzz in particular is damaging to her opponents brain, and it even works on machines such as Ako to completely disable them, but at a lesser effect can slow enemies overall speed and just interfere with decision making.)

 

[Spinoirr]

Sound Manipulation (Her buzzing sound can negatively impact others by disrupting their ability to think. Vacteria's buzz in particular is damaging to her opponents brain, and it even works on machines such as Ako to completely disable them, but at a lesser effect can slow enemies overall speed and just interfere with decision making.)

Huh, well then

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Basically do 10.36 Zettatons of TNT divided by her AP

Also no it hasn't blocked sound waves, although then again. Penny is not human, she's a Android with a human soul

Ako is essentially the same thing and it affected him the same. Hotaru as well, although she's much more like a Genos type of cyborg.

 

[Spinoirr]

What about Penny's Aura? And can't Penny just make a omnidirectional blast with her ki?

 

[Rayfire]

What about Penny's Aura? And can't Penny just make a omnidirectional blast with her ki?

Ako's cosmic bubble could engulf an entire city, so vacteria's dealt with attacks of that range before. In general she's dealt with a lot of AoE stuff in the past too, considering a lot of ako's arsenal consists of rockets and missiles.

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

What about Penny's Aura? And can't Penny just make a omnidirectional blast with her ki?

It's my understanding that the aura takes hits to destroy. In the actual RWBY, destroying an aura isn't that difficult. With the stat difference it will probably be hard tho.

Iirc, you always say that it takes a certain amount of hits to drop it. Well, Vacteria can manage that. She has numerous methods of quick strike attacks that build upon you FAST. Beams, spheres, Vacterian Spikes, and more utilizing her wand, claws, and stinger will amount to thousands of hits. She has experience with aoe stuff too as rayfire said. A blast like that is something she could handle, as long as she isn't nicked by it. But that's unlikely given her senses and speed.

 

[Spinoirr]

It's my understanding that the aura takes hits to destroy. In the actual RWBY, destroying an aura isn't that difficult. With the stat difference it will probably be hard tho.

Iirc, you always say that it takes a certain amount of hits to drop it. Well, Vacteria can manage that. She has numerous methods of quick strike attacks that build upon you FAST. Beams, spheres, Vacterian Spikes, and more utilizing her wand, claws, and stinger will amount to thousands of hits. She has experience with aoe stuff too as rayfire said. A blast like that is something she could handle, as long as she isn't nicked by it. But that's unlikely given her senses and speed.

This is Dragon Ball RWBY

"Aura functions as a forcefield with a cumulative durability, depicted as a 'health bar', and allows her to take dozens of hits from opponents as strong as herself without any significant injury. Aura's damage cap is 70 times, due to character's aura protecting them from 70 attacks, surviving multiple attacks from characters 4 to 10 times stronger than them, and even 50 times stronger than them"

Meaning to break her Aura she'd need her attack Potency and divide it by 10.36 Zettatons of TNT to get how much hits she's needs to break it

 

[FlipLaScript]

Even with everything Queen Vacteria has on her page, it still doesn't negate the fact that both Penny has a higher combat intelligence (It's not stated why on the page but just was on this thread) and it would only take 1 punch for Penny to absolutely flatten Vacteria...from what I've seen on this thread is the fact that the Queen's best option of attack is her sound manipulation, which is mostly just a form of confusion manipulation-

When I tried to plug in the numbers of how many attacks it would take for Queen Vacteria to dissipate Penny's aura the calculator literally just noped out on me...it's definitely more than a million and would take a LONG time to take down, even with the Queen's punches...despite her wider range of options I don't see a way that Penny doesn't land at least 1 hit :0

 

[Rayfire]

When I tried to plug in the numbers of how many attacks it would take for Queen Vacteria to dissipate Penny's aura the calculator literally just noped out on me...it's definitely more than a million and would take a LONG time to take down

10.36 Zettatons of TNT

Isn't this tier 5??

and it would only take 1 punch for Penny to absolutely flatten Vacteria...from what I've seen on this thread is the fact that the Queen's best option of attack is her sound manipulation, which is mostly just a form of confusion manipulation-

It would, but vacteria has extremely good skill & enhanced senses as vene describes, so taking her off-guard wouldn't be an option, and she has more than enough stamina to fight for as long as she needs to, given she's generally superior to ako who can fight for a whole day. Even if the fight is incredibly lengthy i doubt she wouldn't get through the aura eventually and avoid penny's attacks while doing so considering that surprising her would be extremely hard.

Long-term use of penny's aura is also detrimental to her stamina too, so she'd be at a disadvantage if the fight goes on for that long anyway.

Also, it's not just confusion (Which would also heavily impact penny's level of skill as is) She can also just outright incapacitate her if she wants to, at least temporarily.

• Queen Bee Supreme Buzz: Vacteria unleashes a buzzing sound so razing that her opponents struggle to function in any capacity while she is using it. It's perfect for forcing her enemy to open up and leave themselves wide open while she continues to attack. She needs to remain stationary while she wields the move, but the effects remain on her enemy for a short time after she stops the attack.

 

[FlipLaScript]

Even if the fight is incredibly lengthy i doubt she wouldn't get through the aura eventually and avoid penny's attacks while doing so considering that surprising her would be extremely hard.

It's not really surprising her, it's more just landing one hit...I'm not saying that she isn't a skillful fighter, but Penny has a higher listed Combat IQ, it may take a bit but it's likely that she would hit the Queen eventually (Not saying the sound manipulation wouldn't affect her, but it's more likely that penny lands a single hit than queen vacteria avoiding her attacks for a whole day)

Isn't this tier 5??

That's true, but even with baseline High 6-A it would still be at least a million :u

 

[Spinoirr]

Isn't this tier 5??

Aura works like a health bar Forcefield

It can take at least 70 hits from those comparable to them before it breaks

 

[Spinoirr]

Long-term use of penny's aura is also detrimental to her stamina too, so she'd be at a disadvantage if the fight goes on for that long anyway.

BTW this "Continual use of her Aura will cause it to decay to the point where she can be left open to more significant damage" just means if her Aura breaks she'll be weakened and given she'd need over a billion hits to break her Aura... yeah no

"Use of her aura" means if she keeps taking damage it will eventually break and leave her weakned from being tired. Given everyone can keep their Auras on all the time subconsciously completely fine

 

[Rayfire]

That's true

Then how come it's allowed here? It seems very odd

It's not really surprising her, it's more just landing one hit...I'm not saying that she isn't a skillful fighter, but Penny has a higher listed Combat IQ, it may take a bit but it's likely that she would hit the Queen eventually (Not saying the sound manipulation wouldn't affect her, but it's more likely that penny lands a single hit than queen vacteria avoiding her attacks for a whole day)

It's very unlikely to take that long. Vene says that vacteria's attacks can stack up to crazy amounts way before that, and vacteria's summons will only make that faster.

All of her battle iq feats are pretty much either just skill stuff or learning things quickly, though. Going beyond just their ratings, vacteria has much more clear-cut feats of strategy, planning, prediction, etc.

I'm not saying it's impossible for her to land a hit, but it would be a very big ask when there's lots of things your opp can do to hinder/distract you, can predict all your movements, and are just as if not more skilled than you. I doubt penny has faced anyone like vacteria before, hence her lack of resistances to a lot of her stuff

Vacteria can also blind penny if she wants to, if sound manipulation wasn't bad enough

 

[Spinoirr]

Then how come it's allowed here? It seems very odd

It's very unlikely to take that long. Vene says that vacteria's attacks can stack up to crazy amounts way before that, and vacteria's summons will only make that faster.

All of her battle iq feats are pretty much either just skill stuff or learning things quickly, though. Going beyond just their ratings, vacteria has much more clear-cut feats of strategy, planning, prediction, etc.

I'm not saying it's impossible for her to land a hit, but it would be a very big ask when there's lots of things your opp can do to hinder/distract you, can predict all your movements, and are just as if not more skilled than you. I doubt penny has faced anyone like vacteria before, hence her lack of resistances to a lot of her stuff

Vacteria can also blind penny if she wants to, if sound manipulation wasn't bad enough

I mean... Penny is connected to the internet via Arowfell (the cannon game)

Also Functioning on an AI, on top of another possible trait from Pietro, Penny is rather intelligent, noticing that Blake was a Faunus from their first meeting in "The Stray", something Team RWBY hadn't noticed in the months together. In "Strings", she explained the mechanics of Ruby's Petal Burst and how it could be used without the user herself being aware of it. Despite being untrained, Penny learned how to use her Maiden powers much quicker than others from observing trained ones like Cinder and Fria

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

This is Dragon Ball RWBY

"Aura functions as a forcefield with a cumulative durability, depicted as a 'health bar', and allows her to take dozens of hits from opponents as strong as herself without any significant injury. Aura's damage cap is 70 times, due to character's aura protecting them from 70 attacks, surviving multiple attacks from characters 4 to 10 times stronger than them, and even 50 times stronger than them"

Meaning to break her Aura she'd need her attack Potency and divide it by 10.36 Zettatons of TNT to get how much hits she's needs to break it

But it is based on RWBY...

I've always found the whole aura dynamic with dbrwby to be highly questionable. How is this aura stuff truly depicted in your canon? Do characters just routinely fly through attacks because it takes some arbitrary amount of hits to break the aura? How do characters interact with and react to the auras? What is the relationship of aura with durability negation?

Sound should still work. As I said, if she plays her cards right Vacteria can win. If the aura proves so troublesome, and the only method of winning is through Supreme Buzz over and over again until it's broken (making her desperate), then that will be done. Besides that it would be down to if Penny lands the winning shot beforehand. It's just very easy to get caught in a buzz loop due to the way it leaves you reeling even after it's finished. Sure it’s a long shot for vac, but it’s possible. Then again…

That's true, but even with baseline High 6-A it would still be at least a million :u

Then how come it's allowed here? It seems very odd

Yeah, 10.36 Zettatons of TNT is a tier 5 number. That goes into the Low 5-B range, actually... Way past High 6-A.

So this character penny should be low 5-B actually.

No way a Low 5-B got let in

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Despite being untrained, Penny learned how to use her Maiden powers much quicker than others from observing trained ones like Cinder and Fria

On this note, Vacteria has literally never trained before.

 

[FlipLaScript]

Yeah, 10.36 Zettatons of TNT is a tier 5 number. That goes into the Low 5-B range, actually... Way past High 6-A.

So this character penny should be low 5-B actually.

No way a Low 5-B got let in

The calc would be using the Tier 6-A baseline amount, but that would still be millions of times...plus her maiden powers are restricted here

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

The calc would be using the Tier 6-A baseline amount, but that would still be millions of times...plus her maiden powers are restricted here

Then why is it using that number? It's literally a Low 5-B value. I don't understand what you're telling me here.

 

[FlipLaScript]

I don't understand what you're telling me here.

Im not using the 10 zettaton number in the calc, but even with the baseline of 4.435 petatons the calculator still noped out on me...the number of attacks it would take to break her aura are still at least a million hits with the baseline High 6-A 4.435 Petatons replacing the 5-B of 10.36 Zettatons

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Im not using the 10 zettaton number in the calc, but even with the baseline of 4.435 petatons the calculator still noped out on me...the number of attacks it would take to break her aura are still at least a million hits with the baseline High 6-A 4.435 Petatons replacing the 5-B of 10.36 Zettatons

Why is it replacing it??

Spin used that value for a reason. I assume it is the legitimate number which applies to penny. And if it is, she is Low 5-B.

At the very least she is using a Low 5-B barrier. In which case, even if it does go down to some amount of tier 6 attacks, is still widely unfair to the other completion. At least in the other unfair matches it wasn’t because they could just ‘nope’ out of any damage unless they are hit a billion or so times.

You shouldn’t have to hit your opponent millions times to even beginning damaging them. Seriously, think about how unrealistic that is for a fight, even between two anime-esque characters. Especially when we are dealing with skillful combatants like penny and Vacteria.

 

[FlipLaScript]

You shouldn’t have to hit your opponent millions times to even beginning damaging them. Seriously, think about how unrealistic that is for a fight, even between two anime-esque characters. Especially when we are dealing with skillful combatants like penny and Vacteria.

I realized my mistake in the beginning rounds of the tournament that Tiers with more than 4 sub-tiers shouldn't have a tournament where all powers from their tier are allowed...Im still working on the best way to run tournaments, and it's getting better, as the next one's going to have rules on what's OP and will be limited to 1 tier...

If you want a better matchup, I put up a suggestion for Queen Vacteria in the Fair Fights section :3

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

I realized my mistake in the beginning rounds of the tournament that Tiers with more than 4 sub-tiers shouldn't have a tournament where all powers from their tier are allowed...Im still working on the best way to run tournaments, and it's getting better, as the next one's going to have rules on what's OP and will be limited to 1 tier...

If you want a better matchup, I put up a suggestion for Queen Vacteria in the Fair Fights section :3

So you’re just gonna let this fly? Bruh…

What’s the point of keeping my characters in this tourney if they’ll have to go through someone they gotta hit a million+ times to even START damaging? Again, based on all the information available, this is an ability capable of taking tier 5 attacks.

In an explicitly tier 6 only tourney.

It doesn’t matter that a tier 6 can break it by hitting it enough. It’s the sheer amount of hits that it would take. The fact that a 6-C could technically break it (only after a BILLION landed hits) doesn’t excuse it from being inherently rule breaking. Again, this is extraordinarily unrealistic.

This is why cross tier tourney’s are generally not a good idea. You almost always get drama like this. This would probably be permissible in an High 6-A tourney where there’s a real chance at getting past the aura, but this is a tourney for any tier 6’s.

I guess Vacteria loses this one. Although in my opinion this character shouldn’t have been allowed to participate anyway.

 

[Spinoirr]

But it is based on RWBY...

I've always found the whole aura dynamic with dbrwby to be highly questionable. How is this aura stuff truly depicted in your canon? Do characters just routinely fly through attacks because it takes some arbitrary amount of hits to break the aura? How do characters interact with and react to the auras? What is the relationship of aura with durability negation?

I mean characters can survive multiple attacks from Cinder, who's strong as post zenki Bann with orange Amp, aka strong as someone who is stronger then them + with a four times Amp using orange Amp

Characters can survive multiple attacks from the Furious Cat, who scales to wrathful Bann, again surviving multiple attacks from a character who's above ten times stronger than them (as wrathful is a 10 times multiplier)

Again Vegeta and Trunks's aura needed to hits from Holly to break, base Holly is as strong as ssj Vegeta and Ssj Trunks, Holly goes super saiyan and breaks their Aura in two blows (Using a 50 times boost)

 

[MintyBoi1]

I mean characters can survive multiple attacks from Cinder, who's strong as post zenki Bann with orange Amp, aka strong as someone who is stronger then them + with a four times Amp using orange Amp

Characters can survive multiple attacks from the Furious Cat, who scales to wrathful Bann, again surviving multiple attacks from a character who's above ten times stronger than them (as wrathful is a 10 times multiplier)

Again Vegeta and Trunks's aura needed to hits from Holly to break, base Holly is as strong as ssj Vegeta and Ssj Trunks, Holly goes super saiyan and breaks their Aura in two blows (Using a 50 times boost)

When you say survive, do you mean they outright tanked them or that they actually reacted? And how big was the AP gap there. Iirc the justification for aura taking 70 hits to break is that happening on one occasion. But can that really be generalized to apply to every character with aura in every matchup?

 

[Spinoirr]

When you say survive, do you mean they outright tanked them or that they actually reacted? And how big was the AP gap there. Iirc the justification for aura taking 70 hits to break is that happening on one occasion. But can that really be generalized to apply to every character with aura in every matchup?

Yeah, I mean they tanked it (felt pain sure) but their Aura didn't break meaning their Aura tanked and absorbed those stat gap attacks and multiple of them at that

The stat gap is this
Four times:
team RWBY and anyone on par with them (team rwby without aura could survive a blast from maiden cinder but were blasted into the void despite being able to fly via ki) < Bann (pre zenki) < ironwood < Bann (post zenki: 14.8 Exatons, Bann is 4 times weaker then cinder without his semblance) <<< Ozpin (baseline 59.2 Exatons) < Fall Madien Cinder Fall (killed ozpin through his force field) ~ post zenki Orange amp bann (4 times stronger then 14.8 Exatons, fought on par with Cinder)

Ten times:
team RWBY and anyone on par with them (team rwby without aura could survive a blast from maiden cinder but were blasted into the void despite being able to fly via ki) < Bann (pre zenki), Base Penny < ironwood < Bann (post zenki: 14.8 Exatons, Bann is 4 times weaker then cinder without his semblance), Neo (post semblance evolution) < Base Bann and Base Penny (ever after, 1 year older: base Bann could fight off all 7 of Neo's clones and even one shot a clone of himself as strong as he was a year ago, Base Penny trained with Bann and is as strong as him) <<<< Wrathful Bann (148 Exatons) ~ Curious Cat buff form (pushed back Wrathful Bann) ~ Ascended Ruby

50 times:
Base Holly ~ SSJ Vegeta and Trunks <<<< Super Saiyan Holly

Remember aura let's these characters at the bottom of these scaling to survive multiple of these attacks, the fact this is a general thing I put into the series based on how I view aura + to be used to explain how they survive these stat gaps (cough mostly via saiyans' cough)

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

I mean characters can survive multiple attacks from Cinder, who's strong as post zenki Bann with orange Amp, aka strong as someone who is stronger then them + with a four times Amp using orange Amp

Characters can survive multiple attacks from the Furious Cat, who scales to wrathful Bann, again surviving multiple attacks from a character who's above ten times stronger than them (as wrathful is a 10 times multiplier)

Again Vegeta and Trunks's aura needed to hits from Holly to break, base Holly is as strong as ssj Vegeta and Ssj Trunks, Holly goes super saiyan and breaks their Aura in two blows (Using a 50 times boost)

That's not really what I meant by any of those questions. It's not about the fights, it's about how the characters talk about them and react to them. I struggle to see how these aura's play out in your story based on the way you always talk about them. They should play out the same way in vs threads. And again in the actual RWBY they are not even a fraction as potent as you tend to portray.

Also, I need you to confirm for me now whether or not Penny's aura blocks tier 5 stuff. Because the zettaton value you gave is Low 5-B. Kinda goes against the core premise of a tier 6 only tournament.

 

[Spinoirr]

That's not really what I meant by any of those questions. It's not about the fights, it's about how the characters talk about them and react to them. I struggle to see how these aura's play out in your story based on the way you always talk about them. They should play out the same way in vs threads. And again in the actual RWBY they are not even a fraction as potent as you tend to portray.

Also, I need you to confirm for me now whether or not Penny's aura blocks tier 5 stuff. Because the zettaton value you gave is Low 5-B. Kinda goes against the core premise of a tier 6 only tournament.

Yeah it blows Tier 5, once before it breaks

Remember it's Like a health bar, taking 70 comparable hits to her AP before it breaks

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

That's not really what I meant by any of those questions. It's not about the fights, it's about how the characters talk about them and react to them. I struggle to see how these aura's play out in your story based on the way you always talk about them. They should play out the same way in vs threads. And again in the actual RWBY they are not even a fraction as potent as you tend to portray.

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[Spinoirr]

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I mean this is how Aura works in my AU man

Like I literally showed above multiple feats for characters surviving multiple four, ten, and even two 50 times attacks because their Aura absorbed the damage for them even if they still feel pain through it

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

I mean this is how Aura works in my AU man

Like I literally showed above multiple feats for characters surviving multiple four, ten, and even two 50 times attacks because their Aura absorbed the damage for them even if they still feel pain through it

Bro, I don't wanna know about the fighting. I said this already.

Just tell me how the characters talk about them and react to them. Do you have characters saying "it's over! You'll need to hit me a bazzilion times to break my aura!" or what? The way you use them sounds unrealistic to a story setting. You are talking about them as if they are a game mechanic.