Arifureta: 5D/Low 1-C (❌)

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

I don't really take the transcend space and time statement seriously; the main arguments are encompassment and it being infinite. Anyway, I'm not sure, and am neutral atm. I swear we just had a thread talking about this.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

I don't really take the transcend space and time statement seriously; the main arguments are encompassment and it being infinite.

And separating the realms and could be used to time/realm travel

Anyway, I'm not sure, and am neutral atm. I swear we just had a thread talking about this.

Ok

 

[Everything12]

Put me down for Disagree, I'm not seeing it either.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Put me down for Disagree, I'm not seeing it either.

Disagree on 5D or L1-C ?

 

[Everything12]

Yes.

 

[Community_Gamer]

Yes.

Lmao.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I'm not seeing this as an upgrade.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

I'm not seeing this as an upgrade.

Could you be specific. What's the problem ?

Separating the realms mean it's the 5th dimension and being infinitly bigger than the realm while encompasing them is enough for Low1-C according to the wiki.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Could you be specific

Separating the realms mean it's the 5th dimension and being infinitly bigger than the realm while encompasiing them is enough for Low1-C.

You could literally apply this logic to any infinite sized container for any universe containing or even multiverse containing space and yet it wouldn't apply. You need actual statements on how it dwarfs all else to an infinite degree.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

You need actual statements on how it dwarfs all else to an infinite degree.

That's literally what it means.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

That's literally what it means.

That's your take on it at least.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

That's your take on it at least.

Yes, as the person who read +500Ch and has a deep knowledge on the verse.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

There's no clear evidence for Low 1-C. The vast sea of dimensions can be 2-A.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

There's no clear evidence for Low 1-C. The vast sea of dimensions can be 2-A.

Can you clarify on it ?

Here are the wiki requirements:

No, the default assumption is that this is not the case. "Bigger" could mean having more 2-A structures and, as explained in greater detail previously, having more 2-A structures, or even infinitely many 2-A structures, unless uncountably infinitely many, won't be above a single 2-A structure in size. This is due to these structures actually having the same size as a baseline 2-A structure. It is, however, possible to at least achieve greater than baseline 2-A power by upscaling from other characters who've performed 2-A feats or of the feats themselves, rather than by affecting 2-A structures containing other 2-A structures. However, if "bigger" is indicated to mean a size difference that makes the structure dimensionally superior to a 2-A structure, the structure qualifies for Low 1-C unless the fiction specifies otherwise.

The SOD is infinitly bigger than the realms(nine 2-A)

To elaborate, a structure larger than 2-A meets the requirements for dimensional superiority over them if it either explicitly mentions an uncountably infinite number of universes or has portrayals/statements of being larger than 2-A structures to the point that even infinite multipliers on top of the size of that structure are of no relevance to it. Multiversal structures past Low 2-C frequently have a distance of unknown length along a 5th dimensional axis separating them. That isn't automatically Low 1-C, as for Low 1-C the distance must be known to be of non-insignificant size.

The SOD separate the realm through the intervals meaning it is the 5th dimension. With the interval being finite and SOD infinite.

If you disagree with L1-C, what about 5D ?

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

Can you clarify on it ?

Here are the wiki requirements:

The SOD is infinitly bigger than the realms(nine 2-A)

Is there a direct statement of this? Also, it requires an uncountable infinity so you would have to hone in on that.

The SOD separate the realm through the intervals meaning it is the 5th dimension. With the interval being finite and SOD infinite.

That's a baseless statement and does not meet the requirement.

If you disagree with L1-C, what about 5D ?

Low 1-C is 5D, spatially speaking.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Is there a direct statement of this?

Yes

「I’ll turn this thing into a luxury cruise ship. It won’t be a sad battleship anymore. But to be the world’s greatest passenger ship to go to adventure through the endless space toward the unknown worlds. A ship that can bring anyone and anything on board of it.」Ch 381

It was stated to be an endless space, but another translation for it was "infinite universe".

Also, it requires an uncountable infinity so you would have to hone in on that.

That's one of the many requirements to qualify, but proving one of them is enough to my knowledge.

No, the default assumption is that this is not the case. "Bigger" could mean having more 2-A structures and, as explained in greater detail previously, having more 2-A structures, or even infinitely many 2-A structures, unless uncountably infinitely many, won't be above a single 2-A structure in size. This is due to these structures actually having the same size as a baseline 2-A structure. It is, however, possible to at least achieve greater than baseline 2-A power by upscaling from other characters who've performed 2-A feats or of the feats themselves, rather than by affecting 2-A structures containing other 2-A structures.

However, if "bigger" is indicated to mean a size difference that makes the structure dimensionally superior to a 2-A structure, the structure qualifies for Low 1-C unless the fiction specifies otherwise.

To elaborate, a structure larger than 2-A meets the requirements for dimensional superiority over them if it either explicitly mentions an uncountably infinite number of universes or has portrayals/statements of being larger than 2-A structures to the point that even infinite multipliers on top of the size of that structure are of no relevance to it. Multiversal structures past Low 2-C frequently have a distance of unknown length along a 5th dimensional axis separating them. That isn't automatically Low 1-C, as for Low 1-C the distance must be known to be of non-insignificant size.

It's infinitly bigger and separate the realms.

That's a baseless statement and does not meet the requirement.

Just read the OP

It's what separate the realms and that alone is 5D.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

It was stated to be an endless space, but another translation for it was "infinite universe".

Those things by themselves merit no meaning. If there are an infinity of Universe and assuming they're 4-D then that's baseline 2-A.

That's one of the many requirements to qualify, but proving one of them is enough to my knowledge.

It's infinitly bigger and separate the realms.

The requirement is telling us that infinity x infinity of a 2-A space is not enough. That's simply more 2-A space, but it must transcend that notion in which the “size” of a 2-A space is non-existent hence why even infinity multiplicity of 2-A space will always be 2-A since that's adding the same dimensional space of infinity with another. It requires an uncountable amounts of infinity or something to be dimensionally superior.

Your example falls in neither category. Since going through an endless space toward unknown worlds isn't a dimensional jump and this is especially the case if all the universes are jumbled up in that sea of dimension.

Just read the OP

It's what separate the realms and that alone is 5D.

Separating them and separating things by a jump in dimensionality are two different things.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Those things by themselves merit no meaning. If there are an infinity of Universe and assuming they're 4-D then that's baseline 2-A.

Never said that.

The 9 realms are 2-A each while being encompassed and separated by the infinitly bigger space known as Sea Of Dimension.

The requirement is telling us that infinity x infinity of a 2-A space is not enough. That's simply more 2-A space, but it must transcend that notion in which the “size” of a 2-A space is non-existent hence why even infinity multiplicity of 2-A space will always be 2-A since that's adding the same dimensional space of infinity with another. It requires an uncountable amounts of infinity or something to be dimensionally superior.

MAYBE YOU MISSED "ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS".

There is other ways to prove it without the timelines thing:
1)the space being bigger than 2-A

2)separate 4D structures

Your example falls in neither category. Since going through an endless space toward unknown worlds isn't a dimensional jump and this is especially the case if all the universes are jumbled up in that sea of dimension.

WUT ?

This alone prove you haven't read the OP. The section of SOD that separate the realms is finite.

Separating them and separating things by a jump in dimensionality are two different things.

Again WUT ?

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

The 9 realms are 2-A each while being encompassed and separated by the infinitly bigger space known as Sea Of Dimension.

You're not making a stronger argument I hope you know that.

MAYBE YOU MISSED "ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS".

There is other ways to prove it without the timelines thing:
1)the space being bigger than 2-A

2)separate 4D structures

More so that the evidence requires dimensional superiority.

WUT ?

This alone prove you haven't read the OP. The section of SOD that separate the realms is finite.

Again WUT ?

Yeah, all of them occupy the same dimensional space. It doesn't matter what encompasses what since that does not merit any tier. The separation being finite doesn't answer any superiority of dimensionality since encompassing that finite space would also inquire whatever encompasses is finite as well. You're arguing with yourself for that point so the argument you presented isn't an argument at all.

 

[Noneless21]

This thread was rejected by multiple staffs and other users already, you should stop before you embarrass yourself

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

"CAN'T STOP WON'T STOP BAD BOY 4 LIFE"

 

[Noneless21]

You know stonewalling is a reportable offense right?

Also, cringe

 

[PrinceofPein]

I read it and this is simply at most 2-A no solid cause for low 1-C

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

I read it and this is simply at most 2-A no solid cause for low 1-C

Why doesn't it qualify ?

Encompassing multiple 2-A structures and separating them while being infinitly bigger seems the standars for L1-C.


What about 5D for the interval ?

Multiversal structures past Low 2-C frequently have a distance of unknown length along a 5th dimensional axis separating them. That isn't automatically Low 1-C, as for Low 1-C the distance must be known to be of non-insignificant size.

Accroding to the wiki any space that separate 4D universes is the 5th dimension.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Just give up bro, this thread is already rejected by 3 staffs.