Monarch VS V1 (ULTRAKILL) NVM IT'S STOMP

[Lort15]

- Both at their High 7-C key

• Speed is equalized
• Monarch key is being used for Hawkmoth
• 20m from each other.
• SBA
• Both has prior knowledge about the AP gap
• Rabbit miraculous is restricted from Monarch

Monarch	151.025 Kilotons
V1 (ULTRAKILL)	428.89 Kilotons

 

[Arkansalter2]

coin ping

 

[Lort15]

coin ping

dawg bro spawned when i just released the match

 

[Arkansalter2]

Alright to get the ball rolling... coins.

 

[Jerry59]

I don't have the strongest grasp on Hawk aye, soo. How does his paralysis work exactly? Can he transmute V1, BFR him constantly, and simply block any attacks with forcefield ?

 

[Lort15]

Anyway Monarch has the rabbit miraculous as standard equipment he can do time travel, can use venom to paralyze V1, can use BFR via rabbit Miraculous, horse miraculous, could Grant any power in the miraculous verse with rooster miraculous

 

[Lort15]

I don't have the strongest grasp on Hawk aye, soo. How does his paralysis work exactly? Can he transmute V1, BFR him constantly, and simply block any incoming attack with forcefield ?

Touch based, uh he can transmutate his power with monkey miraculous so basically power modification+ transmutation and yes Monarch can BFR him with horse or rabbit miraculous, with horse miraculous it woild be very much faster cuz it's Via amps kinda horse miraculous attack speed is MFTL+ and yes he has forcefield creation with turtle miraculous but he can simply do this too

 

[Lort15]

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[Arkansalter2]

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Bro is NOT ready for Jerry's scans.

 

[Lort15]

Bro is NOT ready for Jerry's scans.

invulnurability go brr

 

[Jerry59]

Touch based, uh he can transmutate his power with monkey miraculous so basically power modification+ transmutation and yes Monarch can BFR him with horse or rabbit miraculous, with horse miraculous it woild be very much faster cuz it's Via amps kinda horse miraculous attack speed is MFTL+ and yes he has forcefield creation with turtle miraculous but he can simply do this too

Ah, so he has to touch in order to transmute and modify, while his BFR has mftl+ attack speed- am I reading that correctly? I want to know more about how the BFR works here because if V1 can't return after being literally sent to another age, then nothing is really going to help him here, even with the AP gap

 

[Jerry59]

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V1 FRA

 

[Lort15]

Ah, so he has to touch in order to transmute and modify, while his BFR has mftl+ attack speed- am I reading that correctly? I want to know more about how the BFR works here because if V1 can't return after being literally sent to another age, then nothing is really going to help him here, even with the AP gap

yes, MFTL+ speed is only for horse miraculous's BFR not for rabbit's, rabbit's BFR works like that horse miraculous BFR works like that

 

[Lort15]

the scan has no context
V1 FRA

i mean that was for V1's attacks ngl not for BFR

 

[Jerry59]

yes, MFTL+ speed is only for horse miraculous's BFR not for rabbit's, rabbit's BFR works like that horse miraculous BFR works like that

Uhh well idk then. Miraculous BFR at least seems to require an action, so V1 can aim-dodge it pretty easily, he's really good at that. But Rabbit's BFR doesn't i guess?

 

[Lort15]

Uhh well idk then. Miraculous BFR at least seems to require an action, so V1 can aim-dodge it pretty easily, he's really good at that. But Rabbit's BFR doesn't i guess?

he won't be able to react to that because of MFTL+ attack speed i guess and yes you can open the portal wherever you want with Rabbit miraculous it is not like Horse

 

[Jerry59]

he won't be able to react do that because of MFTL+ attack speed i guess and yes you can open the portal wherever you want with Rabbit miraculous it is not like Horse

I mean, he can aim-dodge Horse BFR, dodge it before Hawk throw BFR at his face, or whatever I should call that. And aye I think V1 has no chance then lol, there's no counter against Rabbit's miraculous.

 

[Lort15]

I mean, he can aim-dodge horse BFR, dodge it before they throw BFR at his face, or whatever I should call it. And aye I think V1 has no chance then lol, there's no counter against Rabbit's miraculous.

i mean even Cat Noir wasn't able to dodge it but okay, should i restrict it then? for a fair fight (he can also do time travel with rabbit miraculous)

 

[Jerry59]

i mean Cat Noir even wasn't able to dodge it

I dunno about Cat Noir, but V1 deals with attacks that outright blitz his perception (including miniguns and sniper with high precision) almost every single time. Evading these is like his daily basis lol bro skillwank is just that

should i restrict it then? for a fair fight (he can also do time travel with rabbit miraculous)

They can be restricted? Sure then

 

[Lort15]

I dunno about Cat Noir, but V1 deals with attacks that outright blitz his perception (including miniguns and sniper with high precision) almost every single time. Evading these is like his daily basis lol

it's same for Cat Noir maybe he got him offguard that's why

They can be restricted? Sure then

yes they are equipments they can be restricted

 

[Lort15]

I dunno about Cat Noir, but V1 deals with attacks that outright blitz his perception (including miniguns and sniper with high precision) almost every single time. Evading these is like his daily basis lol bro skillwank is just that

They can be restricted? Sure then

Done, could you tell me V1's wincons by any chance?

 

[Jerry59]

it's same for Cat Noir maybe he got him offguard that's why

Aye he got caught off guard it seems, literally jumped away from it after knowing that too

yes they are equipments they can be restricted

I mean, they are standard equipment, aren't they? You can't restrict that, iirc

 

[Lort15]

I mean, they are standard equipment, aren't they? You can't restrict that, iirc

Normally yes but Monarch only had rabbit miraculous for one episode after that one episode he only had other miraculouses but rabbit, so i'm using monarch 2.0 key not 1 anymore also i see others restricting some of ben tennyson's aliens such as alien x etc... they are also standart things that ben have

 

[Arkansalter2]

ben tennyson's aliens such as alien x

Heres the thing. If it buffs the user an entire tier, then it can be restricted. Otherwise, standard equipment can't be restricted like the miraculouses, nor powers can be restricted as well (except possibly powers).

 

[Lort15]

Heres the thing. If it buffs the user an entire tier, then it can be restricted. Otherwise, standard equipment can't be restricted like the miraculouses, nor powers can be restricted as well (except possibly powers).

i see but my other point stands still i'm using Monarch 2.0 who doesn't have bunny miraculous

 

[Arkansalter2]

Alrighty. I don't really see a seperate tabber for Monarch 2.0 sooo uhh...

 

[Lort15]

Alrighty. I don't really see a seperate tabber for Monarch 2.0 sooo uhh...

check this crt it was accepted in here but i shortoned it because of someone's suggestion https://vsbattles.com/threads/miraculous-ladybug-and-cat-noir-crt-part-1.176291/

 

[Jerry59]

Yeah uhm, I still don't really get what key Monarch 2.0 is yet, but if Rabbit miraculous can be restricted then sure sure.

So what is the guy's fm?

 

[Lort15]

Yeah uhm, I still don't really get what key Monarch 2.0 is yet, but if Rabbit miraculous can be restricted then sure sure.

So what is the guy's fm?

Well They both have prior knowledge about AP GAP so Monarch could try invisibility+multiplication+venom he has done that 2-3 times before

 

[Lort15]

He can also akumatize V1 + Monarch can use ınvulnurability to make himself invulnurable to some of V1's abilities because ınvulnurability makes Monarch invulnurable to all miraculous abilities

 

[Jerry59]

Well They both have prior knowledge about AP GAP so Monarch could try invisibility+multiplication+venom he has done that 2-3 times before

He can also akumatize V1 + Monarch can use ınvulnurability to make himself invulnurable to some of V1's abilities because ınvulnurability makes Monarch invulnurable to all miraculous abilities

Meh, not sure how Paralysis Inducement would even work on a robot so pass (Kyoichiro vs Binah paralysis moment all over again)

How long will the invisibility last? Either way, if V1 sees his opponent become [title card]- he won't just stand there, he'll likely try to keep his distance. V1 has a lot of mobility options that heavily outmaneuver Monarch, such as rocket riding or just blasting himself into the sky or something. He can also create nail or saw traps to prevent Hawk from getting close while invinsible, as well as conduct electricity to tag Monarch with coins and rockets if he tries to get close. Worth noting is that V1 is unaffected by a huge, constant electricity wall but still takes damage from his own electric weapons, so they could very well harm Monarch even with his resistance.

Another way is that V1 can shoot gasoline into the sky, around, and everywhere, oiling up Monarch to make him visible.

I should have asked this along with the transmutation thing, but Akumatization seems to require physical contact and also takes time(?). That almost impossible for Monarch to pull off, considering how much more mobile V1 is. Invulnerability shouldn't work since the user isn't invulnerable to physical attacks. And by 'physical' i'm quite certain they are not include bullet flakes, bolts of electricity beams with actual force, damaging melee shockwaves yadda yadda

 

[Lort15]

Meh, not sure how Paralysis Inducement would even work on a robot so pass (Kyoichiro vs Binah paralysis moment all over again)

its magic based it stops the oppent's all actions like they are frozen if he has resistance to that that is a different thing

How long will the invisibility last?

as long as he wants he doesn't have a time limit

Either way, if V1 sees his opponent become [title card]- he won't just stand there, he'll likely try to keep his distance. V1 has a lot of mobility options that heavily outmaneuver Monarch, such as instarocket riding or just blasting himself into the sky or something. He can also create a nail or saw trap, as well as conduct electricity to tag Monarch

electricity won't work because Monarch is invulnurable to all miraculous powers via OX miraculous which includes stormy weather, stormy weather is a supervillain who could manipulate elements such as electricity, wind etc... yes he would try to keep his distance but if he doesn't know where will the attack come it wouldn't really do much and Monarch will duplicate himself with Multiplication V1 will have a hard time to recognize where the attack will come + all clones are invisibile if V1 manage to hit a clone somehow the other one will paralyze him if paralyzation doesn't work he can pull up something different

I should have asked this along with the transmutation thing, but Akumatization seems to require physical contact and also takes time(?). That almost impossible for Monarch to pull off, considering how much more mobile V1 is.

Check this for transmutation, monkey miraculous works like that (check notable attack techniques), he has an extra akuma in his cane already akumatized most of time so he doesn't need to activate his power, for the akuma if V1 manage to hit akuma he will get akumatized sure he can dodge too

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Can someone summarise for me.
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[Lort15]

Can someone summarise for me.
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well nothing much rn we are just discussing about wincons, i've said Monarch would start with Multiplication+Invisibility+Venom i've also said Monarch has invulnurability to all miraculous powers in verse so this could counter some of V1's abilities such as electricity

 

[Jerry59]

its magic based it stops the oppent's all actions like they are frozen if he has resistance to that that is a different thing

Alright then, so the moment V1 gets touched, it's pretty much over.

electricity won't work because Monarch is invulnurable to all miraculous powers via OX miraculous which includes stormy weather, stormy weather is a supervillain who could manipulate elements such as electricity, wind etc... yes he would try to keep his distance but if he doesn't know where will the attack come it wouldn't really do much and Monarch will duplicate himself with Multiplication V1 will have a hard time to recognize where the attack will come + all clones are invisibile if V1 manage to hit a clone somehow the other one will paralyze him if paralyzation doesn't work he can pull up something different

Again, V1 can spray oil around to make Monarch visible (a typical trick for dealing with invisibility I guess even though it sounds stupid as hell). Once V1 knows Monarch and his clones' exact positions, he can take them out pretty quickly with 2-3 headshots (that’s almost always the case, given his aiming feats, he’s pulled off similar shots pretty much in the dark where he couldn't properly see his enemies, and even without directly looking at them) since his weapons upscale high enough to turn enemies tougher than him into puddles extremely quick, Monarch wouldn't last long once spotted. Of course, V1 won’t know where Monarch is at first, but considering how much he's constantly strafing around both on land and in the air like an addict, I don’t see why Monarch would be able to tag him that easily before becoming visible.

Check this for transmutation, monkey miraculous works like that (check notable attack techniques), he has an extra akuma in his cane already akumatized most of time so he doesn't need to activate his power, for the akuma if V1 manage to hit akuma he will get akumatized sure he can dodge too

Ehhh so the Monkey King guy throws a frog, and his transmutation works? And Monarch has butterflies that inflict Akumatization on contact- I mean, V1 has dodged stuff that's way faster and far more numerous. He can also aim-dodge and parry V2's revolver shots, which are the same type as his own, meaning they can blitz both of them and are Small Size Type 3 in size (not saying he'd try to punch the butterflies and get screwed over, he could just evade, pulverize them with shockwaves or uhhh shoot them)

 

[Jerry59]

Can someone summarise for me.
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"Can he take 5 invinsible guys at once" tag: robot

 

[Lort15]

Alright then, so the moment V1 gets touched, it's pretty much over.

i suppose.

Again, V1 can spray oil around to make Monarch visible (a typical trick for dealing with invisibility I guess even though it sounds stupid as hell).

yes that could work against invisibility

Once V1 knows Monarch and his clones' exact positions, he can take them out pretty quickly with just 2-3 headshots.

he can use Shell-ter to tank attacks Shell-ter is able to tank multiple hits from Hawkmoth and Mayura

That’s almost always the case, given his aiming feats, he’s pulled off similar shots pretty much in the dark where he couldn't properly see his enemies, and even without directly looking at them) and since his weapons upscale high enough to turn enemies tougher than him into puddles extremely quick, Monarch wouldn't last long once spotted. Of course, V1 won’t know where Monarch is at first, but considering how much he's constantly strafing around both on land and in the air like an addict, I don’t see why Monarch would be able to tag him that easily before becoming visible.

well its really hard to say if he do that oil trick this also might take time Monarch could use voyage to close distance so i'm not sure if this work

Ehhh so the Monkey King guy throws a frog, and his transmutation works?

yes if the toy touches to V1 his powers will get nullified,modified and transmutated basically he won't be able to control his powers also he can throw the toy to V1 while he is invisible

And Monarch has butterflies that inflict Akumatization on contact- I mean, V1 has dodged stuff that's way faster and far more numerous.

yes but V1 doesn't have knowledge about akuma's powers so he might wanna hit it other than just dodging, akuma isn't pretty fast so he wouldn't want to dodge it also the akuma would follow him

He can also aim-dodge and parry V2's revolver shots, which are the same type as his own, meaning they can blitz both of them and are Small Size Type 3 in size (not saying he'd try to punch the butterflies and get screwed over, he could just pulverize them with shockwaves or uhhh shoot them)

if he shoot the butterfly that's fine if he touchs to butterfly even if he doesn't accept he will get paralyzed for a few mins so that would give a big advantage to Monarch

 

[Jerry59]

he can use Shell-ter to tank attacks Shell-ter is able to tank multiple hits from Hawkmoth and Mayura

How strong are they? Because V1's arsenal upscales from a value that's already 2.83x stronger than him. These weapons can kill opponents comparable to or stronger than V1 really fast, and they aim for the head or other vital points. If the shots land (which is very likely considering they can blitz Monarch and V1 can ricochet them in patterns he wants) they’ll be fatal.

well its really hard to say if he do that oil trick this also might take time Monarch could use voyage to close distance so i'm not sure if this work

It doesn’t take that long, and he can also just spray the ground to see Monarch’s steps on it. This also makes using voyage to close the distance a bad idea since V1 fights teleporters all the time (while also dealing with other enemies that can do ridiculous stuff, mind you), so he should be fine.

yes if the toy touches to V1 his powers will get nullified,modified and transmutated basically he won't be able to control his powers also he can throw the toy to V1 while he is invisible

That’s ironically a huge threat for a frog honestly lmao. But I guess the toy loses its invisibility after being thrown? Even if it doesn’t, Monarch would still need a lot of luck just to tag a highly agile guy like V1, especially with a thrown toy, ngl.

yes but V1 doesn't have knowledge about akuma's powers so he might wanna hit it other than just dodging akumas isn't pretty fast so he wouldn't want to dodge it also the akuma would follow him

if he shoot the butterfly that's fine if he touchs to butterfly even if he doesn't accept he will get paralyzed for a few mins so that would give a big advantage to Monarch

Doubt it. I could see him being forced to parry if Monarch had a really potent danmaku, but since he doesn’t, V1 can just blast it with a shot or whatever (mf just saw a guy turn invisible and pull out a suspicious looking ahh butterfly why would he even try to hit it when there’s smth way more important to deal with cmon)

 

[DMUA]

They can be restricted?

They cannot.

It is not fine to restrict abilities in a versus matchup, implicitly or expressly. Matches that are arranged this way should not be added to the character profiles, as they don't involve their full potential, and are only intended for casual entertainment.

The page doesn't seem to indicate it's optional equipment or actively sealed, so the exceptions don't apply

 

[Lort15]

How strong are they? Because V1's arsenal upscales from a value that's already 2.83x stronger than him. These weapons can kill opponents comparable to or stronger than V1 really fast, and they aim for the head or other vital points. If the shots land (which is very likely considering they can blitz Monarch and V1 can ricochet them in patterns he wants) they’ll be fatal.

that's why said it can tank multiple hits by hawkmoth and mayura, as shown here, he will be able to break it after a few hits maybe but still can tank it

It doesn’t take that long, and he can also just spray the ground to see Monarch’s steps on it. This also makes using voyage to close the distance a bad idea since V1 fights teleporters all the time (while also dealing with other enemies that can do ridiculous stuff, mind you), so he should be fine.

fair

That’s ironically a huge threat for a frog honestly lmao. But I guess the toy loses its invisibility after being thrown?

nope it doesn't

Even if it doesn’t, Monarch would still need a lot of luck just to tag a highly agile guy like V1, especially with a thrown toy, ngl.

how can he dodge something that he can't see? also most of the villains underestimate that toy because of it's ridicilious look so this might happen with V1 too he doesn't have any knowledge about Monarch's powers

Doubt it. I could see him being forced to parry if Monarch had a really potent danmaku, but since he doesn’t, V1 can just blast it with a shot or whatever (mf just saw a guy turn invisible and pull out a suspicious looking ahh butterfly why would he even try to hit it when there’s smth way more important to deal with cmon)

it's iffy ngl what is V1's respond against an illusion of Monarch? also Monarch is pretty agile like Ladybug and Cat Noir they he can dodge attacks from V1 too also he has the snake miraculous which can do limited time travel if he fails he can use it as long as the main body don't die