• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Ben 10 skill addition and minor replacement

Status
Not open for further replies.

jgms2008

He/Him
Messages
276
Reaction score
106
Well, it's been a while since I posted anything, so here we are again! Since you already know the drill, let's just get straight to the point.


Ultimate Big Chill: Ice Manipulation Enhanced and Plasma Manipulation: Can fire beams of plasma energy.

Weather Manipulation: Ultimate Big Chill was confirmed to have weather-manipulating powers. Also demonstrated in this episode.

Professor Paradox:Acausality (Type 3): Exists simultaneously at multiple points in the space-time continuum

Power Nullification & Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3): Forced Ben to leave Alien X, nullifying his conceptual status as the personification of Reason

Alien x: Inorganic Physiology: Born in the center of creation.
Causality Manipulation&Reality Warping:Alien X and other Celestialsapiens can retroactively alter history and rewrite events over time, affecting not only people but also structures, biological characteristics, and even artistic styles, as demonstrated by changes to the setting, logos, and character designs after universal alterations.
high pain tolerance: Comparable to the Galactic Gladiator, who did not feel pain even when his hand was exploded, and the Galactic Gladiator’s punches did not cause pain to the consciousnesses of Alien X.

Omnitrix: Limited Electromagnetic Manipulation: The Omnitrix can be used for communication, intercepting police radio waves, and even speaking with Azmuth, who uses it to monitor the wielder.
Matter Manipulation/Limited Deconstruction: The Omnitrix can alter Ben’s matter naturally by being connected to his DNA. It changes the molecular structure of Ben’s clothes, adapting them for his alien forms and creates new technologies to ensure the safety and sustainability of his aliens and others around him. Typically, the clothes Ben is wearing disappear when he transforms and reappear when he returns to his normal form. However, due to a defect, the Ultimatrix destroys the outfits he is wearing during transformations.

Swampfire: Resistance to Poison Manipulation and Sleep Manipulation: His species is not affected by the highly toxic atmosphere of Planet Methanos, nor by the high amounts of methane gas and swamp gas.
Ultimate Swampfire: Fire Manipulation Enhanced and Energy Manipulation: His flames have become much more powerful than before, and he has improved his control over fire, now being able to manipulate blue fire energy.
Plant Manipulation Enhanced: Further improved his chlorokinesis.
Explosion Manipulation, Gas Manipulation, and Sleep Inducement Additional: Can launch multiple incendiary explosive bombs at once. Now he can fire methane or sleep gas in projectile forms to knock out opponents.

Classic Vilgax: Limited Telepathy: Through his DNA, he can communicate and cause pain to those who have come into contact with him or are interacting with his DNA. Using this ability, he was able to briefly protect one of his robots from Upgrade technological possession by communicating with it through the Omnitrix.
Alien force Vilgax: Social Influencing: CharmHe is the ruler of Vilgaxia, admired by the people of his planet. Acting – He perfectly played the role of Diagon’s servant, even deceiving Diagon himself while the entity believed it was controlling him. He also tricked Eon into thinking they were allies and fooled Albedo into believing he had no interest in the Omnitrix. Additionally, he made the Plumbers and even Ben believe he had changed, only to use this to escape. PersuasionInduced Tetrax to destroy his own planet, nearly convinced Ben Tennyson to become corrupt, and persuaded multiple alternate Bens and even Albedo—whom he had betrayed multiple times—to help him. Instilling FearAll Null Void inhabitants who know him fear his name, despite most of them being intergalactic criminals.
Extrasensory Perception: Was able to see Big Chill while he was invisible.
Resistance to Madness Manipulation Type 3: Was able to wield Ascalon without going insane.
Resistance to Telepathy and Mind Manipulation: Diagon was unable to control his mind. Despite Diagon having a hive mind with his servants, he still couldn't read Vilgax's mind, allowing Vilgax to plan against Diagon.
alias about the replacement I wanted to replace this from here: Electricity Manipulation and Non-Physical Interaction (With his Gauntlet. He caught Big Chill while he was intangible and shocked him) with this from here: Electricity Manipulation, Non-Physical Interaction, Negation of Intangibility and Invisibility: With his gauntlet, he grabbed Big Chill while he was intangible and invisible, then electrocuted him, forcing him out of that state.
agree: @Hellformer ABSOLUTE-ABSTRACT-KING
GeneralSol16
Youngwolf-0.1
disagree: GeneralSol16[disagrees with Alien X's inorganic physiology and Vilgax Extrasensory perception]
neutral:
 
Last edited:
Well, it's been a while since I posted anything, so here we are again! Since you already know the drill, let's just get straight to the point.


Ultimate Big Chill: Ice Manipulation Enhanced and Plasma Manipulation: Can fire beams of plasma energy.

Weather Manipulation: Ultimate Big Chill was confirmed to have weather-manipulating powers. Also demonstrated in this episode.

Professor Paradox: Acausality (Type 3): Exists simultaneously at multiple points in the space-time continuum.

Alien x: Inorganic Physiology: Born in the center of creation.
Resistance to Pain Manipulation: [1 layer] Comparable to the Galactic Gladiator, who did not feel pain even when his hand was exploded, and the Galactic Gladiator’s punches did not cause pain to the consciousnesses of Alien X.

Omnitrix: Limited Electromagnetic Manipulation: The Omnitrix can be used for communication, intercepting police radio waves, and even speaking with Azmuth, who uses it to monitor the wielder.
Matter Manipulation/Limited Deconstruction: The Omnitrix can alter Ben’s matter naturally by being connected to his DNA. It changes the molecular structure of Ben’s clothes, adapting them for his alien forms and creates new technologies to ensure the safety and sustainability of his aliens and others around him. Typically, the clothes Ben is wearing disappear when he transforms and reappear when he returns to his normal form. However, due to a defect, the Ultimatrix destroys the outfits he is wearing during transformations.

Swampfire: Resistance to Poison Manipulation and Sleep Manipulation: His species is not affected by the highly toxic atmosphere of Planet Methanos, nor by the high amounts of methane gas and swamp gas.
Ultimate Swampfire: Fire Manipulation Enhanced and Energy Manipulation: His flames have become much more powerful than before, and he has improved his control over fire, now being able to manipulate blue fire energy.
Plant Manipulation Enhanced: Further improved his chlorokinesis.
Explosion Manipulation, Gas Manipulation, and Sleep Inducement Additional: Can launch multiple incendiary explosive bombs at once. Now he can fire methane or sleep gas in projectile forms to knock out opponents.

Classic Vilgax: Limited Telepathy: Through his DNA, he can communicate and cause pain to those who have come into contact with him or are interacting with his DNA. Using this ability, he was able to briefly protect one of his robots from Ultra T's technological possession by communicating with it through the Omnitrix.
Alien force Vilgax: Social Influencing: CharmHe is the ruler of Vilgaxia, admired by the people of his planet. Acting – He perfectly played the role of Diagon’s servant, even deceiving Diagon himself while the entity believed it was controlling him. He also tricked Eon into thinking they were allies and fooled Albedo into believing he had no interest in the Omnitrix. Additionally, he made the Plumbers and even Ben believe he had changed, only to use this to escape. PersuasionInduced Tetrax to destroy his own planet, nearly convinced Ben Tennyson to become corrupt, and persuaded multiple alternate Bens and even Albedo—whom he had betrayed multiple times—to help him. Instilling FearAll Null Void inhabitants who know him fear his name, despite most of them being intergalactic criminals.
Extrasensory Perception: Was able to see Big Chill while he was invisible.
Resistance to Madness Manipulation Type 3: Was able to wield Ascalon without going insane.
Resistance to Telepathy and Mind Manipulation: Diagon was unable to control his mind. Despite Diagon having a hive mind with his servants, he still couldn't read Vilgax's mind, allowing Vilgax to plan against Diagon.
alias about the replacement I wanted to replace this from here: Electricity Manipulation and Non-Physical Interaction (With his Gauntlet. He caught Big Chill while he was intangible and shocked him) with this from here: Electricity Manipulation, Non-Physical Interaction, Negation of Intangibility and Invisibility: With his gauntlet, he grabbed Big Chill while he was intangible and invisible, then electrocuted him, forcing him out of that state.
Good job! I agree with everything
 
Don't know if u r from Latin America, but remember that in English is called "Uograde" hahaha

Agree with everything except Alien X's inorganic physiology and Vilgax Extrasensory perception
I'm sorry, I'm from Brazil and we call it ultra t instead of Upgrade, actually I know the name is upgrade but I prefer ultra t
 
I think this is causality manipulation and reality warping cause he rewrite the events over time maybe
 
How is this he Conceptual Manipulation? It could simply be Biological Manipulation and Non-Physical Interaction (Abstraction).
This is Conceptual Manipulation becausehe altered Ben's conceptual existence by separating him from an abstract state as Paradox not only physically transformed Ben back, but disconnected his essence from the abstract concept of Alien X causing Ben to revert to his human form.
 
Last edited:
This is Conceptual Manipulation becausehe altered Ben's conceptual existence by separating him from an abstract state as Paradox not only physically transformed Ben back, but disconnected his essence from the abstract concept of Alien X causing Ben to revert to his human form.
Well unless I am missing something, I doubt that being the "voice of reason" is a Type 1 Concept. That is just AE and from what you describe what paradox did it looks like a feat of fissionism, rather than CM.
 
Well unless I am missing something, I doubt that being the "voice of reason" is a Type 1 Concept. That is just AE and from what you describe what paradox did it looks like a feat of fissionism, rather than CM.
Ben is accepted as Type 1 concept when he goes Alien X, since he goes to the same level of hierarchy as Bellicus and Serena.
 
Well, it's been a while since I posted anything, so here we are again! Since you already know the drill, let's just get straight to the point.


Ultimate Big Chill: Ice Manipulation Enhanced and Plasma Manipulation: Can fire beams of plasma energy.

Weather Manipulation: Ultimate Big Chill was confirmed to have weather-manipulating powers. Also demonstrated in this episode.

Professor Paradox:Acausality (Type 3): Exists simultaneously at multiple points in the space-time continuum



Power Nullification &Conceptual Manipulation(Type 3): Forced Ben to leave Alien X , nullifying his conceptual status as the personification of Reason

Alien X: Inorganic Physiology: Born in the center of creation.
Causality Manipulation&Reality Warping:Alien X and other Celestialsapiens can retroactively alter history and rewrite events over time, affecting not only people but also structures, biological characteristics, and even artistic styles, as demonstrated by changes to the setting, logos, and character designs after universal alterations.
Resistance to Pain Manipulation: [1 layer] Comparable to the Galactic Gladiator, who did not feel pain even when his hand was exploded, and the Galactic Gladiator’s punches did not cause pain to the consciousnesses of Alien X.

Omnitrix: Limited Electromagnetic Manipulation: The Omnitrix can be used for communication, intercepting police radio waves, and even speaking with Azmuth, who uses it to monitor the wielder.
Matter Manipulation/Limited Deconstruction: The Omnitrix can alter Ben’s matter naturally by being connected to his DNA. It changes the molecular structure of Ben’s clothes, adapting them for his alien forms and creates new technologies to ensure the safety and sustainability of his aliens and others around him. Typically, the clothes Ben is wearing disappear when he transforms and reappear when he returns to his normal form. However, due to a defect, the Ultimatrix destroys the outfits he is wearing during transformations.

Swampfire: Resistance to Poison Manipulation and Sleep Manipulation: His species is not affected by the highly toxic atmosphere of Planet Methanos, nor by the high amounts of methane gas and swamp gas.
Ultimate Swampfire: Fire Manipulation Enhanced and Energy Manipulation: His flames have become much more powerful than before, and he has improved his control over fire, now being able to manipulate blue fire energy.
Plant Manipulation Enhanced: Further improved his chlorokinesis.
Explosion Manipulation, Gas Manipulation, and Sleep Inducement Additional: Can launch multiple incendiary explosive bombs at once. Now he can fire methane or sleep gas in projectile forms to knock out opponents.

Classic Vilgax: Limited Telepathy: Through his DNA, he can communicate and cause pain to those who have come into contact with him or are interacting with his DNA. Using this ability, he was able to briefly protect one of his robots from Upgrade technological possession by communicating with it through the Omnitrix.
Alien force Vilgax: Social Influencing: CharmHe is the ruler of Vilgaxia, admired by the people of his planet. Acting – He perfectly played the role of Diagon’s servant, even deceiving Diagon himself while the entity believed it was controlling him. He also tricked Eon into thinking they were allies and fooled Albedo into believing he had no interest in the Omnitrix. Additionally, he made the Plumbers and even Ben believe he had changed, only to use this to escape. PersuasionInduced Tetrax to destroy his own planet, nearly convinced Ben Tennyson to become corrupt, and persuaded multiple alternate Bens and even Albedo—whom he had betrayed multiple times—to help him. Instilling FearAll Null Void inhabitants who know him fear his name, despite most of them being intergalactic criminals.
Extrasensory Perception: Was able to see Big Chill while he was invisible.
Resistance to Madness Manipulation Type 3: Was able to wield Ascalon without going insane.
Resistance to Telepathy and Mind Manipulation: Diagon was unable to control his mind. Despite Diagon having a hive mind with his servants, he still couldn't read Vilgax's mind, allowing Vilgax to plan against Diagon.
alias about the replacement I wanted to replace this from here: Electricity Manipulation and Non-Physical Interaction (With his Gauntlet. He caught Big Chill while he was intangible and shocked him) with this from here: Electricity Manipulation, Non-Physical Interaction, Negation of Intangibility and Invisibility: With his gauntlet, he grabbed Big Chill while he was intangible and invisible, then electrocuted him, forcing him out of that state.
agree: @Hellformer ABSOLUTE-ABSTRACT-KING
GeneralSol16
Youngwolf-0.1
disagree: GeneralSol16[disagrees with Alien X's inorganic physiology and Vilgax Extrasensory perception]
neutral:
  1. Fine
  2. This is not shown. This is just ice breath.
  3. Power Nullification & Conceptual Manipulation(Type 3)
    1. Disagree. Paradox didn't Nullify powers. He forced the de-transformation without using the Omnitrix.
    2. They are not currently agreed to be concepts.
  4. Disagree. Alien X has DNA
  5. Causality Manipulation
    1. "The user can redirect any cause to any effect, undo anything by inverting the relation cause/effect, or even separate them entirely, making a specific effect impossible to be caused or a specific cause not producing any effect."
    2. CM should be removed from the profile based on this definition.
  6. Reality Warping
    1. The added justification is fine.
  7. Resistance to Pain Manipulation
    1. I suppose that counts when a character literally doesn't feel pain.
  8. Limited Electromagnetic Manipulation
    1. Do we actually give this to people/devices akin to a radio/cell phone/communicator?
  9. Matter Manipulation/Limited Deconstruction
    1. Fine
  10. Resistance to Poison Manipulation
    1. Fine
    2. and Sleep Manipulation
      1. How so?
  11. Ultimate Swampfire: Fire Manipulation Enhanced and Energy Manipulation
    1. Fine
  12. Plant Manipulation Enhanced: Further improved his chlorokinesis.
    1. Fine
  13. Explosion Manipulation, Gas Manipulation, and Sleep Inducement Additional
    1. Don't these fall under "All previous abilities on a higher scale"
  14. Classic Vilgax: Limited Telepathy
    1. What DNA? This was done through technology means from the Drone and Vilgax's control over the drones.
  15. Alien force Vilgax: Social Influencing
    1. Charm and Persuasion: Charisma/Leadership/Social Position and Reputation is fine.
    2. Acting: Deception is fine.
    3. Instilling Fear: Instigating Fear is fine
  16. Extrasensory Perception: Was able to see Big Chill while he was invisible.
  17. Resistance to Madness Manipulation Type 3: Was able to wield Ascalon without going insane.
    Resistance to Telepathy and Mind Manipulation
  18. Electricity Manipulation, Non-Physical Interaction, Negation of Intangibility and Invisibility: With his gauntlet, he grabbed Big Chill while he was intangible and invisible, then electrocuted him, forcing him out of that state.
    1. Disagree with negation. Without statements that an ability is literally negated, it is more than likely that getting electrocuted stopped BC from activating his invisibility and intangibility.
 
They are not currently agreed to be concepts.
Alien X's consciousness are accepted as being the embodiments of Love, Aggression and reason, isn't that the same?


What DNA? This was done through technology means from the Drone and Vilgax's control over the drones.
I'm sure that came from a Trivia, but I think the scan has been removed from the wiki.
 
  1. Causality Manipulation
    1. "The user can redirect any cause to any effect, undo anything by inverting the relation cause/effect, or even separate them entirely, making a specific effect impossible to be caused or a specific cause not producing any effect."
    2. CM should be removed from the profile based on this definition.
when you say that the cm should be removed from the profile you are referring to this phrase/skill if I'm correct: Causality Manipulation (Via Existence Erasure which should be superior to the Chrono Navigator, a device capable of destroying all of existence, which includes time and causality, as Servantis implied Alien X being omnipotent in that aspect, which has been supported by Professor Paradox previously, who called him omnipotent as well. Wanted to save the dinosaurs from extinction. Alien X can destroy all of existence, which includes all time and causality itself)[/LIST]
[*]Limited Electromagnetic Manipulation
  1. Do we actually give this to people/devices akin to a radio/cell phone/communicator?
I think so, a good example of this is Asimov (Gunvolt), who uses a device called EATR, which is an electromagnetic gun, to manipulate electromagnetic fields in a limited way.
link: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Asimov?utm_source=chatgpt.com
[/LIST]
[*]Resistance to Poison Manipulation
  1. Fine
  2. and Sleep Manipulation
    1. How so?

    1. Well, actually it was supposed to be sleep induction since the Methanosians evolved to live on the planet Methanos, which has a super toxic atmosphere, full of methane gas and other poisonous compounds, the species developed a natural resistance to effects such as drowsiness induced by toxins or gases.
    [*]Explosion Manipulation, Gas Manipulation, and Sleep Inducement Additional
    1. Don't these fall under "All previous abilities on a higher scale"

    1. Ok
      [*]Classic Vilgax: Limited Telepathy
      1. What DNA? This was done through technology means from the Drone and Vilgax's control over the drones.

 
Last edited:
when you say that the cm should be removed from the profile you are referring to this phrase/skill if I'm correct: Causality Manipulation (Via Existence Erasure which should be superior to the Chrono Navigator, a device capable of destroying all of existence, which includes time and causality, as Servantis implied Alien X being omnipotent in that aspect, which has been supported by Professor Paradox previously, who called him omnipotent as well. Wanted to save the dinosaurs from extinction. Alien X can destroy all of existence, which includes all time and causality itself)[/LIST]
I think so, a good example of this is Asimov (Gunvolt), who uses a device called EATR, which is an electromagnetic gun, to manipulate electromagnetic fields in a limited way.
link: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Asimov?utm_source=chatgpt.com

    1. Well, actually it was supposed to be sleep induction since the Methanosians evolved to live on the planet Methanos, which has a super toxic atmosphere, full of methane gas and other poisonous compounds, the species developed a natural resistance to effects such as drowsiness induced by toxins or gases.

    2. Ok

  1. So it would be more accurate to say Causality Destruction?
  2. "drowsiness induced by toxins or gases" I don't think I saw that in the scans.
    1. Looking back at the original episode, there's no indication that the drones are inherently biomechanical in the first place to say that they contain Vilgax's DNA, which they merged with Rojo.
    2. I lean against it, but you can talk to other staff on the matter.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top