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Dragon Ball Daima Spoiler Discussion Thread
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I don't think Freeza would accept this due to his pride.
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I still stick to my belief that Daima is canon to ita super timeline and didn't happen in manga and anime super timeline.
It's confusing when you have Super Majin Rymus and the universes he has created.
It's confusing when you have Super Majin Rymus and the universes he has created.
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Tamagotcha guys being Freeza tier which means base Goku is weaker than namek saga or that it wasnt made clear enough ... like dudes, all you gotta do is put the weed down and watch dragonball.
Just for the lulz, ive asked a very young first time Dragonball consumer in my family how strong base Goku (he never watched Z) ...
What he told me in a nutshell: Base Goku is stronger than all of Z for the following reason ...
Supressed Golrio is stronger than Kaioshin if we go by Gokus words. According to Goku, ((((supressed)))) Georio stands zero chance against that purple animal with huge ass muscles which means minotaur > supressed Girlo > Kaisiohin ... but this aint the end of the story since theres still full power Gerilo.
If we use base Gokus performance against full power Glorio and add minotaurs reaction of Gokus/Glorios battle ... you get the following:
Base Goku > full power Glorio > fodder minotaur > supressed Glorio > kaioshin > Z.
it will be based off of legal decisions, not so much writing ... well have to wait and see.
Anyway ... theres nothing confusing about it since it was never set in stone. Zeno is what guys like Beerus etc. are known for, but on crack. It never made much sense for me when it comes to Zenos "one above all" stats, if you check his reign age, how he acts like a little children, Grand Priest is on his side and Zeno was cleary never the creation type of guy.
Maybe this is a michael/lucifer situation where both where granted the power of absolute creation/destruction (basically half of gods powers). Zeno/Super Shenron are just semi gods and Majin Rymus could be the ultimate God? Or maybe Majin Rymus is the one whos the semi god and there used to be a guy above Majin Rymus who could destroy and create?
Perhaps there used to be an "omnipotent" being in Dragonball who splitted his powers into two?
Just for the lulz, ive asked a very young first time Dragonball consumer in my family how strong base Goku (he never watched Z) ...
What he told me in a nutshell: Base Goku is stronger than all of Z for the following reason ...
Supressed Golrio is stronger than Kaioshin if we go by Gokus words. According to Goku, ((((supressed)))) Georio stands zero chance against that purple animal with huge ass muscles which means minotaur > supressed Girlo > Kaisiohin ... but this aint the end of the story since theres still full power Gerilo.
If we use base Gokus performance against full power Glorio and add minotaurs reaction of Gokus/Glorios battle ... you get the following:
Base Goku > full power Glorio > fodder minotaur > supressed Glorio > kaioshin > Z.
it will be based off of legal decisions, not so much writing ... well have to wait and see.
Anyway ... theres nothing confusing about it since it was never set in stone. Zeno is what guys like Beerus etc. are known for, but on crack. It never made much sense for me when it comes to Zenos "one above all" stats, if you check his reign age, how he acts like a little children, Grand Priest is on his side and Zeno was cleary never the creation type of guy.
Maybe this is a michael/lucifer situation where both where granted the power of absolute creation/destruction (basically half of gods powers). Zeno/Super Shenron are just semi gods and Majin Rymus could be the ultimate God? Or maybe Majin Rymus is the one whos the semi god and there used to be a guy above Majin Rymus who could destroy and create?
Perhaps there used to be an "omnipotent" being in Dragonball who splitted his powers into two?
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StarShooter80
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Based off what
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Re read the "just for the lulz" part, that little guy never watched Z and Daima was his first dragonball expierence ... so i have no idea how he got that impression of kaio > Z.
While Kaioshin being above all of Z is wrong (well duh, never watched Z) doesnt really change how wrong the "Frieza > base Goku" sayers are since Kaioshin plays ping pon with Frieza.
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So it's like Pokémon, where the different canons, despite being disconnected, still scale to each other as they're different ways to look at the same world.
Makes me question why at this point we uncomposited the cosmologies of Toei and Super.
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I think someone later could make a verse composed by Toei and super
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Wondering. By "close in on the mysteries of the Dragon Ball world", Toriyama is clarifying that, even if the events of the series themselves are non-canonical, what surrounds and enables the events is canonical. Obviously, he is most directly referring to the worldbuilding, but does that extend to powerscaling as well? Like, even if Goku never traveled to the Demon Realm and battled with Gomah within the main continuity, he would have possessed the power to by that time anyway?
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But apparently asking what the **** uncompositing “basically identical cosmologies” means since even after uncompositing they should be the same ANYWAY is DERAILING, DESPITE LITERALLY BEING THE TOPIC OF THAT THREAD.
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Rymus will have a profile? Will it scale to the entire multiverse that includes timelines?
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He created the original timeline, this could scale him to low 1-C
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Should be 54 universes, since he originally made all 18 universes
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I see
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He created the individual universes. Like, explicitly. How do you even begin interpretating "He ordered the powerful Super Majin Rymus to create the universe" and "Various universes were created" as "He created the entire world itself"?—a world which, mind you, already existed and encompasses the Demon World.
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I hadn't thought of that beginning of the sentence
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TBH they should not even have a profiles, they do literally nothing in the story and are nothing more than static images, they ain't even animated lmao.
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he created the Universes... not the timeline, plus we don't have any information on how he did it to say it would scale to him physically or if it would just be with creation... plus i don't think we have enough information in general to make a page for him
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Stuff, might be finished
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Goku doesn't scale to makai? Goku was able to light up the entire makai with Ssj4 at least it would be 4-AStuff, might be finished
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Rymus will have a profile?
Besides that, it was a great job.
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Lighting up makai wouldn’t imply you scale to it.
StarShooter80
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He'd need to do actual damage for it to be considered an AP feat, this would be good range though
I do want to make a profile but someone else might be on it
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What would even go on a Rymus profile?
StarShooter80
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Powers and Abilities: Creation, Space-Time Creation, Dimension Creation... uhh
Attack Potency: Unknown, 2-C via Creation
Speed: probably fast
Lifting Strength: Immeasurable (Caries Daima's scaling)
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So, everything was perfect for me.
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He's gonna win that thing Nonexistent by creating subspace that has no concept of space-time and the world of emptiness that has concept of time or space ( i think this can't be missed either )
Nullflowerblush
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Again, he only created the individual universes.
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Statistic values?Stuff, might be finished
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I remember they announced the Battle of Gods extended version movie, can tell what happened with Ssj4
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StarShooter80
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Forgot to put them, will do in my own time
I don’t think it would be too much of an issue, if it does become canon it would be simple to apply. It’s not like if GT all of a sudden becomes undeniably canon
Now that’s interesting, hopefully it is true
This is much better
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On the “Even Telepathy is Negated” you should also cite that Telepathy transcends/has Interdimensional/multiple space time range. Such as when Piccolo talks to Goten and Trunks while they’re in the HTC, King Kai’s communication to the Z-Fighters from Otherworld, Goku literally intercepting the conversation between Kami and King Kai on Namek, or even the Elder and Kibitoshin conversation with King Kai in Battle of Gods.Stuff, might be finished
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If I had my PC I'd try to actually calc the size tbh.Stuff, might be finished
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Looks good, just need to calc SSJ4's Kamehameha crossing the second demon realm and it might be good to go
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That isn't 4-A, might even just be 4-B or lower tbh
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holy shit, they did? LINK PLEASE, I NEED TO SEE THIS
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From what I recall from the announcement the extended version of Battle of Gods and it's new 20 mins of content is specifically 20 mins not seen in european countries and such. Think it's the exact same the original extended version the US and Japan got back in 2014.
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