Ben 10: Update, Fixing and Additions part 9

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Spoiler: mana

Fix the page

Mana (Ben 10) page fixing

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• Fixing proves and page + Add Magic and Life-Energy Manipulation
• New A&R:

Where

• Healing (Low-High) & Restoration: Energy, Life, Soul, Magic & Body and Object - Scales to Anodites can restore physical objects. Mana users can restore the souls, life energy and the physical bodies of others.
• Minor Light Manipulation: Passive - Mana can make emit a blinding light
• Empowerment: Passive; Up to at most 2-A - Inside Ledgerdomain, which is filled with mana, mana users powers are boosted, even user's power is enhanced to the point where they are able to affect Alpha Rune, which is not affected by Hex's Staff who is superior to Mana users [outside the Legerdomain].
• Immense Pain Tolerance: Mana uesrs were consistanly shown to be able to wisthand blows from people scaling vastly above them in power, such as here, here and here, and can do so even after being rendered powerless.

Resistance:

• BFR: Mana shield are able to protect Mana user from Esoterica's teleport ability.

More Non-Physical Interaction:

• Intangibility [Phasing]: Can harm Ectonurites in phasing form.
• Soul - Can interact with souls.

Life-Energy Manipulation

• Power Bestowal: User can give energy to other people, such as here and here.
• Reactive Evolution, Empowerment & Greatly Absorption: User possess the ability to mine life energy from others life-forms, absorbing it from a distance or direct contact. This empowers them, greatly increasing their power as well as the potency of their abilities. Their own mana can also do the same, granting them more power and new abilities in combat when experiencing strong mana.
• Aura and Minor Light Manipulation: Explosive & Overwhelming; User can can emit a blinding light from his body, which can cause an explosion and killed any life-forms around him.
• Immortality: Type 2 - User can still alive even after lose their life-force.

Magic

• Reality Warping: Passive; Magic's effects can warp reality to an unknown extent, they can control over things by can their names, they can do anything without laws. Magic can changes the Legerdomain all the time.
• Ice Manipulation: Magic user can created snow.
• Magic & Aura: Passive; User can ues magic power with a magical aura can utilize it to use magic all the time.
• Healing (Low-High) & Restoration: Energy, Metaphysical, Immaterial, Magic & Physical - Magic can restore people's powers, mana, and body.
• Conceptual Manipulation: Type 1 Type 3 - Magic users has the ability to manipulate names, which give users power to control over things, and even Alpha Rune which is embodies the true name of magic, holding a lot of legerdomain together, it also caused it to collapse after being disappearance, it's source of all essences, and existed long before Legerdomain and the current timeline, and even is source of all magical realms and even affect on them.

Resistances

• Unconventional Resistance to Power Nullification: Magic users can still use their own powers, even after being nullifies.

Remove:

• Accelerated Development: Battle, Physical Statistics; Anodites can become stronger and faster in the midst of combat.

In page:

This is the ability to rapidly increase one's overall strength or other physical capabilities by engaging in combat, becoming more and more capable over the course of a fight.

We see in a scene that Verdon does not get confused in a fight, but rather regains her strength after becoming weak and unable to continue the fight. This is Restoration (Energy & Stamina).

Limited Absorption: Life-energy, Soul, Magic and Power - Mana cannot be fully absorbed. Considering that it is part of the user, they can still use most of their abilities even after someone absorbs mana from them.

In fact, the users' entire power can be absorbed, but they continue to use it even after absorbing it, so it must be replaced with this:

Unconventional Resistance to Absorption: Life-energy, Soul, Magic and Power - Mana users can still use their own powers even after being absorbed.

Layers for Absorption:

Ben 10: Mana's Absorption Layers

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Spoiler: New page

Page for Omnitrix Alien Physiology (Classic Continuity)

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Note:
This get discussed in this CRT, as many people says this should be put in Omnitrix's profile (in Power and Abilities [with separate Key]) since there is no need for Physiology and some would prefer it to be put in separate page, so I put many options:

1. Agree with put it in Omnitrix's profile: @Success0906
2. Agree with page: @DemonicDude, @Firestorm808
3. Agree with put all abilities in Aliens profiles:

Spoiler: Professor Paradox

Hyperverse level via Creation (Created Chronal randomization barrier, which comparable to the size of The Forge of Creation since it completely hides the Forge of Creation from anyone in all of the existence)

Causality Manipulation Negation (Make Chronal Randomization Barrier out of sync with all time, which is a system of cause and effect in the verse)

Spoiler: Abilities

Gwen:

Neutral Vision - Can see Ghostfreak in their invisible form. Soul Vision - Can see Ben's and Kevin's soul.

Resistance to Fear Manipulation (Can still fight against Verdona, without affected by Anodite's aura)

Supernatural Willpower (Can broke free form Ultimate Kevin's absorption and pain effects through anger)

Charmcaster:

Soul Vision - Can see souls.

Alien X:

Information Manipulation (Type 2 [4-D]; Can erased all of existence, which includes Rex's Dimension where space, time, matter energy, etc are fundamental building blocks of reality.)

Chrono Navigator:

Information Manipulation (Type 2 [4-D]; Can erased all of existence, which includes Rex's Dimension where space, time, matter energy, etc are fundamental building blocks of reality.)

Annihilarrgh:

Information Manipulation (Type 2 [4-D]; Can erased the universe, which includes Rex's Dimension where space, time, matter energy, etc are fundamental building blocks of reality.)

(Alien X has Resistance to Annihilarrgh's powers this would include Information)
Chronosapien Time Bomb:

Information Manipulation (Type 2 [4-D]; Can erased all timelines, which includes Rex's Dimension where space, time, matter energy, etc are fundamental building blocks of reality.)

(Omnitrix has Resistance to CTB's powers this would include Information)

Agree: @Antvasima, @Firestorm808 (Neutral with CM Type 3), @ActuallySpaceMan42 (with CM Type 3)
Disagree: @Firestorm808 (Disagree with Immortality Type 2), @Reiner04 (Only with CM)
Neutral: @Firestorm808 (Neutral with CM Type 3), @ActuallySpaceMan42 (Neutral with Immortality Type 2)

 

[Hellformer]

For info Manipulation, you can better write:
Can erase all of existence, that includes Rex's dimension where space, time, matter, energy, etc are fundamental building blocks of reality

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Spoiler: Professor Paradox

Causality Manipulation Negation (Make Chronal Randomization Barrier out of sync with all time, which is a system of cause and effect in the verse)

This should just be called "Causality Negation". Manipulating causality is irrelevant if the causality itself is negated lol.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

This should just be called "Causality Negation". Manipulating causality is irrelevant if the causality itself is negated lol.

This doesn't mean anything, this is Causality Manipulation Negation, they're many characters has this ability and the reason they negate causality, like Yhwach

• Causality Manipulation Negation (Yhwach can rewrite the future so that everything he destroys will remain broken in all possible futures, even with Orihime's ability to reject past events and causality she was unable to repair Tensa Zangetsu after it was broken by Yhwach<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Yhwach#cite_note-:681-29">[29]</a>)

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

This doesn't mean anything, this is Causality Manipulation Negation, they're many characters has this ability and the reason they negate causality, like Yhwach

Ok

The Mana fixing page needs some refining but other than that, I agree with everything.

 

[Lort15]

Info manip , following.

 

[DemonicDude]

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Spoiler: New page

Page for Omnitrix's Aliens Physiology

Sandbox

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Spoiler: New page

You mean "Classic Continuity Omnitrix Alien Physiology"

You know you gotta be "specific"

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Bump

 

[Lort15]

Disagree with kid Gwen having neutral vision she didn't see Ghostfreak she only heared his voice which Ben allowed her to hear as you can see she is looking around but she can't see him, turning her back is just a reaction to his voice, not because of she is able to see him

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Disagree with kid Gwen having neutral vision she didn't see Ghostfreak she only heared his voice which Ben allowed her to hear as you can see she is looking around but she can't see him, turning her back is just a reaction to his voice, not because of she is able to see him

She literally saw him in this scene as you can see for yourself

 

[DemonicDude]

She literally saw him in this scene as you can see for yourself

That could be due to Ghostfreak being Black in color there instead of white. (Therefore Ghostfreak made himself partially transparent on purpose)

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

That could be due to Ghostfreak being Black in color there instead of white. (Therefore Ghostfreak made himself partially transparent on purpose)

No, it is also seen here as hidden

 

[Lort15]

She literally saw him in this scene as you can see for yourself

She did NOT see him she was only looking to the place where the sound come from just looking to the place that sound come from doesn't mean she can see him, and we are clearly seeing it she is double checking where he is cuz she can't see him

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

She did NOT see him she was only looking to the place where the sound come from just looking to the place that sound come from doesn't mean she can see him, and we are clearly seeing it she is double checking where he is cuz she can't see him

No, she was literally seeing him. He literally move his hands in front of her while she was looking at him. Just because she was moving her eyes does not mean that she did not see him, and you can see that she was seeing him from her own perspective.

 

[DemonicDude]

I give up Rex.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

No, she was literally seeing him. He literally move his hands in front of her while she was looking at him. Just because she was moving her eyes does not mean that she did not see him, and you can see that she was seeing him from her own perspective.

It wasn't from her perspective, it was the audiences perspective. Gwen didn't know how to use mana or any of her abilities at this point in her life. Besides she wasn't shocked seeing something going tgrough her body here and when Ghostfreak went invisible, she could see crab.

I think this is a beter example.

 

[Lort15]

It wasn't from her perspective, it was the audiences perspective. Gwen didn't know how to use mana or any of her abilities at this point in her life. Besides she wasn't shocked seeing something going her body here and when Ghostfreak went invisible, she could see crab.

I think this is a beter example.

Ye i was about to give that scan but you got me lol

 

[ShionAH]

Information 2 is a lie and wrong.

Guy only says its a block for Matter, Anti Matter and Gravity. No Reality, Space or etc.

There is no mention of any kind of Information, literally yes Matter IS a building block of reality thats true even for our own world. You need some kind of implication or statement saying its Information or Data.

 

[DemonicDude]

Hi Shion
long time no see. You interested in a good old DemonicDude's "obligatory" reboot match ?

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

It wasn't from her perspective, it was the audiences perspective. Gwen didn't know how to use mana or any of her abilities at this point in her life.

We literally see her with her eyes. What does mana have to do with the topic lol.

Besides she wasn't shocked seeing something going tgrough her body here and when Ghostfreak went invisible, she could see crab.

He just crosses her body, and even she literally sees him. She just ran away and we never saw her look at Crab, just bc Ghostfreak become invisible in scan, don't mean she don't see him

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Information 2 is a lie and wrong.

Guy only says its a block for Matter, Anti Matter and Gravity. No Reality, Space or etc.

Space and time are included.

 

[DemonicDude]

Space and time are included.

Yeah but they(nanites) exist in Rex's Universe which according to Professor Paradox has completely different laws of physics.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Information 2 is a lie and wrong.

Guy only says its a block for Matter, Anti Matter and Gravity. No Reality, Space or etc.

He says it's a building blocks of the universe

Each of these meta-nanites have a cypher written inside, that gives them jurisdiction over different building blocks of the universe -- matter, antimatter, gravity, magnetism.

Also it's program all the others and tell them what to do: matter, anti-matter, gravity, magnetism, energy, space, time, elemental, and mechanica, all the things that would make the Rex's universe run.

There is no mention of any kind of Information, literally yes Matter IS a building block of reality thats true even for our own world. You need some kind of implication or statement saying its Information or Data.

it's program so it's data/information

In the early days of the Nanite Program our goal was simple: construct micro-machines to cure diseases, grow cells, regenerate bones...

 

[Hasty12345]

She literally saw him in this scene as you can see for yourself

This isn't conclusive proof she can see GF

 

[Hellformer]

Yeah but they(nanites) exist in Rex's Universe which according to Professor Paradox has completely different laws of physics.

Those Universes in background aren't same as parallel dimensions which Rex's dimension is a part of

 

[Hellformer]

it's program so it's data/information

The concept cipher itself is used to hide original data in form of codes/programs so it should be obvious

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Yeah but they(nanites) exist in Rex's Universe which according to Professor Paradox has completely different laws of physics.

The Cosmology page says that Ben and Rex's dimensions exist in the same Timestream/Annihilarrgh Universe. And besides Paradox didn't say that was Rex's dimension. He just says that it's the Universe next over.

There is no mention of any kind of Information, literally yes Matter IS a building block of reality thats true even for our own world. You need some kind of implication or statement saying its Information or Data.

The Meta Nanites manipulate reality via the codes/ciphers built into them.

 

[Lort15]

Hi Shion
long time no see. You interested in a good old DemonicDude's "obligatory" reboot match ?

Is shion a reboot supporter ?

 

[ShionAH]

Is shion a reboot supporter ?

HHellnah

 

[DemonicDude]

The Cosmology page says that Ben and Rex's dimensions exist in the same Timestream/Annihilarrgh Universe.

Existing in the same universe also requires proof of each Universe and their fundamental blocks when it comes to Power scaling.
So when it comes to building blocks, Rex's Universe is made up of only one component and that is called Nanites.

And besides Paradox didn't say that was Rex's dimension. He just says that it's the Universe next over.

When it comes to Ben's Universe it is different than Rex's because it's not made up of Nanites to begin with.
It's made up of Three Collective components instead of one.

• The first one being Mana (Which exists everywhere and no alien x can not directly alter it either)
• Number two "transtemporal metaphysics" mentioned in Episode: Paradox of the series Ben 10 Alien Force which gives the user complete understanding of space and time. The clip is from Ben 10 Alien Force episode "Paradox"
• Number three are "Omniversal Forces" briefly explained by albedo that they are fundamental driving forces of the Universe. The Clip is from in Ben 10 Omniverse episode " For a Few Brains More"

This information was brought up to Dr. Holiday who had no idea that the fundamental building blocks are different which is why Ben easily travels to Parallel Universes and Rex's universe has no idea of them (Evidence video) further confirming they don't share the same building blocks.

I'm not going to reply to user Hellformer, since he's friend with Greenshifter which that further degrades his credibility.

 

[Lort15]

HHellnah

Good

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Existing in the same universe also requires proof of each Universe and their fundamental blocks when it comes to Power scaling.
So when it comes to building blocks, Rex's Universe is made up of only one component and that is called Nanites.

When it comes to Ben's Universe it is different than Rex's because it's not made up of Nanites to begin with.
It's made up of Three Collective components instead of one.

• The first one being Mana (Which exists everywhere and no alien x can not directly alter it either)
• Number two "transtemporal metaphysics" mentioned in Episode: Paradox of the series Ben 10 Alien Force which gives the user complete understanding of space and time. The clip is from Ben 10 Alien Force episode "Paradox"
• Number three are "Omniversal Forces" briefly explained by albedo that they are fundamental driving forces of the Universe. The Clip is from in Ben 10 Omniverse episode " For a Few Brains More"

This information was brought up to Dr. Holiday who had no idea that the fundamental building blocks are different which is why Ben easily travels to Parallel Universes and Rex's universe has no idea of them (Evidence video) further confirming they don't share the same building blocks.

I'm not going to reply to user Hellformer, since he's friend with Greenshifter which that further degrades his credibility.

Isn't dimensions also has different historys? So it should be has different type of universe

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Existing in the same universe also requires proof of each Universe and their fundamental blocks when it comes to Power scaling.
So when it comes to building blocks, Rex's Universe is made up of only one component and that is called Nanites.

It's not the same universe/dimension but they're both in the same Annhilarrgh Universe however.
Kevin (Alien Force) comments that there exists different dimensions but is still surprised of the existence of other universes. Rex's dimension is specifically stated to be a dimension, not another Universe.

Rex's dimension is accessible via a Dimensional Disruptor/Nullvoid gun. The same device that would've spead Ben across multiple dimensions.

This is also kinda irrelevant given that Servantis states that Celestialsapiens can erase all of existence, while being fully aware of other Universes.

When it comes to Ben's Universe it is different than Rex's because it's not made up of Nanites to begin with.
It's made up of Three Collective components instead of one.

• The first one being Mana (Which exists everywhere and no alien x can not directly alter it either)
• Number two "transtemporal metaphysics" mentioned in Episode: Paradox of the series Ben 10 Alien Force which gives the user complete understanding of space and time. The clip is from Ben 10 Alien Force episode "Paradox"
• Number three are "Omniversal Forces" briefly explained by albedo that they are fundamental driving forces of the Universe. The Clip is from in Ben 10 Omniverse episode " For a Few Brains More"

Hasn't B10 characters been converted to data enough times for us to consider that his dimension operates on it as well? Ben, Gwen and Tetrax getting trapped in the Omnitrix's simulation, Ben trapped in the Ultimatrix and interacting with the Ultimates, which are meant to be alien DNA simulated to speed run evolution and then getting physical bodies, Ben and Gwen getting trapped in a video game/Sumo Slammers and Kanko believing he can exist in the 'real world', and Upgrade being able to physically interact with data.

No, Albedo said that the Omniversal force extends through all of existence. Including other dimensions given that it's larger than a multiverse. It doesn't govern a singular Universe, it governs everything.

This information was brought up to Dr. Holiday who had no idea that the fundamental building blocks are different which is why Ben easily travels to Parallel Universes and Rex's universe has no idea of them (Evidence video) further confirming they don't share the same building blocks.

Sezar's Dimensional Disruptor easily took Ben back to his dimension. Rex's dimension just doesn't have enough big brains to crack dimensional travel nor has any of the characters that have the needed intelligence(Sezar) shown to have any interest in dimensional travel.

I'm not going to reply to user Hellformer, since he's friend with Greenshifter which that further degrades his credibility.

...

 

[Lort15]

I'm not going to reply to user Hellformer, since he's friend with Greenshifter which that further degrades his credibility.

Eh aren't you also friends with Green why being aggressive on hellformer now

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Bump

 

[DemonicDude]

Eh aren't you also friends with Green.

no I'm not.
I don't resort myself to such lower moves.

 

[DemonicDude]

This @jgms2008 guy, he seems smart and well educated on Ben 10 franchise, I think he's a good power scaler. I respect his energy & hustle.

 

[Lort15]

no I'm not.
I don't resort myself to such lower moves.

 

[Lort15]

This @jgms2008 guy, he seems smart and well educated on Ben 10 franchise, I think he's a good power scaler. I respect his energy & hustle.

What about me

 

[DemonicDude]

What about me

I think you're definitely on the list of people who knows how to power scale (unlike some whom I don't need to mention, their name also makes my skin crawl), so I respect that very much.
infact, I even went ahead and found nice jokes online for you to laugh and kick off your day off with a smile.