Five Nights at Dexter's (Dexter vs FnaF)

[ShionAH]

Dexter Morgan

The main protagonist of the Dexter television series, as well as its 2021 revival, Dexter: New Blood, Dexter Morgan is a blood spatter analyst who moonlights as a vigilante serial killer of murderers. Due to childhood trauma, Dexter is largely consumed by a compulsive desire to kill people...

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Michael Afton

Michael Afton, son of William Afton,[1] is the playable protagonist of Five Nights at Freddy's,[4] Five Nights at Freddy's 2 (Night 7[5]), Five Nights at Freddy's 3,[6] Five Nights at Freddy's 4,[2] Five Nights at Freddy's: Sister Location[1] and Freddy Fazbear's Pizza Simulator[3] After...

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Fight takes place in Freddy Fazbears Pizzeria

Killer Killer: 3 (@Pyro9278, Generational Fnaf Hater @DaReaperMan, @Da3ggman)
Corpse:
Incon: 9 (@AThe1412, @Bendynoah10, @ShionAH, @Dark_Soul20189, @ByArrow, @TheOrangeGuy09, @REX9097, @Edutyn, @Dragonite007)

 

[Pyro9278]

Dexter spawns in the main stage of Fnaf 1, Michael is in the office

What is the context? Does Dexter have to investigate until he finds Michael, are they going to fight, or what are the conditions for victory?

 

[AThe1412]

So Mike can't do anything to Dex without the taser. What's stopping from just turning off the building's power then sneaking up to disarm his foe?

 

[Pyro9278]

So Mike can't do anything to Dex without the taser. What's stopping from just turning off the building's power then sneaking up to disarm his foe?

If that is the case, then everything seems to hinge on the hax of Remanente against which Dexter can do nothing, or at least against its immortality (the incap is another topic). That is why I want to know if there is more context

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Of all the fnaf characters, why choose Michael... He has no actual combat feats, no combat abilities, and is a walking skinsuit.

He does have matches and a Teaser he can use, though.

Due to him being Low remanent, it does not give him any combat abilities but does grant him "immunity" (Can't kill him) to most if not all of Dexter's abilities, but Remnant is weak to fire, so If Dexter can figure that out, he can actually win. Though Dexter could also Theoretically cap Him, but with Remnant healing properties it would be hard.

So yeah, I am currently leaning for a incon, but I don't know a lot about Dexter.

 

[HASE-1929]

Dexter Morgan

The main protagonist of the Dexter television series, as well as its 2021 revival, Dexter: New Blood, Dexter Morgan is a blood spatter analyst who moonlights as a vigilante serial killer of murderers. Due to childhood trauma, Dexter is largely consumed by a compulsive desire to kill people...

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Michael Afton

Michael Afton, son of William Afton,[1] is the playable protagonist of Five Nights at Freddy's,[4] Five Nights at Freddy's 2 (Night 7[5]), Five Nights at Freddy's 3,[6] Five Nights at Freddy's 4,[2] Five Nights at Freddy's: Sister Location[1] and Freddy Fazbear's Pizza Simulator[3] After...

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Dexter spawns in the main stage of Fnaf 1, Michael is in the office

What can Micheal really do here?
(Same for Dexter)
Micheal can't really hurt Dexter in without the Taser but I doubt it would do that much.
And Dexter can't really do anything against type 2 immo and wall level dura (I may be wrong tho)
Im leaning towards incon

 

[AThe1412]

If Dexter has access to his optional equipment then he can tie Michael up with plastic wrap and slowly cut him apart with his chainsaw which won't necessarily kill him but will certainly incapacitate him, except he doesn't so I have no idea what he can do here. M99 and pressure point attacks won't work either because Mike doesn't need sleep and is literally dead.

 

[ShionAH]

are they going to fight

yes

Of all the fnaf characters, why choose Michael... He has no actual combat feats, no combat abilities, and is a walking skinsuit.

I love him

What can Micheal really do here?

I assumed Michael could use the Taser and enviroment for Dexter since his Stealth is better. While Dexter could simply try to overpower and incap him

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Alright, let's try to do this properly then (I am a fnaf fan, and lack knowledge about Dexter outside his profile, so feel free to correct me if I am wrong on anything regarding him since I am purely basing it on the profile.

• Dexter is too weak to damage Michael.
• Dexter has a faster overall speed than Michael, but Michael has an extreme speed advantage in attack speed with Tazar
• Dexter has the Striking strength and AP advantage (Duh, Micheal is a skinsuit)

So Neither should be capable of Physical harming the other (So basically a tie), now let's get into hax

* Michael has a row of Semi useful hax that can flip the advantage into his favour, mainly his stealth, RE, and the immortalities gained from Remnant.
(Note Remannt is weak to fire)
* Dexter seems to have all his hax from mental gymnastics (his IQ), and is extremely good in combat with or without weapons, but nothing completely unrealistic.

So Michael has the advantage in hax, Now let's get into intelligence.

* It's not even funny how outclassed Micheall is in this category...

yeah, Dexter takes this category without a doubt.


So yeah, I think this match will be decided solely by Dexter's first actions, If he goes into close combat or not. If he does he will most likely get Speed blitzed eventually since he would be unable to cause any real or permanent damage to him, so it's only a matter of time before he gets hit by a Tazar and its GG. If he decides to do something else, he still needs to be careful when engaging, due to the reasons mentioned already but would love it if a more knowledgeable member could write a likely scenario here.
So does Dexter have any real wincons for this fight? yeah, By SBA, he can win by either incapping his opponent or killing him, and should be possible since I fail to see how Dexter would not be able to cause a fire in a fnaf location...

Now, what are Michael's winconditions? Simple, he wins if he can hit Dexter with a Tazar ones, then it's GG.

So yeah, both have wincons, but Michael has a better chance of achieving his, but depending on Dexter's actions, it can also be likely to be an incon.

So yeah I am for now voting incon, but leaning towards Michael win.

 

[ShionAH]

So yeah I am for now voting incon, but leaning towards Michael win.

I wanna note, Michael also has better Stealth Mastery and knows around the Pizzeria

 

[AThe1412]

I wanna note, Michael also has better Stealth Mastery and knows around the Pizzeria

Dexter has enhanced awareness and voices in his head warning him about attacks he himself doesn't see coming.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

I wanna note, Michael also has better Stealth Mastery and knows around the Pizzeria

Yep

 

[ShionAH]

Dexter has enhanced awareness

Michaels Stealth Mastery negates Enhanced Senses

voices in his head warning him about attacks he himself doesn't see coming.

That could help

 

[AThe1412]

So yeah. Dex wins if he can go messing around in the kitchen to set the building on fire and trap Mike inside. If not then it's an inconclusive.

Michaels Stealth Mastery negates Enhanced Senses

Not the same type of senses. Baby's profile, for instance, only says that she can see in the dark. Dexter is just generally very aware of his surroundings and can sense attacks coming from behind him.

 

[ShionAH]

Not the same type of senses. Baby's profile, for instance, only says that she can see in the dark. Dexter is just generally very aware of his surroundings and can sense attacks coming from behind him.

Dexter definitely doesnt have enhanced senses better than robots designed to hunt down humans, though since Ballora and other Funtimes lack profiles I guess I cannot say much.

Btw Dexter has no way to know about the fire stuff, I dont think thats a solid wincon. Counting you for Incon I presume?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

So yeah. Dex wins if he can go messing around in the kitchen to set the building on fire and trap Mike inside. If not then it's an inconclusive.

I fail to see any reason why Dexter's first move would be to go and set the Kitchen on fire and why Michael, according to you lacks a wincon.

Not the same type of senses. Baby's profile, for instance, only says that she can see in the dark. Dexter is just generally very aware of his surroundings and can sense attacks coming from behind him.

You are only looking at one of the funtimes. Also, Baby's enhanced senses are not the best. If you want the real story, you need to check Ballora's Hearing, Funtime Foxys Sight, etc. Each funtime has its own purpose.

 

[AThe1412]

Dexter definitely doesnt have enhanced senses better than robots designed to hunt down humans, though since Ballora and other Funtimes lack profiles I guess I cannot say much.

Btw Dexter has no way to know about the fire stuff, I dont think thats a solid wincon. Counting you for Incon I presume?

Yeah, Inconclusive FRA.

I fail to see any reason why Dexter's first move would be to go and set the Kitchen on fire and why Michael, according to you lacks a wincon.

Because Dex has dealt with armed people many times before. He'll see the cameras in the building and know someone's watching him thus leading him to tamper with the power, then he can just sneak up on Mike and disarm him which means the doors and taser won't be a problem.

 

[ShionAH]

Michael would sneak up on Dexter actually, since unlike Dex he knows where he’s located at

Counting the votes

I.

Do I count you as Incon or Mike W

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Because Dex has dealt with armed people many times before. He'll see the cameras in the building and know someone's watching him thus leading him to tamper with the power, then he can just sneak up on Mike and disarm him which means the doors and taser won't be a problem.

Love the assumption of everything going perfectly for Dexter, sure he COULD do that, but what do you think Michael will let him do that? Hell, where is he even getting the knowledge about the layout of the building from?

And again, Why are you making the assumption that Michael has no wincon?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Do I count you as Incon or Mike W

Just put me in both for now.

 

[AThe1412]

Love the assumption of everything going perfectly for Dexter, sure he COULD do that, but what do you think Michael will let him do that? Hell, where is he even getting the knowledge about the layout of the building from?

Read the profile. He has successfully snuck in and out of many more secure and inhabited locations without knowing their layout before.

And again, Why are you making the assumption that Michael has no wincon?

Because he genuinely has none once the taser is out of the picture? What other wincon does he have other than trying to take on Dexter?

Michael would sneak up on Dexter actually

Is it in character for him to sneak up on others to attack them? Is it in character for him to actively seek out and confront a threat at all?

since unlike Dex he knows where he’s located at

And Dex will just sit still and let him do it? He knows he's being watched so he'll either try to stay out of sight or, you know, just turn off the power because he's more than capable of doing that.

 

[ShionAH]

he pretty much uses taser when he feels threatened so yeah

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Read the profile. He has successfully snuck in and out of many more secure and inhabited locations without knowing their layout before.

Cool, he can sneak in and out of places more secure, but how does that help him instantly know where everything in the building is, and how the building works?

Because he genuinely has none once the taser is out of the picture? What other wincon does he have other than trying to take on Dexter?

Again, how can you assume he is capable of getting rid of it from him in the first place? and that it's a 100% chance of happening?

Is it in character for him to sneak up on others to attack them? Is it in character for him to actively seek out and confront a threat at all?

Defently, he attacks instantly when he feel threatened. He is constantly seeking out threats proven by the games themself existing. The moment he is feeling something is off he acts stealthy, proven by SL and fnaf 4

And Dex will just sit still and let him do it? He knows he's being watched so he'll either try to stay out of sight or, you know, just turn off the power because he's more than capable of doing that.

Why are you only assuming Dexters action matter?

he pretty much uses taser when he feels threatened so yeah

yeah

 

[AThe1412]

he pretty much uses taser when he feels threatened so yeah

Mike defending himself with the taser is obvious enough. What I mean to ask is whether or not he'll leave the office to confront Dexter or if he'll continue sitting there and use the doors like he does with the animatronics.

 

[AThe1412]

Cool, he can sneak in and out of places more secure, but how does that help him instantly know where everything in the building is, and how the building works?

Read my comment again, please. He can figure out the layout of a building very quickly despite not being there before. It's just what he has been doing for decades.

Again, how can you assume he is capable of getting rid of it from him in the first place? and that it's a 100% chance of happening?

He has the skill to disarm people and a massive LS advantage (and stealth too if he can get the drop on Mike). I never said it's a 100℅ chance, just extremely likely given he has done it many times before. He has disarmed a hitman while the guy was holding him at gunpoint.

Why are you only assuming Dexters action matter?

You tell me. What can Mike do to stop Dexter from doing that?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

You tell me. What can Mike do to stop Dexter from doing that?

As mentioned, Michael has the speed advantage in his attack speed to a Subsonic level. All he needs to do is successfully hit him once with the tazar.

Michael will know exactly where Dexter is and what he is doing, from the cameras as well as knowing the layout of the building fully.

Sure, Dexter can learn it quickly, but it will still take time, time that Micheal will use to be able to Sneak up on him and try to land a decisive blow with the tazar.

So Michael has an awareness of his opponent's current position and what they are doing. While Dexter needs to quickly figure out where he is and the layout.

So Michael has better stealth, attack speed, and full awareness of where Dexter is and what he is doing.

 

[AThe1412]

As mentioned, Michael has the speed advantage in his attack speed to a Subsonic level. All he needs to do is successfully hit him once with the tazar.

Michael will know exactly where Dexter is and what he is doing, from the cameras as well as knowing the layout of the building fully.

Sure, Dexter can learn it quickly, but it will still take time, time that Micheal will use to be able to Sneak up on him and try to land a decisive blow with the tazar.

So Michael has an awareness of his opponent's current position and what they are doing. While Dexter needs to quickly figure out where he is and the layout.

So Michael has better stealth, attack speed, and full awareness of where Dexter is and what he is doing.

Subsonic attack speed but with Average Human physical speed... Yeah, whatever you say. It's not like it'll change the outcome of the match.

 

[ShionAH]

Subsonic attack speed but with Average Human physical speed...

Difference between Average Human speed and Peak Human speed is not that much. Speed tiers barely matter in low tier matches

 

[AThe1412]

Difference between Average Human speed and Peak Human speed is not that much. Speed tiers barely matter in low tier matches

Except it does? Dexter disarmed a guy who's probably faster than Michael while he was already aiming at him.

 

[ShionAH]

Except it does? Dexter disarmed a guy who's probably faster than Michael while he was already aiming at him.

Not how that works in versus threads, people who blitz someone in series domt get 7x value just upscaling

So Dexter simply upscales from human speed, which doesnt mean he can grab the taser or dodge it when the taser is subsonic

This doesnt matter as Michael is likely gonna get speed buffs anyway lol

 

[AThe1412]

Not how that works in versus threads, people who blitz someone in series domt get 7x value just upscaling

So Dexter simply upscales from human speed, which doesnt mean he can grab the taser or dodge it when the taser is subsonic

This doesnt matter as Michael is likely gonna get speed buffs anyway lol

Never implied Dex blitzes Mike. Aim dodging is a thing you know? He's not outspeeding the taser, he's outspeeding the guy holding the taser and moving it or himself out of the way before he can pull the trigger.

 

[ShionAH]

You know what, whatever. Its definitely an Incon I think

 

[AThe1412]

You know what, whatever. Its definitely an Incon I think

Yeah, let's just agree to disagree. I'm tired of answering arguments I have already answered.

 

[Deadguy999]

I saw five nights at someone who start with d and thought it was diddy lol

 

[AThe1412]

I saw five nights at someone who start with d and thought it was diddy lol

 

[Deadguy999]

Imao

 

[HASE-1929]

I assumed Michael could use the Taser and enviroment for Dexter since his Stealth is better. While Dexter could simply try to overpower and incap him

Actually doesn't the same taser damage the animatronics in pizza sim?

If it hits Dexter once there's Chance Micheal will cause serve harm or just flat out kill Dexter with it so that's a decent wincon ig
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From what I see Micheal has like really good stealth mastery

 

[AThe1412]

Actually doesn't the same taser damage the animatronics in pizza sim?

If it hits Dexter once there's Chance Micheal will cause serve harm or just flat out kill Dexter with it so that's a decent wincon ig.

It barely does anything to them, basically as effective as a normal taser which isn't gonna kill Dexter.

 

[HASE-1929]

It barely does anything to them, basically as effective as a normal taser which isn't gonna kill Dexter

Incon then

 

[ShionAH]

It barely does anything to them, basically as effective as a normal taser which isn't gonna kill Dexter.

Uh what? It completely stops them and paralyses for quite some time

After you use it they are incapable of moving for a few “rounds”, so yeah it would kill Dexter but it hardly matter since it doesnt change the outcome