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Wiki Page Deletion Requests Thread (New forum)

I don't appreciate the characterization I'm just "annoyed" I have to edit weaker characters, I spent the last 2 days updating the formatting and quality of the pages for the canon characters in the verse. It was when i came across pages like this


With a single scan (wasn't there before I put it there in a verse wide revision) were published right now instead of 8 years ago it wouldn't be deleted.
 
Don't delete the saint seiya verse, i really like thr verse, but there were a lot of characters that were not added to the verse.
 
Don't delete the saint seiya verse, i really like thr verse, but there were a lot of characters that were not added to the verse.
No one is deleting the verse, I'm trying to have a fraction of low quality and non-combatant pages deleted.
 
On second though, given Agnaa's thread and Bambu making statements. I am inclined to agree with their side more. We can still just rewrite the existing pages when we're finally done instead of just nuking everything. Or leave foot notes about the verse's outdated status.
 
On second though, given Agnaa's thread and Bambu making statements. I am inclined to agree with their side more. We can still just rewrite the existing pages when we're finally done instead of just nuking everything. Or leave foot notes about the verse's outdated status.
Except we(the supporters) are not remaking minor character 67 when we revise the verse. We arent nuking everything, this is stuff that we aren’t ever touching for the foreseeable future at best, or ever flat out at worst. I highly request you guys reconsider
 
Except we(the supporters) are not remaking minor character 67 when we revise the verse. We arent nuking everything, this is stuff that we aren’t ever touching for the foreseeable future at best, or ever flat out at worst. I highly request you guys reconsider
I don't really understand the issue. If you're changing a statistic verse-wide, applying it to more pages isn't very difficult, and it isn't particularly time-consuming either. But if y'all really can't find anyone to do that, I'd be willing to apply every other wide-scale stat change to these profiles, if you give me instructions on what should be changed, and on what pages.

If you're thinking about giving it a makeover, you don't have to do that.
 
I don't really understand the issue. If you're changing a statistic verse-wide, applying it to more pages isn't very difficult, and it isn't particularly time-consuming either. But if y'all really can't find anyone to do that, I'd be willing to apply every other wide-scale stat change to these profiles, if you give me instructions on what should be changed, and on what pages.

If you're thinking about giving it a makeover, you don't have to do that.
That’s only one portion of the reasonings I gave and it only applies as a valid counter argument for some of the profiles I presented for deletion.

There are at least 4 profiles (galarian steiner, Icharus Touma, legend of sanctuary Saga and Seiya) that have no reason to even exist.

Galarian Steiner is a butler and cannot fight due to losing his left arm and eye in a flashback. He does not fight, he does not have scaling.

Icharus Touma’s profile is a composite of a movie and manga characters and should just be deleted.

And the legend of sanctuary profiles have no scans and the movie is only available illegally. There should not be an onus on verse supporters to have to pirate movies to sustain claims on profiles. As it currently stands, nothing on those profiles has any evidence to support any of the claims on there and everything on the profiles are remnants of when the canon structure allowed for cross scaling, this is no longer the case and the movie exists in its own continuity we cannot even access to fix the profiles.

I am willing to concede the other profiles I listed at least have relevance and will be fixed at some point (don’t know when but it should happen), but the 4 mentioned in this post are not a case of “you’ll get to them eventually” or “laziness”.
 
Relevance is a little generous to some of these characters. Out of a total of 90 something profiles we currently intend to revise or make eventually, the most relevant of these guys not named Cain or shjima are near the bottom or don’t even make it on the list. I don’t mind if the nd golds stayed actuallu
 
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That’s only one portion of the reasonings I gave and it only applies as a valid counter argument for some of the profiles I presented for deletion.

There are at least 4 profiles (galarian steiner, Icharus Touma, legend of sanctuary Saga and Seiya) that have no reason to even exist.
I already said that if they have no reason to be on our site, they should be deleted.
Galarian Steiner is a butler and cannot fight due to losing his left arm and eye in a flashback. He does not fight, he does not have scaling.
If he legitimately has no scaling, feats, or abilities informing how he'd function in combat, then delete him. But simply being a butler instead of a fighter, or being physically impaired, or not fighting these days, or not having scaling to other characters, does not rule one out from having a profile.
Icharus Touma’s profile is a composite of a movie and manga characters and should just be deleted.
Sure, compositing between canons shouldn't be done, and if no-one is interested in fixing it, delete away.
And the legend of sanctuary profiles have no scans and the movie is only available illegally. There should not be an onus on verse supporters to have to pirate movies to sustain claims on profiles.
This seems to not be true. From a quick search, I can find many BDs of it for sale.
 
Feel free to buy it then, let us know what’s legit and what isn’t.
That makes me just not really get the point.

Legit ways of watching most shows/movies require you to buy them. If you don't want to spend the money on it, you can pirate it. If you have some moral issue against doing that, first off why, but secondly that's not really reason for us to delete it.
 
That makes me just not really get the point.

Legit ways of watching most shows/movies require you to buy them. If you don't want to spend the money on it, you can pirate it. If you have some moral issue against doing that, first off why, but secondly that's not really reason for us to delete it.
it doesn’t change the fact the profile/s are full of false (invalid cross scaling) and unverifiable claims (lack of scans + lack of access amongst the current supporter base).

For a wiki that typically strives for accuracy, it’s strange there’s such a push to keep these kinds of profiles.

An entire verse was deleted with near unanimous decision because profiles lacked scans and the supporters didn’t want anyone else to make “low quality CRTs” (mind you every reason you provided against the removal of StS from the wiki was brought up by myself and utterly disregarded as being “false” and “not the case”), yet Saint Seiya supporters have to fight tooth and nail to get non-canon profiles from a 2 hour movie that no one of us have access to and none of the scans are on the profiles, is entirely insane.
 
it doesn’t change the fact the profile/s are full of false (invalid cross scaling) and unverifiable claims (lack of scans + lack of access amongst the current supporter base).

For a wiki that typically strives for accuracy, it’s strange there’s such a push to keep these kinds of profiles.

An entire verse was deleted with near unanimous decision because profiles lacked scans and the supporters didn’t want anyone else to make “low quality CRTs” (mind you every reason you provided against the removal of StS from the wiki was brought up by myself and utterly disregarded as being “false” and “not the case”), yet Saint Seiya supporters have to fight tooth and nail to get non-canon profiles from a 2 hour movie that no one of us have access to and none of the scans are on the profiles, is entirely insane.
I didn't approve that deletion, wouldn't have approved it, and currently have a thread open that aims to provide an alternative to deletion in those cases.
 
for whatever my vote's worth is here, I agree with @Hasty12345 and @StekFence. The supporters are the ones who have to take time to edit each and every profile, they would know which profiles are needed and is just a useless profile with no reason to really exist.

If supporters have problems with a profile being deleted then they can hash it out themselves, but I really don't think we as staff members, who have no ball in the court whatsoever in regards to Saint Seiya should be saying whether or not useless profiles should stay or not, when not only most if not all the supporters unanimously agreed that these should be deleted, but we know nothing about the verse: what's canon and what's not, what's properly sourced or not, what's verifiable or not etc etc. I don't think we should be focusing on policing that. Plus if the supporters find later on that these characters are relevant for scaling or have good feats worth making a profile for, they could always remake the profile, deleting profiles isn't the end all be all.
 
for whatever my vote's worth is here
It's worth nothing, but on the thread linked above it's worth something. You're a thread mod, we trust you to be sensible, so if you disagree with the policy or figure it needs fine-tuning, you should mention it in there. Personally, I haven't commented because I don't know how to feel about it, I'm torn. I think the status quo is abusable and to an extent exclusionary but also the change can just make it annoying for legitimate changes to go through. So, if there's curiosity on the matter, this'd be why I haven't commented yet. If you feel strongly one way or the other, you should comment.
 
for whatever my vote's worth is here, I agree with @Hasty12345 and @StekFence. The supporters are the ones who have to take time to edit each and every profile, they would know which profiles are needed and is just a useless profile with no reason to really exist.

If supporters have problems with a profile being deleted then they can hash it out themselves, but I really don't think we as staff members, who have no ball in the court whatsoever in regards to Saint Seiya should be saying whether or not useless profiles should stay or not, when not only most if not all the supporters unanimously agreed that these should be deleted, but we know nothing about the verse: what's canon and what's not, what's properly sourced or not, what's verifiable or not etc etc. I don't think we should be focusing on policing that. Plus if the supporters find later on that these characters are relevant for scaling or have good feats worth making a profile for, they could always remake the profile, deleting profiles isn't the end all be all.
I agree with this. Some characters in some verses will just never be gotten to for reworks, or the page is just so shit that looking at it pisses people who like the character off. Like Stukov.
It's worth nothing, but on the thread linked above it's worth something. You're a thread mod, we trust you to be sensible, so if you disagree with the policy or figure it needs fine-tuning, you should mention it in there. Personally, I haven't commented because I don't know how to feel about it, I'm torn. I think the status quo is abusable and to an extent exclusionary but also the change can just make it annoying for legitimate changes to go through. So, if there's curiosity on the matter, this'd be why I haven't commented yet. If you feel strongly one way or the other, you should comment.
For the record: I agree with this, this is why discussion threads should be active should a verse be deleted with plans to bring it back. could also jutt down the "CRT is required to remake deleted pages" rule in writing if it isn't already. For the record on Starcraft, DDM is in the discord and I tend to post sandboxes onto another discord @Tllmbrg is in, which I appreciate the reviews from him because it ensures I'm not high on my bullshit.

Sometimes, yes, it is abused, no names but a certain verse came back without any CRT and it had problems to say the least.

Hell, sometimes I forget a profile got deleted when publishing a new one and auto-pilot through making it from a sandbox, that's why I like having people double-check cause thinking is something I sometimes just don't do.
 

Self-Explanatory
 
This is just a non combat applicable profile
 
This is just a non combat applicable profile
I think we'd keep this one. He's not just an ordinary human (that defibrillator is supernatural), and the verse does have a legitimately superhuman and combat-worthy profile.
 
So when the Fate verse, Shinza Bansho, and Twin Peaks will return? How long is it for them to return?
 
I think this was supposed to be in blog post rather than actual verse cosmology page?
I didn't find anything related to this page. If anyone happen to know anything please let me know. Or I'll just move this page to it's creators sandbox.
 
I think this was supposed to be in blog post rather than actual verse cosmology page?
I didn't find anything related to this page. If anyone happen to know anything please let me know. Or I'll just move this page to it's creators sandbox.
That user (@XTXidk3251) discussed it in this thread which wasn't accepted. So yeah, move away.
 
A profile directly admitted to be incomplete.
 
A profile directly admitted to be incomplete.
If it is incomplete, just edit it
 
A profile directly admitted to be incomplete.
Rn it inherently can’t be complete since it’s ongoing new chapters every day but the maker of profile should’ve atleast published it when they were caught up to a reasonable extent plus it makes actually publishing the profile easier rather than a million different CRTs
 
A profile directly admitted to be incomplete.
Rn it inherently can’t be complete since it’s ongoing new chapters every day but the maker of profile should’ve atleast published it when they were caught up to a reasonable extent plus it makes actually publishing the profile easier rather than a million different CRTs
Just delete it if you want, I'll finish it and repost it. Don't need it in my sandbox either, I already have a blog.
 
How much of the profile do you need completed? Like all of it up to where the story is ongoing, or like at least the first key?
Up to where it's ongoing. If shit's being dropped daily I'd recommend picking a point, getting a few staff into your pocket, and after you release the profile just update it in swaths of like... 30-60 new things a pop. If you really want to keep it going, I know I wouldn't.
 
The wiki is no stranger to constant CRTs, nor (in spite of our policies) profiles for actively ongoing series. If the series releases constant updates, then it will invariably be a constant series of CRTs to keep it from being outdated. For now, if the profile is accurate to the majority of the released content, then I'd call it a success, given the circumstances.

Obviously you should strive to make it as up to date as possible, however.
 
So are we deleting it or not? I have a reason for everything, intelligence was for a future crt, and resistances was for a cultivation physiology. It I just need 5 characters on the wiki for a verse-specific power.
 
I'd say it is fine to keep it, but you need to be diligent in updating it. Moreso than most other verses.
 
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