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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

Success0906 said:
Guys, how about we give Graham NEP type 5 as well? He is beyond reason/logic after all, what do you think?

DON'T TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY! IT'S JUST A MADMAN'S RAMBLINGS!
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He should get type 5 aspect for lacking history like he previously did when WN profile was up but needs a seperate thread.
 
Dereck03 said:
From the current 1 to 8 volumes? I think none, but there's more coming from future volumes.
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I love hax. I don't know why.. I just love complex hax that everyone argues around. It makes everything so juicy, so fragrant. Just perfection.
 
Success0906 said:
I love hax. I don't know why.. I just love complex hax that everyone argues around. It makes everything so juicy, so fragrant. Just perfection.
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We are missing Plan Manipulation.
https://cdn.**********.com/emojis/1326342997134016572.webp?size=96
 
DemonKing021 said:
Wait until Anos' bullshits his way to the top again.

Venuzdonoa Solos (I am delusional)
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Success0906 said:
Kneel before the almighty sword!
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Success0906 said:
Kneel before the almighty sword!
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Indeed. As Anos said Venuz Solos. Logic can f**ck itself.
“I’ll answer you as a gift to take to the afterlife. This is Venuzdonoa, the Abolisher of Reason—the demon sword of the founder, destroyer of anything in existence. Be it providence, fate, or a miracle, all will bow down before me and disappear.”
No matter how sturdy, how eternal, or how infinite a thing was, Venuzdonoa could destroy it—even reason itself. Reason was meaningless before the Sword of Devastation.
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By the way, wasn't Anos weaker than Noah before he regained his body? Noah left his powers behind in his body after all.
Ronclus looked at the small shadow with his magical eyes. Inside it was the core of Noah, and the main body standing next to it was empty.
“This will be my first attempt at using reincarnation magic. Even if I succeed, there is a possibility that I will not be able to fully inherit my power and memories. I will leave them in this body. I entrust it to you, sir.”
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So maybe he can surpass Zinnia if he gains abyss magic in volume 16
 
DemonKing021 said:
By the way, wasn't Anos weaker than Noah before he regained his body? Noah left his powers behind in his body after all.

So maybe he can surpass Zinnia if he gains abyss magic in volume 16
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he would have surpassed zinnia by now if he didn't reincarnate as fraudnos

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I really like the trope where the main character looks older than their BIOLOGICAL age, ignoring their CHRONOLOGICAL age.
 
Guys anyone noticed the theme song of season 2 might have been referencing Noah. I mean just look at the lyrics.

The whole world still hasn't noticed
I have confidence in my unknown self
I'll fly freely, I'll draw at will
And change the fate of people I don't even know

Aspiration and love circulate in my blood
The flame burns hotter than ever
It becomes the pride of important people
Singing only the words I believe in

I made a promise to my past self
And I'm living my journey chasing only that
In my heart, Seien
I want to love it, I want to be loved

Being yourself is good, it's fine to be yourself
The blue flame is always in your heart
I won't forget, that initial impulse
Let's go as far as the front lines
To the point where even the long and painful days
Disappear into the wind
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I mean Noah was literally called the Free Wind blowing in the silver sea.
“No,” they rejected the Usurper’s words for the third time. “We do not need oaths. You are the free wind blowing in this ocean. Set out on your journey without any obstacles.”
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Even on windless days, somewhere in this ocean, the wind blows. It is a free wind that is connected to you.
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Noah did change the fate of the people he didn't even know. As the theme song says, it's fine to be yourself. It doesn't matter what the order of the world is.
This was the beginning of their journey across the silvery sacred ocean. Noah rescued everyone he could, wherever they found themselves. He rescued those who were not saved by the order of the world; those who did not fit into that order.
Agane is a warrior from the dust world of Palibilla.
Inept at acting, he was a dud in a world where everyone wore makeup and clowned around. His simple-minded sword skills were of no value in the dust world, and Noah invited the miserable Agane to join him on his journey.
Nouz – awakened from the dream world of Follforal.
In a world where the inhabitants sleepwalked, he could not sleep. And those who did not sleep were forbidden to go outside and were kept under arrest as outcasts. Noah rescued Nouz and invited him on his journey.
The Unholy Raghu from the world of Azlaben scriptures.
In a world where holy words have power, Raghu was born without vocal cords and could not speak. Calling Raghu “the Wicked One,” he was made an object of pity and protection. In Azlaben, it was believed that giving alms to the Wicked One would raise your status and morality. He was destined to live a life of ease, but Raghu wanted to try to do something on his own. But because he could not speak, he had no power in this world. Noah gave Raghu a voice and took him on his journey.
Noah saved those who could not be saved, one by one.
And then one day he arrived in the stagnant world of Zagaro – one of the Twelve Deep Worlds ruled by the supreme demon lord Zinnia Shivaheld.
It was a world in which everything, including even the flow of time, moved very slowly.
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Noah did want to be loved.
“…I wish…” Luna said, hugging Noah tightly. “I wish you were my son…”
“Yeah,” Noah said in Luna’s arms. “I don’t know my parents. If I had a mother, she would probably love me as much as you do.”
- How lonely.
“Yes,” Noah agreed with Luna. “Let’s meet again sometime. After we both achieve our goals.”
- It’s a promise.
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Noah's deeds became the pride of the important people who wanted to see him as the King.
These were the parting words of the Usurper of the Two Laws and the people who had appointed him king…
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Anos didn't forget his initial impulse. He is still saving people and changing everyone's fate.

So yeah pretty sure this song is reffering to Noah from Anos' POV.
 
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Dereck03 said:
Stop wanking.
https://cdn.**********.com/emojis/908046661161459722.webp?size=96
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Noah should get fate manipulation. The theme song literally says he is changing the fate of the people. Since he scales above Equis who scales above Order and he is an inhabitant of 99th layer, his fate manipulation should have 99+ layer.
 
DemonKing021 said:
Noah should get fate manipulation. The theme song literally says he is changing the fate of the people. Since he scales above Equis who scales above Order and he is an inhabitant of 99th layer, his fate manipulation should have 99+ layer.
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Truer words have never been spoken.
 
DemonKing021 said:
By the way, wasn't Anos weaker than Noah before he regained his body? Noah left his powers behind in his body after all.

So maybe he can surpass Zinnia if he gains abyss magic in volume 16
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Can't say for sure that Anos has the power he had as Noah but he does have the spells Ig maybe just not the durable body
 
Tatsumi504 said:
Read the fight again and no, he doesn't. MEoCD and Eyes of Eternal Darkness were competing equally
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I think he said that because Anos brought up how Zinnia was holding back in their duel while anos had to use his Trump Card. He was also playing tug of war with the Abyss worlds. So that's that.

Anos also stated that Amur is probably stronger than him who we know is weaker than Zinnia.
It is believed that the supreme demon lord Zinnia Shivaheld is the only one in the entire silver-water sacred ocean who was able to master the magic of the abyss.
This means that he clearly hasn’t yet shown everything he’s capable of.
Let me see the reason why you are called the Supreme Demon Lord.
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Also didn't the Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destrction overpower the Magic Eyes of Eternal Darkness? Or am I missing something?

The “Magic Eyes of Eternal Darkness” flashed scarlet, and in the next moment, the darkness that covered everything around dissipated like fog and disappeared.
We were in the throne room. Despite all the violence Zinnia and I had done, the room was largely undamaged. Its darkness must have swallowed up all the destruction.
“You’ve been hiding a curious power. Or did you acquire it during your absence?” the supreme demon lord said, looking up at me. “It’s the reason my favorite chair is broken.”
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DemonKing021 said:
Yeah. Volume 9 will bring up the sister goddesses being two sides of the same coin. Abernyu and Millitia being the examples. Another example brought up in that volume is Goddess of birth Wenzel and Goddess of Abortion Andrek.
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And vol 10 part 2? More info about dualities and Arcana?
 
ElPapucho80 said:
And vol 10 part 2? More info about dualities and Arcana?
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Volume 10 act 1 will bring up Anos being the opposite of every order without exception and him having the Source of Chaos. It also gives more info about every order working in a systematic way.

Volume 10 act 2 will show off Arcana's order of absurdity. You can read it yourself.

Arkana stared at the abortion goddess, calmly closed her eyes, and when she opened them again, an arched “Sun of Destruction” and a “Moon of Creation” in a new moon state appeared in her magical eyes, which together formed one circle, revealing the true power of the “Magic Eyes of Absurdity”.
“The Selection Court was unnaturally distorted by that child of nothingness. And now the stability of order has been completely disrupted. Despite the resurrection of the goddesses of destruction and creation, I, who only fulfilled their duties, still have the same powers, and my strength, on the contrary, has only increased. Apparently, he wanted to ridicule this world.
Calmly raising both hands, Arkana turned them towards the sky.
- Snow swirls in the rays of the spring sun, and six flowers will melt the world, – icy flaming flowers soared from her hands. – Six flowers of the spring sun.
These frozen flowers, shining brightly like the sun, shimmering like the cold moon, were ablaze. One by one, the flowers gathered behind Arkana, and created something that resembled the moon and the sun, and at the same time, was neither.
- ...What… the?.. Is this really… order?..
Anderk looked at the objects created by the Six Flowers of the Spring Sun, stunned – six icy-flaming petals.
They undoubtedly carried within themselves the order of the gods. Divine powers manifested their power.
- ...Im…impossible… It’s that simple… – opening her divine eyes and personally encountering a divine power that should not exist, she – one of the gods forming the source of order – shook her head. – This is some kind of mistake!!.. Such an order does not exist…
“The moon will not rise, and the sun will set, and spring will illuminate the land without gods,” Arkana said in a calm voice. “The Six Colors of Absurdity” by Levihelworth.
The ice-cold flaming flowers emitted both cold and heat. The normally incompatible ice and fire coexisted without any conflict with each other. The sea of absurdity was simultaneously burned and frozen by this contradictory force. The order of the great tree of the mother sea began to rapidly disturb. The forbidden guards who had sunk to the bottom of the sea and were unable to even move were illuminated by the “Six Flowers of Absurdity”. They began to move again and began to save one demon soldier after another.
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Tatsumi504 said:
Read the fight again and no, he doesn't. MEoCD and Eyes of Eternal Darkness were competing equally
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Equal when Zinnia was holding back Absolute Vortex on one end and was fighting Anos on another end without even using Abyss Magic while Anos was using his strongest hax to survive Zinnia for 60s. 😑
 
DemonKing021 said:
I think he said that because Anos brought up how Zinnia was holding back in their duel while anos had to use his Trump Card. He was also playing tug of war with the Abyss worlds. So that's that.

Anos also stated that Amur is probably stronger than him who we know is weaker than Zinnia.

Also didn't the Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destrction overpower the Magic Eyes of Eternal Darkness? Or am I missing something?
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No it's just because of both clashing chair broke. Also Eternal Darkness is the real why not other things in that room didn't got destroyed it swallowed up the whole destruction
 
DemonKing021 said:
Volume 10 act 1 will bring up Anos being the opposite of every order without exception and him having the Source of Chaos. It also gives more info about every order working in a systematic way.

Volume 10 act 2 will show off Arcana's order of absurdity. You can read it yourself.
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Order of Absurdity feat is full hax right? I remembered a thread about transduality with this.
 
ElPapucho80 said:
Order of Absurdity feat is full hax right? I remembered a thread about transduality with this.
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It's all hax. Order of absurdity is simply absurd. It's order that opposes all order while also being part of it.

Unfortunately as a new member, it will take some time for me to get used the wiki terms like transduality.
 
DemonKing021 said:
It's all hax. Order of absurdity is simply absurd. It's order that opposes all order while also being part of it.

Unfortunately as a new member, it will take some time for me to get used the wiki terms like transduality.
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And Plot Manipulation? True or a dream? 🗣️ 🗣️
 
ElPapucho80 said:
And Plot Manipulation? True or a dream? 🗣️ 🗣️
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DemonKing021 said:
Unfortunately there's no plot manipulation. The closest we have is Equis comparing his fate manipulation to re writing the script of this world.
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Dereck03 said:
Plan Manipulation.
https://cdn.**********.com/emojis/1326342997134016572.webp?size=96
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You guys weren't here back then, but the plot attempts were rejected and deemed as Plan Manipulation, now that's a meme between us.
 
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