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Creating a Solar Eclipse using Water

MasqueTLDF

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So, how would a creation feat involving a character creating so much water in the air that the sun is completely blocked out (not a single ray of light touches the earth) leading to a Solar Eclipse be calced or how much energy would it take?
 
Why not?
Is there some rule against using liquids for feats like this?
While I am not that well knowledgeable in calcs, the Direct problem I see, is that it needs to be based on too many assumptions and unknowns, for example.

How big is the Star?
How big is the Planet`?
What distance is it between them?
Where exactly is the ""water Wall" located between the two celestial bodies?

These are the first parts of the problem, but that can be assumed. The next part is the real issue.

How can we even get an idea of how much water was created for this feat?
There are simply too many variables.
-Density
-Temperature
-Depth
-ect


To conclude, we have no idea how to even calc how much water is created, so how would we be able to even calculate the the energy created from it?

The Entire thing would be based on assumption after assumption.
 
While I am not that well knowledgeable in calcs, the Direct problem I see, is that it needs to be based on too many assumptions and unknowns, for example.

How big is the Star?
How big is the Planet`?
What distance is it between them?
Where exactly is the ""water Wall" located between the two celestial bodies?

These are the first parts of the problem, but that can be assumed. The next part is the real issue.

How can we even get an idea of how much water was created for this feat?
There are simply too many variables.
-Density
-Temperature
-Depth
-ect


To conclude, we have no idea how to even calc how much water is created, so how would we be able to even calculate the the energy created from it?

The Entire thing would be based on assumption after assumption.
We assume the standard sizes of the planet, Sun etc until stated otherwise

There’s also other ways you can go over the calc like calculating the potential energy assuming the waterball is suspended in the air
 
So, how would a creation feat involving a character creating so much water in the air that the sun is completely blocked out (not a single ray of light touches the earth) leading to a Solar Eclipse be calced or how much energy would it take?

its either a thick water wall or alot of tiny water particule, either way it should scale the same (the latter could even be stronger)

"In the ocean, the aphotic zone is sometimes referred to as the dark ocean. Depending on how it is defined, the aphotic zone of the ocean begins between depths of about 200 m (660 ft) to 800 m (2,600 ft) and extends to the ocean floor."



depth should be between 200 and 800 meter, ill take 500 meter.



if it really blocks everything it should cover all of the exposed part of the earth, assuming it really does cover all of earth and not just the exposed part and is acting like a moving umbrella cuz that sounds goofy;

lets say its 8000 meters above the ground so that it doesnt interfere with physical bodies on the surface (mountains)



volume of sphere : 4/3× π×r^3

earth radius (+height) : 6386000 meter (radius + 8000 meter)

earth volume : 6386000^3 * 4/3 * π = 1.0908759e+21 cubic meter

water body : ((6386000+500)^3 * 4/3 * π) - 1.0908759e+21 = 2.563e+17 cubic meter

density of water : 1000 kg/m^3

mass : 1000 * 2.563e+17 = 2.563e+20 kg

GPE;

for height ill take 8000 + 250 meter (average of the bottom and top of the water body)

2.563e+20 * 9.81 * 250 = 6.2857575e+23 joules, Large Country Level



As for creation, on the VSBW creation page it is listed as beyond High 6-A.

i dont know the formula for the GBE of such shape
 
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I dunno if such a feat even exists in fiction or if that can be calculated. Where did you get this from?
 
We'd need to know how widely the eclipse effect is seen that way. If it blocks the sun from the perspective of one person, a single town, a whole country, a whole hemisphere, etcetera. The ball of water could be as small as a tennis ball or as big as the sun itself until we know the context.
 
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