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Upgrade for the Life is Strange verse

Hixkaryana

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This is my proposed scaling for Life is Strange verse (which is a huge bump from where it's at right now) after reviewing its cosmology.

This blog summarizes mainly everything that captures the size of the cosmology, and how its main heroine would scale to it.
This thread greatly helped me refine the blog.
My proposed scaling would be:
  • The Multiverse: Contains an infinite number of possibilities, as many stars in the universe. (2-A)
  • The Storm: Is the amalgam and nexus of all collapsing timelines affected by people with reality bending powers in the multiverse, showncased to be containing a limited amount of timelines but potentially could go higher. (At least 2-C)
  • Maxine Caulfield - Games: By using her ability to rewind time, she caused the fragmentation of the multiverse by altering the course of reality and ultimately created the Storm. (2-C Environmental Destruction) Also managed to fuse the two collapsing timelines that were entangled in the Storm, and thus undo it to form a single timeline. (2-C)
  • Maxine Caulfield - Comics: Provoked the appareance of two Storms in two different timelines, and managed to suppress both. (2-C Environmental Destruction and 2-C)

Agree: @Ar1216789 @henryzx900ruly @Suigetsuhyugs (allegedly) @TurtleGod55 @FentyBeauty @Bernkastelll
@Dalesean027 (ADMIN) @FinePoint (ADMIN)
Disagree:
Neutral:
 
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I mostly agree with everything. While reading the blog I really didn't see a scan which suggests the Time Manipulation affected the entirety of the timeline, so I don't think L2C Maxine via Time Manip is a possibility. The Storm stuff and the rest of the cosmology, I agree with it.
 
Ar1216789 said:
I mostly agree with everything. While reading the blog I really didn't see a scan which suggests the Time Manipulation affected the entirety of the timeline, so I don't think L2C Maxine via Time Manip is a possibility. The Storm stuff and the rest of the cosmology, I agree with.
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Fixed it
 
When I said that Max from comics would be 2-C with powers I was refering to her having undone the storm which is a 2-C structure, proving that she can significantly affect and or destroy a 2-C structure.
The storm is not 2-C environment destruction, should be "At least 2-C" as the storm's size it's at least 2 timelines collapsing on each other.
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
When I said that Max from comics would be 2-C with powers I was refering to her having undone the storm which is a 2-C structure, proving that she can significantly affect and or destroy a 2-C structure.
The storm is not 2-C environment destruction, should be "At least 2-C" as the storm's size it's at least 2 timelines collapsing on each other.
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Isn’t that what I wrote in the blog and in the OP; « suppress »? And fine with the « At least ».
 
Hixkaryana said:
We should get rid of Environmental Destruction as a whole for 2-C
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Environmental Destruction is for Max causing the Storm by time travel, since the storm is a consequence of the timelines collapsing which are indirectly caused by Max, but undoing the storm is directly affecting the 2-C structure as such is not environment destruction.
Indirectly=environment destruction
Directly= straight up full tier
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
Environmental Destruction is for Max causing the Storm by time travel, since the storm is a consequence of the timelines collapsing which are indirectly caused by Max, but undoing the storm is directly affecting the 2-C structure as such is not environment destruction.
Indirectly=environment destruction
Directly= straight up full tier
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Thank you, I wasn't sure what it meant. Do I count you as agreed?
 
2-A cosmology is fine.

As for the scaling, there's quite a handful of issues. Firstly, I don't exactly see how the storm is remotely a tier 2 structure or phenomenon by the scans shown, as I see a lack of context being linked between the pieces of evidences. Such as how this description of Max being able to extricate people from mind control and another scan of her combining something, which you claim to be timelines, doesn't really tell me how any of that connects to the storm expanding into different universes, since there isn't sufficient additional context to link those evidences together. Secondly, I don't see how the storm caused the collapse of 2 timelines either, since this part doesn't seem to have a scan supporting it, nor can I find appealing evidences in any previous passages of the section that can support the logic. I'm unsure how this image by itself is suppose to tell me that the storm contains any space-time constructures in it, or how this elucidation is supposed to be correlated or proved by this image you apparently meant to use as the validating attribution. The most I can deduce about the storm from the information substantiated by scans, is that it exists and wrecks havoc across multiple timelines, which doesn't necessarily give it tier 2 rating, but rather a multiversal and interdimensional range rating at best.

It can be better if you provide more context linking scans, such as gameplay videos, cutscenes or anything that explains the storm is something needed to be quelled by merging 2 timelines, contains timelines in it itself, or causes collapse of timelines. But currently, I don't really see it.
 
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GarrixianXD said:
2-A cosmology is fine.

As for the scaling, there's quite a handful of issues. Firstly, I don't exactly see how the storm is remotely a tier 2 structure or phenomenon by the scans shown, as I see a lack of context being linked between the pieces of evidences. Such as how this description of Max being able to extricate people from mind control and another scan of her combining something, which you claim to be timelines, doesn't really tell me how any of that connects to the storm expanding into different universes, since there isn't sufficient additional context to link those evidences together.
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I mean, I feel like the scans shown were already pretty sufficient in terms of proof. It's very much visible by the two color streams swirling around in the Storm, which represent the "Dead" and "Living" timeline (reference to Schrödinger's cat) coming together and uniting themselves in the Storm, since both are timelines then that obviously implies that the Storm is a Tier 2 structure, as it contains both. It's also visible by the Two Moons, which we also saw in the Original Game. The Storm also clearly expands its influence throughout all the emerging timelines unwillingly created by Max, as seen by the meteorological phenomenons which I mentioned, all representative of the Storm's forecoming. Basically, every timeline that isn't supposed to exist ends up being severely impacted by the Storm, and the only way to prevent the Storm from happening is to either time travel to the moment where the timelines branched, and make a different decision or to merge the two (or more) emerging timelines together. The first option was done in the Original game, and the second was done in the Newest one.
GarrixianXD said:
Secondly, I don't see how the storm caused the collapse of 2 timelines either, since this part doesn't seem to have a scan supporting it, nor can I find appealing evidences in any previous passages of the section that can support the logic. I'm unsure how this image by itself is suppose to tell me that the storm contains any space-time constructures in it
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The collapse was assumed, as it is pretty blatant. You can see here, that the two timelines exist together in the Storm but in an undefined state (the grey circle titled [???]) usually, the two circles are opposites. This is again proven by when they are merged, they form one singular circle, but this time it's white and titled [Combined]. If this isn't clear proof that the Storm contains two timelines that are parasitic to each other then idk what it is.
GarrixianXD said:
or how this elucidation is supposed to be correlated or proved by this image you apparently meant to use as the validating attribution.
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That was simply decorative, but if you seized the context of the original game then you'd understand why I used it as evidence after everything I've already said in the blog. Max provoked the emergence of about 7 timelines in the original game, in Double Exposure she provoked the emergence of a single new one, and in that new one, a Storm appeared. If we follow a certain logic and consistency, several Storms should appear in the 7 timelines Max created in LIS, and that is proven by the appearance of the weird meteorological phenomenons in each timeline, we only got to see one Storm because Max obviously couldn't be at 7 places at the same time.

If you want more context on the whole "merging/fusing" situation, you can start watching here, normally it should be understandable.
 
GarrixianXD said:
2-A cosmology is fine.

As for the scaling, there's quite a handful of issues. Firstly, I don't exactly see how the storm is remotely a tier 2 structure or phenomenon by the scans shown, as I see a lack of context being linked between the pieces of evidences.
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I already said this before when this ideia was first made in another thread but this blog is confusing and contains unnecessary stuff so it does not suprise me that someone who is not really knowledged on the verse can't follow it. The evidence is there just not in an organized way.
GarrixianXD said:
Such as how this description of Max being able to extricate people from mind control and another scan of her combining something, which you claim to be timelines, doesn't really tell me how any of that connects to the storm expanding into different universes, since there isn't sufficient additional context to link those evidences together.
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That scan doesn't really mean anything for the cosmology or the storm it's a power that Max can use.
GarrixianXD said:
Secondly, I don't see how the storm caused the collapse of 2 timelines either
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The storm doesn't cause the timelines to collapse. The storm is the timelines collapsing, the storm we see in the real world is just a manifestation
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This video here shows Max physically entering the Storm.
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GarrixianXD said:
, since this part doesn't seem to have a scan supporting it,
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In the end of the game the 2 timelines that were collapsing are completely fused into one, it's not really direct influence of Max but more of a Max made it happen by "somehow fixing the storm", it's unclear really.
GarrixianXD said:
nor can I find appealing evidences in any previous passages of the section that can support the logic. I'm unsure how this image by itself is suppose to tell me that the storm contains any space-time constructures in it
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I don't think that's supposed to be an image it should be a gif/small video
This small video shows Max using her powers to switch dimensions inside the storm proving that there must be 2 universes inside the storm, not just universes but the 2 timelines which is the whole focus of the game, there are multiple scenes of Max inside the storm where she is seeing some of her past stuff
GarrixianXD said:
, or how this elucidation is supposed to be correlated or proved by this image you apparently meant to use as the validating attribution.
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It isn't, the image is really not significant, the reason why the Storm should be the "nexus where all the timelines created by Max eventually converge" is because when Max goes inside the Storm we see events of what happened in all timelines that Max created with her time travel powers, in double exposure specifically in the video that I showed before that one of the people there has the memories of both timelines.
GarrixianXD said:
The most I can deduce about the storm from the information substantiated by scans, is that it exists and wrecks havoc across multiple timelines, which doesn't necessarily give it tier 2 rating, but rather a multiversal and interdimensional range rating at best.

It can be better if you provide more context linking scans, such as gameplay videos, cutscenes or anything that explains the storm is something needed to be quelled by merging 2 timelines, contains timelines in it itself, or causes collapse of timelines. But currently, I don't really see it.
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Yeah I understand why it's so hard the blog is a mess but it is indeed hard to explain in words for someone who doesn't really already know the verse, and most of the stuff is implied because this game doesn't really go much into the science part. You would probably have to watch an entire chapter of over 2 hour to really understand which obviously is way too big to just post here.
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
I already said this before when this ideia was first made in another thread but this blog is confusing and contains unnecessary stuff so it does not suprise me that someone who is not really knowledged on the verse can't follow it. The evidence is there just not in an organized way.

Yeah I understand why it's so hard the blog is a mess
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Could have been a bit nicer.
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
I already said this before when this ideia was first made in another thread but this blog is confusing and contains unnecessary stuff so it does not suprise me that someone who is not really knowledged on the verse can't follow it. The evidence is there just not in an organized way.

That scan doesn't really mean anything for the cosmology or the storm it's a power that Max can use.

The storm doesn't cause the timelines to collapse. The storm is the timelines collapsing, the storm we see in the real world is just a manifestation

This video here shows Max physically entering the Storm.


In the end of the game the 2 timelines that were collapsing are completely fused into one, it's not really direct influence of Max but more of a Max made it happen by "somehow fixing the storm", it's unclear really.

I don't think that's supposed to be an image it should be a gif/small video
This small video shows Max using her powers to switch dimensions inside the storm proving that there must be 2 universes inside the storm, not just universes but the 2 timelines which is the whole focus of the game, there are multiple scenes of Max inside the storm where she is seeing some of her past stuff

It isn't, the image is really not significant, the reason why the Storm should be the "nexus where all the timelines created by Max eventually converge" is because when Max goes inside the Storm we see events of what happened in all timelines that Max created with her time travel powers, in double exposure specifically in the video that I showed before that one of the people there has the memories of both timelines.

Yeah I understand why it's so hard the blog is a mess but it is indeed hard to explain in words for someone who doesn't really already know the verse, and most of the stuff is implied because this game doesn't really go much into the science part. You would probably have to watch an entire chapter of over 2 hour to really understand which obviously is way too big to just post here.
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Well, if you think you can do better then show it. This is VS Battles, we talk evidence and sufficient context here.
 
There is no need to come at each other’s throats, I tried my best to add necessary context to my claims without writing the whole script of the game down. I can definitely get that it’s a complicated situation to fully grasp if you haven’t played the latest game, that’s why I made a dedicated part of the blog explaining why the Storm would be a Tier 2 structure. If it’s still foggy perhaps we can wait for staff that might be more knowledgeable on the case.
 
GarrixianXD said:
Well, if you think you can do better then show it. This is VS Battles, we talk evidence and sufficient context here.
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Just to let clear the evidence it's in the blog, I don't really have much to add there. My problem with it, is about organization, and if this blog is something to be added as an official cosmology blog it won't do. I'm willing to make it better version which would take some time as I'm busy, but I'm not gonna lose time on this if the arguments aren't accepted in the first place.
 
This wasn’t even supposed to be a cosmology blog in the first place as a matter of fact, that’s why the format is a mess.
 
Scarletjet said:
Bump

Really? You made a blog in a thread called "Life is strange cosmology".
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Yeah because I just wanted a quick upgrade for Max by explaining she was the one who made the whole cosmology, turns out it doesn’t work that way 🌚 so she doesn’t even scale to the cosmology itself.
 
Hixkaryana said:
Yeah because I just wanted a quick upgrade for Max by explaining she was the one who made the whole cosmology, turns out it doesn’t work that way 🌚 so she doesn’t even scale to the cosmology itself.
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Perhaps I can help out a bit more I’m pretty sure she can be 2-C without thinking too much about it
 
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