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Okay. Wall level twd is as damned and complicated thing as the verse itself. But since this tv series is still alive and it will continue, I think it's time to finally figure out power level of this verse.
So. There was one feat in Daryl Dixon's season 2. It was calculated second in this calc blog (not evaluated)
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Scene of feat
123kj for Daryl durability and Losang AP
This is Post Timeskip Daryl, what kind of problems might araise if upgrade him to wall level?
Answer to question: Negan
Oh yeah. Negan is the connecting bridge between Pre-Timeskip and Post-Timeskip
The fact is that Post-Timeskip Negan withstood blows from Carver and Daryl.
And logically it can be understood that Pre-Timeskip prime Negan>Post-Timeskip Negan. (I will not describe and write much in this thread, because those who know scaling in twd and so will understand everything)
So Pre-Timeskip Negan scales to 123kj and he traded blows with Pre CRM Rick, Pre CRM Rick fight with Post-Timeskip Daryl, Governor->Merle->and Glenn can harm Merle with a headbutt and so on...
Well, as you can understand, this creates a power scaling chain that returns almost all twd characters to wall level. Since we have already come to conclusion that twd characters are not wall level+for 11 seasons, even strongest characters have accumulated enough anti feats, here's what I suggest:
(In fact, this very simple action will solve all the current problems with power scaling)
Add a new key to Daryl's profile
So I'll be honest and say that events of Daryl Dixon's season 1 do not take place after a very long timeskip, if you rely on the fandom wiki (where you can find an explanation of entire TWD verse timeline), then it says that events take place a few weeks after end of season 11. But let's be clear about something. On TWD main page, I explained that some twd characters become stronger over time. And this is a fact. If you compare Daryl from Pre Timeskip and Daryl from Post-Timeskip, it will be obvious that Daryl from Post-Timeskip, (who can fight against trained military and killers Reapers and slightly fight back against Beta) is much more stronger. Michonne, who can fight against trained soldiers and survive after explosions in spin-off is stronger than her version from main series. So why doesn't Daryl get a little stronger in these few weeks? It's just that characters of twd constantly have to be in condition of survival, battles, murders, and every day they become more experienced and maybe stronger. In addition, please pay attention to this scene:
Daryl just literally enters in (John Wick) mode and kills a dozens of opponents. I believe that he did not show such a level even in Post-Timeskip. I suggest that keys in Daryl's profile look like this:
Pre-Timeskip | Post-Timeskip | Daryl Dixon (spin-off)
Only spin off Daryl and Codron (who traded blows with him) become Wall level.
New ability that Daryl could have in spin-off: Limited Statistics Amplification
1. In ship scene from Daryl Dixon season 1, after being beaten and in bad condition, at one point he was able to kill several people.
2. In Daryl Dixon season 2 episode 4 after another beating while in captivity (In Season 2 episode 3) as soon as he was released by a random dude immediately rushed into battle, easily killing Power of the Living people and serum walkers
https://youtu.be/nZ3lvWuT0e4?si=hMrzfM7tzaoqhl3b
3. In Daryl Dixon season 2 episode 6 Daryl and Carol with couple enter in tunnel where psychoactive effects of bats guano cause everyone to hallucinate. Later, that couple betrays Daryl and Carol and man attacks Daryl and takes gas mask from him. Daryl had already inhaled this psychotropic substance before. Being in weakened state, he sees a hallucination of Isabelle who tells him not to give up and get up, and Daryl sharply attacks and kills man with girl.
Maybe these feats of stamina. But I think that in these feats is something of Statistics Amplification
Final suggestions:
1. Add new key in Daryl profile
2. Upgrade 3th key Daryl and Codron to wall level
3. Add limited or minor Statictics amplification in abilities of Daryl (in 3th key)
EDIT
Okay so calc of Losang AP and Daryl durability was recalculated and accepted
vsbattles.fandom.com
10,93 KJ Street level+ (still 9-C TWD, but I think it's even for the best now)
But the 3th key for Daryl still makes sense for the reasons I mentioned above. And let's think logically, Daryl Dixon is already a separate series. Season 3 is being filmed and there are already rumors about season 4. Apart from the fact that over these 4 or who knows how many seasons, enough time will pass during te twd verse timeline and characters themselves will evolve (and possibly gain new abilities, stasts, AP, speed, durability feats). I think it would be stupid not to create a 3th key for Daryl and his version from season 9 post timeskip will run until his spin-off and beyond? It's not very good for me (well, again, read text about Daryl's power in the spin-off that I described above)
Edit: Since recently glass breaking calculations by new formula with high results was rejected. And now walkers need some kind of 9-C feat which will be scales to strongest walker individuals. I would like to draw attention to this feat. A walker splits a door in half
youtu.be
(Video is crappy because feat starts right away and therefore it may seem like it's not a feat)
This scene just starts earlier. And on the left you can see a door that a walker split in half
Youtube link
youtu.be
Vs battles link
vsbattles.fandom.com
At first I thought it might be 9-B, but later.. (watch Vzearr comment)
vsbattles.fandom.com
3048 joules for strongest walkers (skull crushing zone). Okay...
And about statistics amplification. I realized that these scenes with Daryl are more suitable for Supernatural Willpower.
Again:
Ship scene (Daryl Dixon season 1 episode 5)
Daryl was captured by the people of Power of the Living and placed on a ship that was heading to France. Daryl was placed in a cage like other people and they were gradually fed to walkers. So Daryl apparently caught some kind of illness or just became weakened due to the fact that they were not fed. (And no, it wasn't his plan to pretend to be weakened in order to escape, because at the beginning you can see him coughing up blood and later warden kicks him). So weakened Daryl is dragged to be fed to walkers and it would seem that this its over. But at the last moment, Daryl, despite being in a weakened state, kills several people.
youtu.be
Tunnel scene (Daryl Dixon season 2 episode 6 ending)
Daryl, Codron and Carol with couple Angus and Fionna enter in tunnel where psychoactive effects of bats guano cause everyone to hallucinate. Carol sees her dead daughter Sophia. Codron sees his dead brother. These hallucinogens also have a harmful effect on the group and a gas mask is needed to survive and not lose your mind. Later, that couple betrays Daryl and Carol and Angus attacks Daryl and takes gas mask from him. Daryl had already inhaled this psychotropic substance before. Being in weakened state, he sees a hallucination of Isabelle who tells him not to give up and get up, and Daryl sharply attacks and kills Angus with Fionna.
Youtube link
youtu.be
Vs battles link
vsbattles.fandom.com
Release from imprisonment (season 2 episode 4)
Losang with Union of Hope captured Daryl and Isabelle and beats them up in previous episode 3 season 2. Later weakened Daryl was released by a random dude and immediately rushed into battle, easily killing Power of the Living people and serum walkers.
youtu.be
Referring to text of description of the Supernatural Willpower ability:
This ability should only be given to characters that have explicitly displayed far beyond human levels of mental endurance.
Characters with this ability may be able to resist enormous amounts of pain, act even when unconscious or well beyond what they should be able to endure
1. Daryl, despite his weakened state, could not accept that he would be fed to walkers and forcibly escaped from captivity on the ship.
2. Daryl, despite inhaling hallucinogens, was beaten and pierced by a Codron and hit in head with a shovel, was able to stand up and fight
3. After being imprisoned and beaten (season 2 episode 3), he immediately rushed into battle as soon as he was released.
I thinking that 3th key Daryl should have Supernatural Willpower (maybe minor or limited?)
Final suggestions
1. Add a new 3th key in Daryl profile
2. Upgrade Codron and 3th key Daryl to street level+ 10,93 KJ
3. Add to 3th key Daryl Supernatural Willpower
4. Downgrade walkers from 9-C+ to 9-C
So. There was one feat in Daryl Dixon's season 2. It was calculated second in this calc blog (not evaluated)
TWD Daryl Show: Daryl breaks some things
vsbattles.fandom.com
Scene of feat
123kj for Daryl durability and Losang AP
This is Post Timeskip Daryl, what kind of problems might araise if upgrade him to wall level?
Answer to question: Negan
Oh yeah. Negan is the connecting bridge between Pre-Timeskip and Post-Timeskip
The fact is that Post-Timeskip Negan withstood blows from Carver and Daryl.
And logically it can be understood that Pre-Timeskip prime Negan>Post-Timeskip Negan. (I will not describe and write much in this thread, because those who know scaling in twd and so will understand everything)
So Pre-Timeskip Negan scales to 123kj and he traded blows with Pre CRM Rick, Pre CRM Rick fight with Post-Timeskip Daryl, Governor->Merle->and Glenn can harm Merle with a headbutt and so on...
Well, as you can understand, this creates a power scaling chain that returns almost all twd characters to wall level. Since we have already come to conclusion that twd characters are not wall level+for 11 seasons, even strongest characters have accumulated enough anti feats, here's what I suggest:
(In fact, this very simple action will solve all the current problems with power scaling)
Add a new key to Daryl's profile
So I'll be honest and say that events of Daryl Dixon's season 1 do not take place after a very long timeskip, if you rely on the fandom wiki (where you can find an explanation of entire TWD verse timeline), then it says that events take place a few weeks after end of season 11. But let's be clear about something. On TWD main page, I explained that some twd characters become stronger over time. And this is a fact. If you compare Daryl from Pre Timeskip and Daryl from Post-Timeskip, it will be obvious that Daryl from Post-Timeskip, (who can fight against trained military and killers Reapers and slightly fight back against Beta) is much more stronger. Michonne, who can fight against trained soldiers and survive after explosions in spin-off is stronger than her version from main series. So why doesn't Daryl get a little stronger in these few weeks? It's just that characters of twd constantly have to be in condition of survival, battles, murders, and every day they become more experienced and maybe stronger. In addition, please pay attention to this scene:
Daryl just literally enters in (John Wick) mode and kills a dozens of opponents. I believe that he did not show such a level even in Post-Timeskip. I suggest that keys in Daryl's profile look like this:
Pre-Timeskip | Post-Timeskip | Daryl Dixon (spin-off)
Only spin off Daryl and Codron (who traded blows with him) become Wall level.
New ability that Daryl could have in spin-off: Limited Statistics Amplification
1. In ship scene from Daryl Dixon season 1, after being beaten and in bad condition, at one point he was able to kill several people.
2. In Daryl Dixon season 2 episode 4 after another beating while in captivity (In Season 2 episode 3) as soon as he was released by a random dude immediately rushed into battle, easily killing Power of the Living people and serum walkers
https://youtu.be/nZ3lvWuT0e4?si=hMrzfM7tzaoqhl3b
3. In Daryl Dixon season 2 episode 6 Daryl and Carol with couple enter in tunnel where psychoactive effects of bats guano cause everyone to hallucinate. Later, that couple betrays Daryl and Carol and man attacks Daryl and takes gas mask from him. Daryl had already inhaled this psychotropic substance before. Being in weakened state, he sees a hallucination of Isabelle who tells him not to give up and get up, and Daryl sharply attacks and kills man with girl.
Maybe these feats of stamina. But I think that in these feats is something of Statistics Amplification
Final suggestions:
1. Add new key in Daryl profile
2. Upgrade 3th key Daryl and Codron to wall level
3. Add limited or minor Statictics amplification in abilities of Daryl (in 3th key)
EDIT
Okay so calc of Losang AP and Daryl durability was recalculated and accepted
The Walking Dead (Re)Calc: Daryl Slams Into Stone Cross
vsbattles.fandom.com
10,93 KJ Street level+ (still 9-C TWD, but I think it's even for the best now)
But the 3th key for Daryl still makes sense for the reasons I mentioned above. And let's think logically, Daryl Dixon is already a separate series. Season 3 is being filmed and there are already rumors about season 4. Apart from the fact that over these 4 or who knows how many seasons, enough time will pass during te twd verse timeline and characters themselves will evolve (and possibly gain new abilities, stasts, AP, speed, durability feats). I think it would be stupid not to create a 3th key for Daryl and his version from season 9 post timeskip will run until his spin-off and beyond? It's not very good for me (well, again, read text about Daryl's power in the spin-off that I described above)
Edit: Since recently glass breaking calculations by new formula with high results was rejected. And now walkers need some kind of 9-C feat which will be scales to strongest walker individuals. I would like to draw attention to this feat. A walker splits a door in half
The Walking Dead S11E16 - Daryl and Commonwealth Soldiers
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youtu.be
(Video is crappy because feat starts right away and therefore it may seem like it's not a feat)
This scene just starts earlier. And on the left you can see a door that a walker split in half
Youtube link
TWD season 11
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Vs battles link
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At first I thought it might be 9-B, but later.. (watch Vzearr comment)
Common feat: Splitting a Door in Half
vsbattles.fandom.com
3048 joules for strongest walkers (skull crushing zone). Okay...
And about statistics amplification. I realized that these scenes with Daryl are more suitable for Supernatural Willpower.
Again:
Ship scene (Daryl Dixon season 1 episode 5)
Daryl was captured by the people of Power of the Living and placed on a ship that was heading to France. Daryl was placed in a cage like other people and they were gradually fed to walkers. So Daryl apparently caught some kind of illness or just became weakened due to the fact that they were not fed. (And no, it wasn't his plan to pretend to be weakened in order to escape, because at the beginning you can see him coughing up blood and later warden kicks him). So weakened Daryl is dragged to be fed to walkers and it would seem that this its over. But at the last moment, Daryl, despite being in a weakened state, kills several people.
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Tunnel scene (Daryl Dixon season 2 episode 6 ending)
Daryl, Codron and Carol with couple Angus and Fionna enter in tunnel where psychoactive effects of bats guano cause everyone to hallucinate. Carol sees her dead daughter Sophia. Codron sees his dead brother. These hallucinogens also have a harmful effect on the group and a gas mask is needed to survive and not lose your mind. Later, that couple betrays Daryl and Carol and Angus attacks Daryl and takes gas mask from him. Daryl had already inhaled this psychotropic substance before. Being in weakened state, he sees a hallucination of Isabelle who tells him not to give up and get up, and Daryl sharply attacks and kills Angus with Fionna.
Youtube link
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Vs battles link
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Release from imprisonment (season 2 episode 4)
Losang with Union of Hope captured Daryl and Isabelle and beats them up in previous episode 3 season 2. Later weakened Daryl was released by a random dude and immediately rushed into battle, easily killing Power of the Living people and serum walkers.
- YouTube
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Referring to text of description of the Supernatural Willpower ability:
This ability should only be given to characters that have explicitly displayed far beyond human levels of mental endurance.
Characters with this ability may be able to resist enormous amounts of pain, act even when unconscious or well beyond what they should be able to endure
1. Daryl, despite his weakened state, could not accept that he would be fed to walkers and forcibly escaped from captivity on the ship.
2. Daryl, despite inhaling hallucinogens, was beaten and pierced by a Codron and hit in head with a shovel, was able to stand up and fight
3. After being imprisoned and beaten (season 2 episode 3), he immediately rushed into battle as soon as he was released.
I thinking that 3th key Daryl should have Supernatural Willpower (maybe minor or limited?)
Final suggestions
1. Add a new 3th key in Daryl profile
2. Upgrade Codron and 3th key Daryl to street level+ 10,93 KJ
3. Add to 3th key Daryl Supernatural Willpower
4. Downgrade walkers from 9-C+ to 9-C
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