IDW Transformers Upgrade

[SpookyGunShip]

Introduction​

This thread will explain an upgrade for dvoid and the characters that scale to it.

Galvatron calls it a threat to the multiverse​

Optimus destroys the dvoid with the matrix.​

Megatron greatly injuries the dvoid, proven by galvatron.​

Dvoid is a personification of the dead universe.​

 

[That_moron2]

This should be in CRTs

 

[Demon_Lord18]

I will request that this be moved to the correct place.

 

[SpookyGunShip]

Bump

 

[SpookyGunShip]

Bump

 

[Drite77]

Alright, this is a no '-'

You're not cross scaling Transformers with Marvel, I am pretty sure this is against the rules here... and even then hardly anyone would agree, but even if that was possible, how is the ROM from the first Marvel Comics the same as the ROM in IDW? It is very likely to be a new character all together just like Transformers

Another point: Just because Dvoid was going to absorb Vector Sigma, doesn't mean he is as strong as Vector Sigma, that is just flawed, also the fact it would take minutes for Dvoid to do it would likely be another proof it doesn't scale to Vector Sigma at all

 

[LordTracer]

Putting aside the fact that cross-scaling like this is not allowed, Rom in Marvel Comics is not the same as Rom in IDW. In fact, Marvel!Rom died in a comic from 2000 while the IDW continuity didn’t even start until 2005.

 

[SpookyGunShip]

Putting aside the fact that cross-scaling like this is not allowed, Rom in Marvel Comics is not the same as Rom in IDW. In fact, Marvel!Rom died in a comic from 2000 while the IDW continuity didn’t even start until 2005.

I updated it so it makes more sense.

 

[Drite77]

I'm busy, but that still doesn't work

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Primus was around before the creation of the multiverse. Later he ends up becoming vector sigma.

Idk if you actually read the story because they literally reveal that

1. Primus is Rung all along.

2. Unicron is actually born from the dead world of Antilla.

Megatron greatly injuries the dvoid, proven by galvatron.

Megatron only damaged the D-Void, which was an avatar and one of its connections to the main universe. He's never directly fought the main D-Void itself.

 

[SpookyGunShip]

Idk if you actually read the story because they literally reveal that

1. Primus is Rung all along.

2. Unicron is actually born from the dead world of Antilla.

Where is this revealed?

Megatron only damaged the D-Void, which was an avatar and one of its connections to the main universe. He's never directly fought the main D-Void itself.

It's literally explained that the d-void suffered a massive injury after megatron blasted the deceptigod.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Where is this revealed?

Transformers Unicron. The same story where the scan comes from?

Like I don't wanna come off as mean, but did you actually read the comic arc or did you pull this scan from the internet?

It's literally explained that the d-void suffered a massive injury after megatron blasted the deceptigod

And again, the Decepti-God is an avatar, not the actual D-Void. It merely lost one of its biggest connections to the main universe.

Furthermore, it being the actual D-Void makes no narrative sense as they were actively trying to prevent the D-Void entering the universe to begin with.

 

[SpookyGunShip]

Transformers Unicron. The same story where the scan comes from?

Like I don't wanna come off as mean, but did you actually read the comic arc or did you pull this scan from the internet?

They must not be the same because the originals predated the universe and primus became cybertron while unicron died. (The lost light writers are pretty bad)

And again, the Decepti-God is an avatar, not the actual D-Void. It merely lost one of its biggest connections to the main universe.

Furthermore, it being the actual D-Void makes no narrative sense as they were actively trying to prevent the D-Void entering the universe to begin with.

And again, they're connected, as proven by galvatron. D-void also already had ways to enter the universe (hello, heart of darkness and portals)

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

They must not be the same because the originals predated the universe and primus became cybertron while unicron died. (The lost light writers are pretty bad)

It's only a myth stated by Optimus, who at the time wasn't fully aware of Cybertron's full history. The comic literally shows us their actual origins.

And again, they're connected, as proven by galvatron. D-void also already had ways to enter the universe (hello, heart of darkness and portals)

And again, that isn't the main D-Void. The D-Void's whole scheme during Chaos Theory was it was tricking Galvatron into blowing up Cybertron so it itself could enter the main universe. If it could enter the main universe in any other way, the plot of Chaos Theory wouldn't even happen to begin with.

The heart of darkness is simply another conduit, not the main D-Void itself.

 

[SpookyGunShip]

It's only a myth stated by Optimus, who at the time wasn't fully aware of Cybertron's full history. The comic literally shows us their actual origins.

Vector Prime confirms it's real, and they're not the same, they just share similar traits.

And again, that isn't the main D-Void. The D-Void's whole scheme during Chaos Theory was it was tricking Galvatron into blowing up Cybertron so it itself could enter the main universe. If it could enter the main universe in any other way, the plot of Chaos Theory wouldn't even happen to begin with.

The heart of darkness is simply another conduit, not the main D-Void itself.

I know it isn't, but they're connected. Galvatron right out says the d-void suffered a massive injury. Even if you don't buy it, dvoid was a threat to the multiverse, also stated by Galvatron. Nova prime had control over the dead universe, and optimus defeated him.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Vector Prime confirms it's real, and they're not the same, they just share similar traits.


I know it isn't, but they're connected. Galvatron right out says the d-void suffered a massive injury. Even if you don't buy it, dvoid was a threat to the multiverse, also stated by Galvatron. Nova prime had control over the dead universe, and optimus defeated him.

The AVP tumblr isn't canon at all. It's not officially licensed bye Hasbro.

They're connected only telepathically. Not physically.

As for Nova, his feat is only 4-A since the dead universe was shrinking. The more the universe shrank the more control he had over it. Plus, he never even uses his reality warping for any actual combat purposes so it legitimately scaling to his stats is very iffy.

 

[SpookyGunShip]

They're connected only telepathically. Not physically.

Dvoid was still massively injured.

As for Nova, his feat is only 4-A since the dead universe was shrinking. The more the universe shrank the more control he had over it. Plus, he never even uses his reality warping for any actual combat purposes so it legitimately scaling to his stats is very iffy.

That was a side affect he exploited to gain full control. He also uses his reality warping to put Optimus in a box which he cracks.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Dvoid was still massively injured.

And again, it wasn't the actual D-Void, just an avatar. The story itself makes that very clear.

That was a side affect he exploited to gain full control. He also uses his reality warping to put Optimus in a box which he cracks

Like I said. Those aren't for combat related purposes. He never actually uses his reality warping abilities to harm anyone.

 

[SpookyGunShip]

And again, it wasn't the actual D-Void, just an avatar. The story itself makes that very clear.

And again, how does this contradict my statement?

Like I said. Those aren't for combat related purposes. He never actually uses his reality warping abilities to harm anyone.

But it involves combat mechanics, offensive/defensive tactics.

Also, the myth is true. They just lost memories of their true selfs and adopted new identities, blending in with the others.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

And again, how does this contradict my statement

Because they're two entirely separate bodies? The Decepti-God is just an avatar the D-Void controls remotely. I don't know what's so hard for you to understand here.

Megatron harming the D-Void is literally impossible by the story's plot because the whole crisis is related to preventing the D-Void from entering the main universe to begin with.

But it involves combat mechanics, offensive/defensive tactics.

He literally never uses it for combat purposes within the story. The closest he does is him using it to shape shift to change his looks, but beyond that, he's never done such a thing.

Also, the myth is true. They just lost memories of their true selfs and adopted new identities, blending in with the others.

You're not posting the full context

Guys like Rung was never a warrior God like the myths showed, nor did he fight Unicron. That, and we are literally shown what Unicron's actually origin was, with him being born many years after the guiding hand was brainwashed.