Killua vs Black☆Star

[Robo432343]

Both 9-A
SBA

Killua Zoldyck

"We were confident. We thought we put in the effort. We practiced until we coughed up blood. We perfected our combo moves. We failed because we were ignorant... of the existence of prodigies beyond our imagination. Here was someone who was born to be a first-rate hunter. It's as if we were...

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Black☆Star

Black☆Star (ブラック☆スター, Burakku☆Sutā?) is one of the main Meisters that the series Soul Eater follows. Black☆Star is one of the few survivors of the infamous Star Clan, with the other being Akane☆Hoshi. Which explains why Black☆Star has a star mark on his shoulder. His Demon Weapon partner is...

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[Robo432343]

@Fezzih_007 i see you

 

[Nonynho]

hey, glad to see you posting
hope this one gets alright

 

[Fezzih_007]

@Fezzih_007 i see you

Tch, okay.


Ehhhhhh, Black☆Star stomp, he have the AP, skill, and versatilty advantage.
I don't think Killua can actually Win.

 

[Robo432343]

Tch, okay.
he have the AP, skill, and versatilty advantage.
I don't think Killua can actually Win.

what no
Killua has the skill and versatility
blackstar has ap

 

[Fezzih_007]

Killua has the skill and versatility

Not in this key, Killua gonna get overwhelm with Black☆Star and Tsunami weapons. His Nen is not fully developed in this stage.

Trought actually, is not a stomp Killua could Win. But Black☆Star AP advantage would be probally too much.

 

[Robo432343]

Not in this key, Killua gonna get overwhelm with Black☆Star and Tsunami weapons. His Nen is not fully developed in this stage.

Trought actually, is not a stomp Killua could Win. But Black☆Star AP advantage would be probally too much.

i dont think skill matters much because both are genius in combat anyway

but killua can knock people out with just slight grazes to the neck
that is pressure point bs

 

[Robo432343]

I'd give the skill edge to killua coz of pressure points icl

 

[Fezzih_007]

Speed is not equal actually, Killua then blitz Black☆Star and break his neck with superior LS.

 

[Robo432343]

Speed is not equal actually, Killua then blitz Black☆Star and break his neck with superior LS.

but a 1.85x speed advantage is not a blitz

 

[Fezzih_007]

but a 1.85x speed advantage is not a blitz

I think Killua upscale that with Assasin mode.

Trought probally not a blitz then, more like "way faster that Black☆Star could avoid more than often"
Killua is a Assasin so he can steath behind Black☆Star before he can react and break his neck.

I voting Killua.

 

[Kachon123]

I think Killua upscale that with Assasin mode.

Trought probally not a blitz then, more like "way faster that Black☆Star could avoid more than often"
Killua is a Assasin so he can steath behind Black☆Star before he can react and break his neck.

I voting Killua.

Well Black Star also scales higher than his base speed with Speed Star which would allow him to close that gap again. I don't think speed will be a major factor in this matchup, especially not one big enough to make it got from a stomp to a decisive win.

 

[Robo432343]

Soul Manipulation (Can use his own soul wavelength to directly attack one's soul, while dealing damage to that person's internal organs),
this will be scary for killua

 

[Fezzih_007]

Well Black Star also scales higher than his base speed with Speed Star which would allow him to close that gap again. I don't think speed will be a major factor in this matchup, especially not one big enough to make it got from a stomp to a decisive win.

Well, os not just speed, is also the fact that Killua can use Steath to kill Black☆Star before he can react.

 

[MintyBoi1]

Black☆Star has multiple stat amps and good skill in stealth even if it’s for some reason not on his profile when it’s listed in his weaknesses that he’s good at stealth. Combine that with AP advantage and his versatility from all of his weapons, I think even with a possible skill advantage, Killua will be overwhelmed. Masamune gives Black☆Star a good power boost plus he can attack Killua with his shadows. Plus one Black☆Star Big Wave and it’s over.

Leaning Black☆Star.

 

[Robo432343]

Black☆Star has multiple stat amps and good skill in stealth even if it’s for some reason not on his profile when it’s listed in his weaknesses that he’s good at stealth. Combine that with AP advantage and his versatility from all of his weapons, I think even with a possible skill advantage, Killua will be overwhelmed. Masamune gives Black☆Star a good power boost plus he can attack Killua with his shadows. Plus one Black☆Star Big Wave and it’s over.

Leaning Black☆Star.

But if killua gets a slight graze on stars neck it’s all over

 

[MintyBoi1]

But if killua gets a slight graze on stars neck it’s all over

I don’t know about that. Black☆Star’s willpower let him take multiple knock out blows from Kid and keep going. Plus it’d be hard to hit his pressure points when Black☆Star has better range and speed amps that let him fly past opponents that were on his level previously.

 

[MintyBoi1]

I’m just gonna vote Black☆Star. AP, versatility, and counters to Killua’s win cons should let him win.

 

[Robo432343]

I don’t know about that. Black☆Star’s willpower let him take multiple knock out blows from Kid and keep going.

But that was not his pressure points that’s the problem

Plus it’d be hard to hit his pressure points when Black☆Star has better range and speed amps that

Blackstar having speed amps is not really that important if Killua is the faster character
Killua is faster by 1.8x and it’s up to black star to close that gap

 

[Fezzih_007]

I don’t know about that. Black☆Star’s willpower let him take multiple knock out blows from Kid and keep going. Plus it’d be hard to hit his pressure points when Black☆Star has better range and speed amps that let him fly past opponents that were on his level previously.

The actual argument is that Killua gonna snap Black☆Star’s neck, not use knock out blows.

 

[Kachon123]

But that was not his pressure points that’s the problem

All of Death the Kid's attacks hit the back of the head, which is a pressure point.

 

[MintyBoi1]

The actual argument is that Killua gonna snap Black☆Star’s neck, not use knock out blows.

How though? Black Star can make himself blitz speeds, Killua just has an unspecified amp with assassin mode. Tsubaki can also turn into a clone of Black Star like against Mifune. That move can trick analytical fighters and let him hit them with Soul Menace.

 

[Robo432343]

All of Death the Kid's attacks hit the back of the head, which is a pressure point.

so everyone has pressure points

 

[Kachon123]

logical fallacy

 

[Robo432343]

logical fallacy

this is a fallacy fallacy

 

[Kachon123]

Anyways, voting Black Star because he superior AP and good enough skill to combat Killua.

 

[Fezzih_007]

How though?

I kinda already said before, Killua could use his steath and since he already start faster, he can get Black☆Star before he react while in steath.

Trought I think Black☆Star win more often than not, since I forgot the other stuff that he can do.

so everyone has pressure points

Robo, If you gonna say nonsense, don't even type please.

 

[MintyBoi1]

I kinda already said before, Killua could use his steath and since he already start faster, he can get Black☆Star before he react while in steath.

Trought I think Black☆Star win more often than not, since I forgot the other stuff that he can do.

Robo, If you gonna say nonsense, don't even type please.

Black Star is a ninja and has used stealth in fights as well. The only reason it’s not as prevalent for him is his showoffishness. He should be able to stop any sneak attacks from Killua. And the speed gap isn’t even that big. But yeah, agree he wins more often.

 

[MintyBoi1]

Hey man.
if you think someone has pressure points for just smacking someone in the back of the head then by my guest

The thing is though Kid specially targeted the neck to end the fight quickly. He only attacked there.

 

[Robo432343]

The thing is though Kid specially targeted the neck to end the fight quickly. He only attacked there.

the way Killua targets the neck is completely different the way kid did it

 

[Fezzih_007]

Black Star is a ninja and has used stealth in fights as well. The only reason it’s not as prevalent for him is his showoffishness. He should be able to stop any sneak attacks from Killua.

I pretty sure Killua is way better to be honest, his Zetsu would make him complety undectable. He use Hatsu in front of Leorio, and he trought he was transparent.

He still probally gets overwhelmed with the AP advantage first.

 

[Robo432343]

Black Star is a ninja and has used stealth in fights as well. The only reason it’s not as prevalent for him is his showoffishness. He should be able to stop any sneak attacks from Killua. And the speed gap isn’t even that big. But yeah, agree he wins more often.

i think we're underestimating Killua's stealth
(Learned how to sneak upon his targets ever since he was 3 years old[11]. Melody, who has extremely advanced supernatural hearing, stated that Killua's footsteps are the quietest she has ever heard and barely audible even when next to him[

 

[Arkenis]

Tch, okay.


Ehhhhhh, Black☆Star stomp, he have the AP, skill, and versatilty advantage.
I don't think Killua can actually Win.

Eh both are pretty skilled this early on. Killua’s also missing nen here meanwhile Bs got Tsubaki diff forms and soul menace

 

[Arkenis]

i think we're underestimating Killua's stealth
(Learned how to sneak upon his targets ever since he was 3 years old[11]. Melody, who has extremely advanced supernatural hearing, stated that Killua's footsteps are the quietest she has ever heard and barely audible even when next to him[

Bs has good senses too. He’d hear him or very least sense him.

 

[Nierre]

Black Star cant sense souls unless he uses Trap Star

 

[Arkenis]

Black Star cant sense souls unless he uses Trap Star

I was talking about his other senses. Also Tsubaki can just tell him he doesn’t need trap star.

 

[Nierre]

I was talking about his other senses. Also Tsubaki can just tell him he doesn’t need trap star.

Tsubaki can't sense souls either. But yeah, Black Star has incredibly heightened traditional 5 senses so he should be able to sense Killua

 

[Arkenis]

Tsubaki can't sense souls either.

Yeah she can

 

[Nierre]

How

 

[MintyBoi1]

Isn’t sensing souls unique to people like Maka? They emphasize how rare it is and I don’t recall Tsubaki ever seeing a soul.