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Genshin impact: Nahida upgrade

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This is my first time using this website after creating my account EVER so pardon me if i do anything wrong (i have absoloutly no idea what im doing i dont even know if im allowed to make a thread lmao)

Alright so today id like to suggest two upgrades for Nahida's Attack Potency. The first one being that she should have up to at most 7-A in AP because of her birthday letter from today morning, where is is implied that Nahida killed a Zayin. Hypostasis have been stated to be the strongest beings emerging from leylines which should put them higher than hilichurls, mitachurls, fatui agents, abyss mages, ruin guards ect... She also helped the traveler with dealing with a group of fungi and mitachurls during her 1st story quest (as it is seen that she was using her weapon in the cutscene)

The second one being that she should have 6-B AP via using her Upgraded Akasha as a vessel for dendro energy and doing the pew pew, by these means she was able to damage shouki no kami, break his shield and knock him to the ground leaving him unable to move kneeling for a while and eventually defeat him.

So the tier should be something like: Varies, up to at most 7-A, 6-B with Upgraded Akasha. And yeah i guess thats all i wanted to say. If this gets accepted ill probably make a profile for the hypostasis.
 
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After looking at Nahida's profile here, it turns out that Nahida's tier still hasn't been found.
I agree with 6b Nahida, because it is proven that Akasha's attacks are capable of causing damage to the Shouki no Kami.
Moreover, Nahida was able to easily destroy Scaramouce's defense, where a traveler alone is not able to destroy it
so in my opinion tier 6b seem fine
 
Shouldn't Nahida get at least 5-B from Irminsul manipulation? Rukkadevata is also stated as an avatar of Irminsul. Nahida is also a branch from irminsul.
 
Weaver261 said:
Shouldn't Nahida get at least 5-B from Irminsul manipulation? Rukkadevata is also stated as an avatar of Irminsul. Nahida is also a branch from irminsul.
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why can get tier 5b? I don't understand. would you can to explain it further?
 
Mongus_Congus said:
This is my first time using this website after creating my account EVER so pardon me if i do anything wrong (i have absoloutly no idea what im doing i dont even know if im allowed to make a thread lmao)

Alright so today id like to suggest two upgrades for Nahida's Attack Potency. The first one being that she should have up to at most 7-A in AP because of her birthday letter from today morning, where is is implied that Nahida killed a Zayin. Hypostasis have been stated to be the strongest beings emerging from leylines which should put them higher than hilichurls, mitachurls, fatui agents, abyss mages, ruin guards ect... She also helped the traveler with dealing with a group of fungi and mitachurls during her 1st story quest (as it is seen that she was using her weapon in the cutscene)
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okay i disagree here, you have only shown us that she got the boss drop without her stating that she ever met or fought the hypostasis and hilichulrs have unknown tier so for now we cant uprade her at all.
Mongus_Congus said:
The second one being that she should have 6-B AP via using her Upgraded Akasha as a vessel for dendro energy and doing the pew pew, by these means she was able to damage shouki no kami, break his shield and knock him to the ground leaving him unable to move kneeling for a while and eventually defeat him.
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Disagree here as well, she doesnt have akasha anymore nor do we know if she can use that piggy thing anymore.
 
Furina003 said:
After looking at Nahida's profile here, it turns out that Nahida's tier still hasn't been found.
I agree with 6b Nahida, because it is proven that Akasha's attacks are capable of causing damage to the Shouki no Kami.
Moreover, Nahida was able to easily destroy Scaramouce's defense, where a traveler alone is not able to destroy it
so in my opinion tier 6b seem fine
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you can look this.
Woomica said:
okay i disagree here, you have only shown us that she got the boss drop without her stating that she ever met or fought the hypostasis and hilichulrs have unknown tier so for now we cant uprade her at all.

Disagree here as well, she doesnt have akasha anymore nor do we know if she can use that piggy thing anymore.
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so, 6b should be fine
 
Woomica said:
No it shouldnt there is no proof she can use akasha anymore nor to use that piggy
Unless you want to make a separate key for her but thats useless because she only used those once
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nahida did not use akasha to destroy the place of gnosis in scaramouce's body. She only used the dendro energy she had, even a traveler class couldn't destroy it.

You can see the video link that I provided
 
Furina003 said:
After looking at Nahida's profile here, it turns out that Nahida's tier still hasn't been found.
I agree with 6b Nahida, because it is proven that Akasha's attacks are capable of causing damage to the Shouki no Kami.
Moreover, Nahida was able to easily destroy Scaramouce's defense, where a traveler alone is not able to destroy it
so in my opinion tier 6b seem fine
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First that scara was already defeated so he was easier to get trough
Second she was extracting gnosiss she wasnt breaking his body apart to do it
And third traveler didnt get his iq buff from people of sumeru to be strong enough to actually beat him
 
Woomica said:
First that scara was already defeated so he was easier to get trough
Second she was extracting gnosiss she wasnt breaking his body apart to do it
And third traveler didnt get his iq buff from people of sumeru to be strong enough to actually beat him
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Firstly, Scaramouce has indeed been defeated, but this will not reduce his durability, that is because Gnosis is still connected to Shouki no Kami. This is what makes him able to become a false god who has 6b endurance.

Second, Akasha only gives Traveler battle experience that has been repeated 168 times so that Traveler can see what will happen in front of him, this is what allows Traveler to defeat Scaramouce.
So the traveler should have been level 6b from the start. for example he can fight with foul legacy childe and beat him without any power buff. and he was also able to fight in blood fire arlechino mode without any buffs, although in the end he was defeated.

Third, yes, he released gnosis by destroying a place of gnosis that even a traveler could not destroy. So here Nahida should be able to get tier 6b by using the dendro energy she has
 
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Furina003 said:
Firstly, Scaramouce has indeed been defeated, but that won't reduce its durability, that's because Gnosis is still connected to the Shouki no Kami. This is what makes him able to become a false god who has a durability of 6b

secondly, akasha only gives the traveler a fighting experience that has been repeated 168 times so that the traveler can see what will happen in the future, this is what makes the traveler able to beat Scaramouce.
so the traveler should have had level 6b from the start. for example he was able to fight with foul legacy childe and beat him without any power buffs. and he was also able to fight in blood fire arlechino mode without any buffs, even though he was ultimately defeated.
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Scaling pre fontaine childe to 6-B is crazy 😵‍💫
And arlecchino utterly embarassed traveler dont bring this here.
okay so what exactly did nahida do except flying and opening his chest to get a gnosis...i dont see punching breaking or any sort of ability other than levitating be used
Furina003 said:
thirdly, yes, he released gnosis by destroying the place of gnosis which even a traveler was unable to destroy.
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!?
 
Woomica said:
First that scara was already defeated so he was easier to get trough
Second she was extracting gnosiss she wasnt breaking his body apart to do it
And third traveler didnt get his iq buff from people of sumeru to be strong enough to actually beat him
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Firstly, Scaramouce has indeed been defeated, but this will not reduce his durability, that is because Gnosis is still connected to Shouki no Kami. This is what makes him able to become a false god who has 6b endurance.

Second, Akasha only gives Traveler battle experience that has been repeated 168 times so that Traveler can see what will happen in front of him, this is what allows Traveler to defeat Scaramouce.
So the traveler should have been level 6b from the start. for example he can fight with foul legacy childe and beat him without any power buff. and he was also able to fight in blood fire arlechino mode without any buffs, although in the end he was defeated.

Third, yes, he released gnosis by destroying a place of gnosis that even a traveler could not destroy. So here Nahida should be able to get tier 6b by using the dendro energy she has
 
Woomica said:
Scaling pre fontaine childe to 6-B is crazy 😵‍💫
And arlecchino utterly embarassed traveler dont bring this here.
okay so what exactly did nahida do except flying and opening his chest to get a gnosis...i dont see punching breaking or any sort of ability other than levitating be used

!?
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yes and you also ignored that scaramouce god has strong durability, Since leaving Inazuma, this traveler has had tier 6b. He was even able to fight evenly with the Raiden Shogun after Yaemiko's training, although not strong enough to defeat raiden shogun.
 
Woomica said:
Why are you repeating your arguments?
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Furina003 said:
Firstly, Scaramouce has indeed been defeated, but this will not reduce his durability, that is because Gnosis is still connected to Shouki no Kami. This is what makes him able to become a false god who has 6b endurance.

Second, Akasha only gives Traveler battle experience that has been repeated 168 times so that Traveler can see what will happen in front of him, this is what allows Traveler to defeat Scaramouce.
So the traveler should have been level 6b from the start. for example he can fight with foul legacy childe and beat him without any power buff. and he was also able to fight in blood fire arlechino mode without any buffs, although in the end he was defeated.

Third, yes, he released gnosis by destroying a place of gnosis that even a traveler could not destroy. So here Nahida should be able to get tier 6b by using the dendro energy she has
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sorry I sent it wrong
 
Woomica said:
okay so what exactly did nahida do except flying and opening his chest to get a gnosis...i dont see punching breaking or any sort of ability other than levitating be used
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Attack potential is not only obtained through physical attacks, but it is a measure of the energy we can expend. For example, if I use the wind to destroy a mountain, then I will get attack potential at the mountain level. Likewise, Nahida destroyed Scaramouce's defense using her dendro energy
 
Woomica said:
okay i disagree here, you have only shown us that she got the boss drop without her stating that she ever met or fought the hypostasis and hilichulrs have unknown tier so for now we cant uprade her at all.
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I don't see how she could've got a corpse in another way... maybe synthetizing it with her own dendro ? (Now that could be a likely possibilty when i think about it as the knights of Favonius and Fatui have the technology to build and manipulate hypostasis) Every time a character sent us a boss drop they said that they fought it (ex: tartaglia, klee) and churls are large build to mountain on the wiki though?? (Same thing for fungi aswell since i just saw that puppet had an accepted crt for fungi upscaling from fatui)
Woomica said:
Disagree here as well, she doesnt have akasha anymore nor do we know if she can use that piggy thing anymore.
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She dosen't have her gnosis anymore either so why does she have the "varies" tier? If the profile talks about pre dottore robbing nahida she should have her rabbit aswell and inazuma traveler also has his vision buff displayed on their profile even though it was a temporary boost that only lasted 5mins in version 2.1
 
Hmm..
I think she should be like this
Varies, Up to 7-A at most, Higher/Possibly 6-B
at least she should be able to fight a lawachurl
 
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Mongus_Congus said:
I don't see how she could've got a corpse in another way... maybe synthetizing it with her own dendro ? (Now that could be a likely possibilty when i think about it as the knights of Favonius and Fatui have the technology to build and manipulate hypostasis) Every time a character sent us a boss drop they said that they fought it (ex: tartaglia, klee) and churls are large build to mountain on the wiki though?? (Same thing for fungi aswell since i just saw that puppet had an accepted crt for fungi upscaling from fatui)
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Oh i see i havent opened Chulrs profile in a while, well i am open for high 8-C possibly 7-A option if other people agree
Mongus_Congus said:
She dosen't have her gnosis anymore either so why does she have the "varies" tier? If the profile talks about pre dottore robbing nahida she should have her rabbit aswell and inazuma traveler also has his vision buff displayed on their profile even though it was a temporary boost that only lasted 5mins in version 2.1
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Varies (An Archon's power is dependent on the faith of their people[3], as well as in fulfilling their duties as Archons[4])
No gnosis mentioned in Varies justification.
 
Bump, now that UES is accepted in that 4-A upgrade.. would nahida gain 7-A to all stat considering she blatantly ATE scara attack without single damage?
 
Woomica said:
Bump, now that UES is accepted in that 4-A upgrade.. would nahida gain 7-A to all stat considering she blatantly ATE scara attack without single damage?
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I think she should be at least 7-A and far higher, because in her Story Quest act 1, she's capable to fight a Hilichurls and theres Mitachurl who scaled to 7-A with the traveler and manage to defeat all of them

And also stated to be capable to destroy a Gnosis
 
Mongus_Congus said:
What dura does a gnosis have ?
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well idk, maybe far stronger than Vision, Keqing once trying to destroy her Vision many many times, and eventually failed.

Gnosis who have greater power than Vision must be Stronger than Vision. Vision are having Tier 7-A in the Profile so.. If you want to make the dura same as AP i think it'll be fine, even though its still unknown
 
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