Tensei Shitara Dai Nana Ouji Dattanode Discussion Thread

[Digital_Franz]

Welcome to the Tensei Shitara Dai Nana Ouji Dattanode (I Was Reincarnated as the 7th Prince so I Can Take My Time Perfecting My Magical Ability) General Discussion, a thread that will be dedicated to discussing anything related to that of the series, from scaling to chapter (and hopefully anime) discussions.

 

[Green1W]

Anyone know why the existing Lloyd profile classifies him as only wall level? He has better feats than destroying the library.

 

[Digital_Franz]

I had been working on the verse for months when a new guy came along and copied a sandbox, didn't even work on it, and published it.

 

[Digital_Franz]

Here is the link to my sandbox of the verse.

 

[Metalballrun]

Was it their own sandbox? I'm quite sure you're not supposed to mess with someone else's sandbox. I've had some people steal my sandbox, and although I didn't report them, it killed my interest in the verse and I no longer plan on working on it, and I might even delete my gallery for its feats to gain more space for myself.

 

[Digital_Franz]

Was it their own sandbox? I'm quite sure you're not supposed to mess with someone else's sandbox. I've had some people steal my sandbox, and although I didn't report them, it killed my interest in the verse and I no longer plan on working on it, and I might even delete my gallery for its feats to gain more space for myself.

This was @Tou_aperceber's sandbox that he had been working on ever since. I asked him since he no longer worked on the verse if I could use it (for the links to the feats on Imgur).

 

[Metalballrun]

In any case, the sandboxes definitely needs more cooking, but it already looks great. Just more scans and proper justifications, and so on.
Also, if there isn't a laundry list of powers and abilities, it's not necessary to put it in a box/table.

 

[Digital_Franz]

In any case, the sandboxes definitely needs more cooking, but it already looks great. Just more scans and proper justifications, and so on.
Also, if there isn't a laundry list of powers and abilities, it's not necessary to put it in a box/table.

I prefer it like this for aesthetic reasons. I want the profiles to be presentable. But possibly for the other sandboxes I will not use the table since there are not many resistances.

 

[Digital_Franz]

In any case, the sandboxes definitely needs more cooking, but it already looks great. Just more scans and proper justifications, and so on.
Also, if there isn't a laundry list of powers and abilities, it's not necessary to put it in a box/table.

For the feats I am collecting them and I will try to make a big blog where I will calculate everything.
The problem with the verse is the statements of the levels of rank 10 demons who can destroy nations when in reality they are Wall level and the lack of feats on their part.
I'll try to work on an explanation of the scaling of the verse.

 

[Green1W]

Glad to see the anime's getting another season, can't wait to see the church arc animated.

 

[Digital_Franz]

Glad to see the anime's getting another season, can't wait to see the church arc animated.

I hope I could easily get feats from it easily.

 

[Digital_Franz]

I'm working on multipliers. I was planning to use x3/x4 multipliers. Anyone have a suggestion?

 

[Saibotsan]

I came here from the Lloyd crt, glad to see there is a discussion thread for this series

Lloyds profile is still missing some abilities
EE, summoning, weapon creation, light manipulation, as well as a bunch of resistances
His AP should also be higher, he destroyed a mountain with "void" and took out a chunk of the moon with his altar spell

I plan on rereading so I'll drop scans for these additions

 

[Digital_Franz]

Lloyds profile is still missing some abilities
EE, summoning, weapon creation, light manipulation, as well as a bunch of resistances

The abilities you mention are already in my sandbox. The resistances I think I have everything out.

His AP should also be higher, he destroyed a mountain with "void" and took out a chunk of the moon with his altar spell

He destroyed the top of a mountain and what he did on the moon I don't think currently can exceed his AP in my sandbox. He is at High 6-C+.

 

[Saibotsan]

The abilities you mention are already in my sandbox. The resistances I think I have everything out.

He destroyed the top of a mountain and what he did on the moon I don't think currently can exceed his AP in my sandbox. He is at High 6-C+.

His moon feat is at least baseline country level, in later panels there's a missing chunk on the moon I don't remember if it was with dual incantation but if it wasn't it'll comfortably put him at High 6B to 6A

I plan on reading the Ln, probably some details there missing in the manga

 

[Digital_Franz]

His moon feat is at least baseline country level, in later panels there's a missing chunk on the moon I don't remember if it was with dual incantation but if it wasn't it'll comfortably put him at High 6B to 6A

Nah just with the scale I think it would reach 6-C at most. Do you remember what it was like on the moon? It was small

 

[Digital_Franz]

And there are conditions for the double incantation to be x1000 amp. Altar magic does not meet these conditions because he does not use it with the Incantation Roll.

 

[Saibotsan]

Th

Nah just with the scale I think it would reach 6-C at most. Do you remember what it was like on the moon? It was small

The moon size is an issue of perspective and author's inconsistency, there are multiple shots showing the moon from earth

Reading the chapter again there were 2 spells, his altar spell which is around 6-C and the meteor summon "astra impacta" which created an explosion half the size of the moon and left a crater and rings on the moon that can be seen from earth, even the meteor compared to the moon is island sized

A similar feat happened in fire force and it was calced at 6A and It was even smaller than Lloyd's feat

I'll push the scans to a friend to calc the feat and I'll let you know

 

[Digital_Franz]

Th

The moon size is an issue of perspective and author's inconsistency, there are multiple shots showing the moon from earth

Reading the chapter again there were 2 spells, his altar spell which is around 6-C and the meteor summon "astra impacta" which created an explosion half the size of the moon and left a crater and rings on the moon that can be seen from earth, even the meteor compared to the moon is island sized

A similar feat happened in fire force and it was calced at 6A and It was even smaller than Lloyd's feat

I'll push the scans to a friend to calc the feat and I'll let you know

OK that would be a great help.

 

[Palaeocene.epoch1]

There are very nice feats on volume 8 of the LN. makes me want to work on LN/WN version of Lloyd. But alas, not completely fantranslated or officially translated yet. Which makes me lose motivation. Since it'll be kept as sandbox anyway.

Well, it's mostly because I'm rusty and relearning sandbox/wikia formatting sounds like lot of work, lol.

Thanks for people actually making Lloyd's profile though. I hope I can get motivated enough to update the profile. After all, kodansha has gracefully provided official translation for the manga up to (paywalled) latest chapter.

 

[LadyVeldanava]

hello

 

[K'rimuru]

Hello

I was just wondering why there is such a lack of desire to do well on this verse when there are so many interesting things to do.

And just a microscopic scaling from me, in the last episode of the anime, Gitan states that with the triple incantation Lloyd would have destroyed the earth if he had not stopped (statement here), I just want to point out that the panel is in French, because I am French and I live in France, I can't find the English translation of the episode so I took the French version.

For those who don't understand French, Gitan says on the panel "and destroy our planet".

Previously he said that basically the triple incantation was so dangerous that tonight was powerful enough to wipe out all of humanity (and the planet therefore).

For those who have the episode directly in English, it is episode 12 of season 2 at 4 minutes and 54 seconds precisely.

I also have the manga version (this time in English) which states exactly the same things as in the anime. (panel here)

So I hope these two statements will help you to scale Lloyd and the verse higher because I love the verse enormously and it pains me to see it so low and the community so inactive.

 

[Animefacts300]

Following

 

[K'rimuru]

Sandbox/General upgrade of the verse

Hello everyone ! 🙏 I've noticed that Lloyd's page is sorely lacking in information, and even on verse in general. It is for these reasons that I have creating this content revision for a general improvement of the Verse, even if most of the discussion will concern Lloyd, it can also be useful...

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[LadyVeldanava]

@Digital_Franz Can I edit your sandbox?

 

[Animefacts300]

Uni feat

 

[Animefacts300]

Uni feat 2

 

[Animefacts300]

Also with recent chapters with Lloyd fighting the box they travel to different worlds with speed alone which should be infinite second I would like say Lloyd can make sub spaces his own dimension and alter them how he see fits can reality warp also

 

[LadyVeldanava]

@K'rimuru

 

[K'rimuru]

@K'rimuru

Yes ?

 

[LadyVeldanava]

Yes ?

5-B , 5-B

 

[K'rimuru]

5-B , 5-B

Yes, those are the two exploits I used on my user blog to put Lloyd 5-B

 

[LadyVeldanava]

Yes, those are the two exploits I used on my user blog to put Lloyd 5-B

OK

 

[LadyVeldanava]

(Accepted)-[CRT] Lloyd de Saloum (Tensei Shitara Dai Nana Ouji Dattanode) - Tier Upgrade

Hello everyone, this is my first CRT. Please excuse any terminology errors or typos, as I am still getting used to the format. I kindly ask everyone to keep the discussion civil and avoid any toxic behavior or hate speech. Without further ado, let’s get straight into the content. Since the...

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[LadyVeldanava]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Lloyd_de_Saloum

 

[1stPrinceDarkness]

It took me a while but now that I see that Lloyd's profile is being updated, I just can't help but be annoyed at what I'm looking at here...
There are too many abilities listed here that Lloyd has not yet shown to be capable of in the anime that is apart of both profiles. (profile 1 & profile 2)
If you're going to make the profile specific to the anime's seasons, you could at the VERY least be consistent with that narrative.
It'd be one thing if you were simply compiling everything he's ever done into one post, but since we're splitting up the keys into different seasons, we should also make sure that those abilities stay locked until he showcases it!
For example, Holy Magic should be in his Season 2 list of abilities, not his Season 1 key. Teletracking shouldn't be mentioned unless we're referring to a manga key, since the arc it's used in has yet to be animated.
There are also general fixes that need to be made to the profile, aswell... Cause Lloyd can't teleport people to the future, he doesn't use Sphere of Black Death, and hasn't erased Pazuzu's magic.
That instance of Ydd being "sent into the future" was a subversion of the "Life flashing before your eyes" trope, the magic spell that Lloyd uses to poof things out of existence is called "Void", and Lloyd negating Pazuzu's miasma was due to the fact that Lloyd's own miasma had a LOT more mana put into it in comparison, so it completely overruled Pazuzu's.

 

[LadyVeldanava]

It took me a while but now that I see that Lloyd's profile is being updated, I just can't help but be annoyed at what I'm looking at here...
There are too many abilities listed here that Lloyd has not yet shown to be capable of in the anime that is apart of both profiles. (profile 1 & profile 2)
If you're going to make the profile specific to the anime's seasons, you could at the VERY least be consistent with that narrative.
It'd be one thing if you were simply compiling everything he's ever done into one post, but since we're splitting up the keys into different seasons, we should also make sure that those abilities stay locked until he unlocks it!
For example, Holy Magic should be in his Season 2 list of abilities, not his Season 1 key. Teletracking shouldn't be mentioned unless we're referring to a manga key, since the arc it's used in has yet to be animated.
There are also general fixes that need to be made to the profile, aswell... Cause Lloyd can't teleport people to the future, he doesn't use Sphere of Black Death, and hasn't erased Pazuzu's magic.
That instance of Ydd being "sent into the future" was a subversion of the "Life flashing before your eyes" trope, the magic spell that Lloyd uses to poof things out of existence is called "Void", and Lloyd negating Pazuzu's miasma was due to the fact that Lloyd's own miasma had a LOT more mana put into it in comparison, so it completely overruled Pazuzu's.

@BlackCat

 

[BlackCat]

It took me a while but now that I see that Lloyd's profile is being updated, I just can't help but be annoyed at what I'm looking at here...
There are too many abilities listed here that Lloyd has not yet shown to be capable of in the anime that is apart of both profiles. (profile 1 & profile 2)
If you're going to make the profile specific to the anime's seasons, you could at the VERY least be consistent with that narrative.
It'd be one thing if you were simply compiling everything he's ever done into one post, but since we're splitting up the keys into different seasons, we should also make sure that those abilities stay locked until he showcases it!
For example, Holy Magic should be in his Season 2 list of abilities, not his Season 1 key. Teletracking shouldn't be mentioned unless we're referring to a manga key, since the arc it's used in has yet to be animated.
There are also general fixes that need to be made to the profile, aswell... Cause Lloyd can't teleport people to the future, he doesn't use Sphere of Black Death, and hasn't erased Pazuzu's magic.
That instance of Ydd being "sent into the future" was a subversion of the "Life flashing before your eyes" trope, the magic spell that Lloyd uses to poof things out of existence is called "Void", and Lloyd negating Pazuzu's miasma was due to the fact that Lloyd's own miasma had a LOT more mana put into it in comparison, so it completely overruled Pazuzu's.

If you look carefully, abilities like Holy Manipulation and Light Manipulation are already listed under Key SS2, so please take another look.


There is no ability like Teletracking in his profile—did you perhaps misread it?


“Cause Lloyd can’t teleport people to the future” — this one is my mistake, because I forgot to thoroughly check the scans before adding it.


“Hasn’t erased Pazuzu’s magic.” — I feel that it does count as power erasure.


“He doesn’t use Sphere of Black Death.” — I mixed this up myself; I’ll fix it.

 

[1stPrinceDarkness]

"There is no ability like Teletracking in his profile—did you perhaps misread it?"

Nope, it's in the Season 1 tab and linked in the "Danmaku & Homing Attack" line (teletracking is the name of the spell in the scan provided).

this one is my mistake, because I forgot to thoroughly check the scans before adding it.

That part is still currently in the "Teleportation, BFR, & Spatial Manipulation" spot in the Season 2 tab. If that scan must be included (when it really shouldn't ATPIT), it should be listed as a scan for his Fear-Inducing aura since that sequence only came about due to shock.

“Hasn’t erased Pazuzu’s magic.” — I feel that it does count as power erasure.

Although I feel like it's moreso power overwriting, I'll concede to this for the time being...
But yeah, other than this, nothing really bothers me about the profile anymore.
Well, aside from the manga preview that come with no manga key... But I'll just wait for that to be covered later.
By the way, can we get this speed-feat scaled at some point?

 

[BlackCat]

Nope, it's in the Season 1 tab and linked in the "Danmaku & Homing Attack" line (teletracking is the name of the spell in the scan provided).

That part is still currently in the "Teleportation, BFR, & Spatial Manipulation" spot in the Season 2 tab. If that scan must be included (when it really shouldn't ATPIT), it should be listed as a scan for his Fear-Inducing aura since that sequence only came about due to shock.

Although I feel like it's moreso power overwriting, I'll concede to this for the time being...
But yeah, other than this, nothing really bothers me about the profile anymore.
Well, aside from the manga preview that come with no manga key... But I'll just wait for that to be covered later.
By the way, can we get this speed-feat scaled at some point?

I’ll take care of it this evening (if I don’t forget).

By the way, can we get this speed-feat scaled at some point?

I’ve calculated it before, but the result was lower than I expected, so I dropped it. However, if I really have some free time, I might pick it up and redo it just to kill time.