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So whats up with Shibai?

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Trihexa102 said:
from the raw scans translated it says "KOJIGEN" which was translated to a mathematical higher dimension, so it seems he is.
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The problem is that the dimension he went to didn't require him to discard his physical body as he only got rid of it so he wouldn't have to go through karmic cycling anymore meaning he could've went with his physical body that could be perceived and interacted with by 3D beings
 
Trihexa102 said:
from the raw scans translated it says "KOJIGEN" which was translated to a mathematical higher dimension, so it seems he is.
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"Ko" means "child" or "small"

Even if it is a higher dimension, considering the abilities of the Otsutsuki, it could be a literal alternate dimension
 
Excel616 said:
Not much evidence of that.
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It was confirmed that amado's hypothesis is correct but yes we need more evidence , and he is definitely at least possibly or likely HDE nothing supports otherwise.
 
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SlendVeny said:
"Ko" means "child" or "small"

Even if it is a higher dimension, considering the abilities of the Otsutsuki, it could be a literal alternate dimension
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Nah an alternate dimension is a different time-space from the original naruto time-space, A higher dimension is mathematically above all that.
 
TheFallenProfit said:
The problem is that the dimension he went to didn't require him to discard his physical body as he only got rid of it so he wouldn't have to go through karmic cycling anymore meaning he could've went with his physical body that could be perceived and interacted with by 3D beings
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the rules of how dimensionality is potrayed different for every verse , look at samuai 8 the author wrote naruto too, from it we already have an idea how he considers higher dimensional beings through fudo-myo or how fudo myo explained it.
 
Trihexa102 said:
the rules of how dimensionality is potrayed different for every verse , look at samuai 8 that the author wrote naruto too, from it we already have an idea how he considers higher dimensional beings through fudo-myo or how fudo myo explained it.
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So then would Kishimotos interpretation of dimensionality even allow his characters to actually be 4D and beyond in the traditional sense since they don't meet the general prerequisites for dimensionality like what's outlined in the wiki?
 
TheFallenProfit said:
So then would Kishimotos interpretation of dimensionality even allow his characters to actually be 4D and beyond in the traditional sense since they don't meet the general prerequisites for dimensionality like what's outlined in the wiki?
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nah it dosent work like that it's either the wikia section of HDE is outdated or something is wrong , all things point at him being possibly or likely HDE to deny that notion, well requires a lot of mental gymnastics.
 
TheFallenProfit said:
So then would Kishimotos interpretation of dimensionality even allow his characters to actually be 4D and beyond in the traditional sense since they don't meet the general prerequisites for dimensionality like what's outlined in the wiki?
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also what do you mean i just read it and he fulfill all prerequisites?
 
Trihexa102 said:
also what do you mean i just read it and he fulfill all prerequisites?
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The fact that he still could've went to the dimension with his 3D body and his abilities still being able to be wielded by 3D beings is what has me thinking he's not 4D and that Amados statement was just in reference to how Shibai grew strong enough to gain access to another dimension hence it being "higher" and not literally transcending to a higher dimension.
 
TheFallenProfit said:
The fact that he still could've went to the dimension with his 3D body and his abilities still being able to be wielded by 3D beings is what has me thinking he's not 4D and that Amados statement was just in reference to how Shibai grew strong enough to gain access to another dimension hence it being "higher" and not literally transcending to a higher dimension.
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Ontop of his body still being able to be perceived and interacted with by 3D beings
 
TheFallenProfit said:
The fact that he still could've went to the dimension with his 3D body and his abilities still being able to be wielded by 3D beings is what has me thinking he's not 4D and that Amados statement was just in reference to how Shibai grew strong enough to gain access to another dimension hence it being "higher" and not literally transcending to a higher dimension.
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no bruh, he discarded his body and ascended, to a higher dimension thats all we know so far, any other thing you are thinking now is extrapolation.
 
Trihexa102 said:
Nah an alternate dimension is a different time-space from the original naruto time-space, A higher dimension is mathematically above all that.
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No it isn't, it could be like "ascending to a higher dimension" because that dimension is just better.
 
SlendVeny said:
No it isn't, it could be like "ascending to a higher dimension" because that dimension is just better.
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It is literally translated to a higher mathematical dimension bruh. if you can't accept what am saying ask on the Naruto/Boruto thread.
 
SlendVeny said:
It isn't up to me to accept it, you haven't shown evidence.
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That's my point you aren't willing to accept the evidence I have given thus far, you are extrapolating right now you know, it was translated to a higher ''mathematical dimension '' and the response you have used to try and debunk it , relies on heavy mental gymnastics like I said earlier, am not saying he is fully HDE , but he is more than possibly or likely HDE, as nothing else supports otherwise.
 
Trihexa102 said:
That's my point you aren't willing to accept the evidence I have given thus far, you are extrapolating right now you know, it was translated to a higher ''mathematical dimension '' and the response you have used to try and debunk it , relies on heavy mental gymnastics like I said earlier, am not saying he is fully HDE , but he is more than possibly or likely HDE, as nothing else supports otherwise.
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You have not given any evidence. You just said "yeah, he's a higher mathematical dumension, accept it."
 
SlendVeny said:
You have not given any evidence. You just said "yeah, he's a higher mathematical dumension, accept it."
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cause I don't have the raws and translations on hand is why I said ask on the naruto/boruto thread bruh come-on 😭
 
Deceived3596 said:
Fudo Myo-o has way better evidence than Shibai for his HDE.
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True but shibai is definitely there as a possibly or likely at least , saying it's not, is well just not true. Especially since the translation implies a mathematical higher dimension which momo confirmed.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
The perpetual cope of Boruto fans is always "Boruto will end up like Samurai 8".
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Boruto is more otsutsuki based recently though I doubt it will end up completely like samurai 8, there is still a high possibility it will come close.
 
Lol how am I coping at this point , I am stating what I saw in the manga and comparing it to another work of the same author.
 
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