Asta vs Blake Belladonna

[Naito-desu]

• Both are 8-A
• Asta's Beginning of Series key is used, Blake is in her Post-Haven key
• Speeds equalized
• SBA otherwise

Asta:

Blake:

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I feel like that instinctive reaction + accelerated development + analytical prediction miiiiiiiight make this a bit stompish ngl

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

instinctive reaction

Extremely situational because is not for using Ki, is for shutting his mind and striking a fireball that was gonna hit him so I don´t know how is he gonna use it here with clones that are not fake, it would be detrimental

analytical prediction

Does not have it, he has no KI yet

PD: Unless Aura is equal to magic, Asta also can´t do anything against someone who scales to Weiss that can no diff 250 tons( or similar) attacks

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Does not have it, he has no KI yet

It's literally listed in his beginning of series key?

Precognition: (Learned how to use ki and sense it.[7] With ki, Asta has the capacity to predict opponents' next moves by reading their breathing, muscle movements, glare, life force, current emotional state and even their slight presence, with all his senses combined. His ki sensing allows him to even sense non-living objects such as rocks and other energies like magic)

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

It's literally listed in his beginning of series key?

Precognition: (Learned how to use ki and sense it.[7] With ki, Asta has the capacity to predict opponents' next moves by reading their breathing, muscle movements, glare, life force, current emotional state and even their slight presence, with all his senses combined. His ki sensing allows him to even sense non-living objects such as rocks and other energies like magic)

His page is extremely wrong in that regard because Asta learned how to use ki in a cavern (Eye of the midnight arc), in the same arc, he was able to damage Gauche, who is 7-B, so that is his 7-B key, not the beginning of the series

Edit: I am discussing this topic right now, if anything, at least Asta has extremely good instincs but not his "op" precog/analitical prediction that you are worry about

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I see

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Unless Aura is equal to magic, Asta also can´t do anything against someone who scales to Weiss that can no diff 250 tons( or similar) attacks

Yeah Aura is not equal to magic, magic exists in rwby and it's something completely different

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Yeah Aura is not equal to magic, magic exists in rwby and it's something completely different

Recently, Magic in Black Clover has been confirmed to come from the soul of a person, like Aura from RWBY-

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Hmm...would you be a bit more specific?

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

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Aura from RWBY: "Aura is an ability that all those with a soul can use, at least with enough practice. Because Aura is the manifestation of the soul"

 

[WeeklyBattles]

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Hmm, wouldnt that just apply to his specific brand of magic, not asta's?

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Hmm, wouldnt that just apply to his specific brand of magic, not asta's?

Lucius is saying that to all magic in the BC verse, Asta has no magic (anti-magic is not magic)

The context is that he is explaining that everyone has magic from their respective souls, his magic can change souls, so he wants to create a perfect humanity, Asta lacks magic, is a failure to his eyes and is the only error of the world

But this argument is extremely recent, so with more time we will have more context, but for example, Yuno has two souls in his body, he has two types of magic(wind magic and stars magic) for that whole reason, so I hope that is enough for you

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I see, well then this match is in a really weird spot, because if he can null Blake's stuff then literally her entire arsenal and all of her abilities aside from her physical powers are gone meaning he pretty much stomps her, but if he cant then he cant do anything to her

 

[Epsilon_R]

Does that mean AM could work against Reiatsu

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

I see, well then this match is in a really weird spot, because if he can null Blake's stuff then literally her entire arsenal and all of her abilities aside from her physical powers are gone meaning he pretty much stomps her, but if he cant then he cant do anything to her

Typical Asta fight

Only thing is that Blake completely skill stomps him because this Asta is garbage, his only skill feat that I remember is being able to defeat assasins from Mariella squad, but Blake can do that 50 times better and Adam Taurus right now would solo Asta in my opinion

But I already gave my info and point of view, more people can bring other arguments

Does that mean AM could work against Reiatsu

I don´t want to think about that in any conceivable way

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Typical Asta fight

Only thing is that Blake completely skill stomps him because this Asta is garbage, his only skill feat that I remember is being able to defeat assasins from Mariella squad, but Blake can do that 50 times better and Adam Taurus right now would solo Asta in my opinion

But I already gave my info and point of view, if more people wants to bring other arguments

And his reactions and such wouldnt help him with that? Like, if he nulls her stuff, Blake would lose her energy attacks, her afterimages, her passive forcefield, and all of her elemental attacks

Actually, how does he null stuff? Is it passive?

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

how does he null stuff?

Cutting /impaling/deflecting/doing anything that involves touching magic, with his swords

Forcefield would be instantly nulled by the touch of his swords, any ranged attacks can be cut it/reflected, clones must be cut to be nulled

And his reactions and such wouldnt help him with that?

His reactions right now I don´t know how good can be considered in relation to other protagonists/characters that also has good reactions, but he has no Ki like I said, he has one showing of being able to detect an alive body in the middle of a "mountain" of corpses, that´s it

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Does that mean AM could work against Reiatsu

Yeah, after that, I will create Ichigo vs Asta thread

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Cutting /impaling/deflecting/doing anything that involves touching magic, with his swords

Forcefield would be instantly nulled by the touch of his swords, any ranged attacks can be cut it/reflected, clones must be cut to be nulled

Hmmmmm...

Okay then this would be a grey area, because blake's dust ammo isnt inherrently aura based so that would still work on him, and her clones are intangible so he wouldnt be able to cut them to null them

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

intangible

Naamath and Lilith are also intangible(is elemental in their case), means nothing to antimagic

The clones are his semblance that is also considered part of Aura right?

Also Gueldre has permeation magic, is impossible to see nor touch him, antimagic ignores that, using this because Naamath and Lilith are waaaaaaaay beyond Beginning of the series, the Gueldre thing happened at the 7-B key, but Asta did not improve at all his antimagic (unless we are talking about Black Asta, but that have not happened yet), only his strenght and his profile confirms that

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Naamath and Lilith are also intangible(is elemental in their case), means nothing to antimagic

The clones are his semblance that is also considered part of Aura right?

Also Gueldre has permeation magic, is impossible to see nor touch him, antimagic ignores that, using this because Naamath and Lilith are waaaaaaaay beyond Beginning of the series, the Gueldre thing happened at the 7-B key, but Asta did not improve at all his antimagic (unless we are talking about Black Asta, but that did not happened yet), only his strenght and his profile confirms that

Blake's are fully intangible, they're effectively afterimages, they dont even have elemental substance to them unless she gives them elemental properties. Also are they nulled permanently if he cuts one or does he null each one individually?

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Blake's are fully intangible

Gueldre while using his magic can´t be touch by any type of magic, even if there is a strenght difference (this only has one showing of him effectly laughing against an elf who was extremely superior, no idea of what would happen if he faces a devil) and antimagic just don´t care about him being completely untoachable, Gueldre also has 0 elemental substance, that would be Naamath and Lilith and let´s ignore them for being only damaged by a Devil Union Asta who has amped antimagic

Also are they nulled permanently

Asta cuts an spell, the spell is nulled, the caster can produce more spells but if the caster is damaged by the sword, then he is temporaly nulled because his mana is getting drained, Health who is an 8-A can´t fight anymore with one attack of Asta draining all of his mana, Mars was stopped after one good attack and he only continued to fight for having regen that the protagonist did not know about it, royals that has large mana pools with one attack are almost drained, etc

Vetto in other key who has more mana than even a captain , needed more attacks because he was so above Asta that Asta needed to impale him and wait 1-3 minutes to have almost all his mana completely gone, in this fight, one hit and Blake would be at the very least, 70% drained and that is being generous to her

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Hmm...yeah this is a weird matchup, should we wait for more black clover supporters? Because I know nothing about asta's other stuff so I dont want to jump to conclusions lol

 

[Naito-desu]

Bump

 

[Popted2]

so first Asta in this key doesn't have ki sensing and the abilities related to this, so he won't predict Blake moves

second Asta is not very skilled in this key, or at least compared to his other keys, and most importantly Blake is absolutely more skilled than him by a margin

third, the ap Asta is 155 tons and Blake greatly upscale from 249 tons,

fourth, even if Anti magic work against Aura Blake wouldn't take so much damage thanks for the upscaling and because Asta swords seems to be more for Blunt damage than cut damage, as demonstarted multiple times in the start of the series and Blake doesn't have just the aura but she has elemental attacks wich Asta can't do nothing about it like the Ice dust


so i will vote for Blake, Far better skill, far better experience, lift strengh advantage Class 10 vs class M, more acrobatic, the elemental attacks can give more trouble for Asta, and ap advantage

 

[Naito-desu]

Bump

 

[Peppersalt43]

Bump, lets continue the discussion

 

[Naito-desu]

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