It's impossible to get Type 3 or 4 without being 1-A or above, so anything that would qualify for them would automatically be debunked to Type 2. It's why Transduality can't give you a tier.
NEP Type 2 is given by default of having TD 2 and up, however, Cause and Effect are not considered a duality by default of the wiki.
type 3 being for 1-A only / a stepladder to 1-A is no longer the case
By default, I believe so. It also works pretty much like immunity from everything present in the verse, though it gets a bit NFL-like if you say it includes a unique dual system from another verse.
Huh, we're going a bit overboard by saying it would be immune to all possible dualities when X verse has barely shown 1 or 2 set of dualities, by default it should be only those that the verse has shown.
That's why I said not unique dualities. Like some verses with Transduality may not have the concept of magic so they also wouldn't have the duality of Magical & Non-Magical. But basic stuff like Fire & Water, Hot & Cold, can be granted even if it's not shown.
Even taking into account something so basic, not all verses portray some obvious things as dualities, they always do it explicitly with the ones they want to imply as dualities. This can be obviated when we know that something in specific (as for example, a concept, an order) is a duality and that there are countless of those dualities and that it has its opposite and that each one is something different from the previous one. example, Causality, Laws, Concepts, Magic, Destruction, Chaos, Creation, Existence, Non-existence and so on. Why do I give these examples as if they were dualities? Because there are verses that treat them as dualities, and not only simple dualities, but dualities at the conceptual level and even more.
That's fair, though if your getting Transduality Type 2 I would imagine it would be valid enough to cover the most basic dualities since its main requirement is based on transcending all dualities/concepts on an entire level of reality. The words "All" or "Every" gives a rough amount of freedom but in the end, it's up to us to use common sense when it comes to stuff it does and doesn't include.
No, we have countless. And every order (Law/Cm/Duality) is on a conceptual level, and he transcends, lacks and is unbound from all those countless dualities, and far above dualities is reason/logic and far above reason/logic is Anos' source and or a hypothetical true nature, Graham' true nature, MEoCD & Venuz. Already as DT said some time ago, TD is a power logic-based power, and MG's reason/logic shows the ability to surpass and manipulate that same TD.
Yeah this
It's still not infinite. So he'll have his ass handed to to him if the specific order isn't noted.
What does it change? It doesn't help your case at all
You brought Anos here...and I'm not even defending, just correcting.
The order that is duality can not affect Anos or Graham, it has been said many times, that lacks, unbound and transcend the order, and only Venuz, MEoCD that can manipulate the logic can destroy them and Eques has feats of negating those natures, that's why he has Aca and TD Negation.
Sure, we would be more than grateful to have someone else read the novel here and even if you read it to be an opponent, I'll have someone to argue with so I win.
I only agree with what he said
I'm using him here because I'm pretty sure you're using it as a blueprint to judge all Transdual characters, when you don't even know how it really works in the grand scheme of things.
The book will tell me whether Anos is transdual or not.
Sure
Alright
There you are incorrect, because I carry the same logic even before Anos had TD, even I opposed it and called it a wank. It just so happens that Anos now has TD and everyone relates it to him. The main problem comes when one believes that everything shown in a verse is a duality and that everything is related to a duality for one's own taste, e.g. if a character happens to meet a small description of an ability, then it would gain the ability and it is not so, if he does not meet the full requirement of the ability and just happens to match a piece of text then it cannot be given.
Go ahead, you should know that both myself and Null are the strictest members regarding MG' reliability and agreed to accept it even when we called it wank, so you are free to try.
As you wish, we will see who is right in the end and remember to google more crazy terms next time, sayonara.
