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ASOIAF Revisions

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I propose a revision for the characters ( human and valyrian steel only ) statistics of A Song of Ice and Fire (not Game of Thrones).

Superhuman or Subsonic speed for most fighters in the verse :

"I am Syrio Forel, and you will now be speaking to me with more respect." "Bald Bastard." The man yanked free his longsword. The stick moved again, blindingly fast. Arya heard a loud crack as the sword went clattering to the stone floor. "My hand," the guardman yelped, cradling his broken fingers. "You are quick, for a dancing master" said Ser Meryn.
- A Game of Thrones, Chapter 50, Arya IV.

Qotho danced backward, arakh whirling around his head in a shining blur, flickering out like lightning as the knight came on in a rush. Ser Jorah parried as best he could, but the slashes came so fast that it seemed to Dany that Qotho had four arakhs and as many arms.
- A Game of Thrones, Chapter 64, Daenerys VIII

Arstan splashed sideways, parried a looping cut, danced away from a second, checked a third mid-swing. The moves were so fast she could hardly follow.
- A Storm of Swords, Chapter 57, Daenerys V.

Oznak leapt clear of his horse and managed to draw his sword before Strong Belwas was on him. Steel sang against steel, too fast and furious for Dany to follow the blows. It could not have been a dozen heartbeats before Belwa's chest was awash in blood from a slice below his breasts, and Oznak zo Pahl had an arakh planted right between his ram's horns.
- A Storm of Swords, Chapter 57, Daenerys V

The pit fighter was fast, blazing fasy, as quick as any man Ser Barristan had ever fought. In those big hands, the arakh became a whistling blur, a steel storm that seemed to come at the old knight from three directions at once.
- A Dance with Dragons, Chapter 67, The Kingbreaker.


Higher with Valyrian Steel and possibly Dawn :

Oathkeeper was alive in her hands. She had never been so quick.
- A Feast for Crows, Chapter 20, Brienne IV

"If it please my lord", Ser Hyle said, "I watched her fight the Mummers. She is stronger than most men, and quick--" "The sword is quick,' Tarly snapped.
- A Feast for Crows, Chaper 25, Brienne V

Those who have had the honor of examining it say it looks like no Valyrian steel they know, being pale as milkglass but in all other respects it seems to share the properties of Valyrian blades, being incredibly strong and sharp.
- The World of Ice and Fire, Dorne : The Sword of the Morning
Wall lvl for the strongest humans in the verse :

The door behind him opened with a crash, so violently that Tyrion almost dropped his cheese. Ser Kevan leapt up swearing as the captain of the guard went flying across the room to smash against the hearth. As he tumbled down into the cold ashes, his lion helm askew, Shagga snapped the man's sword in two over a knee thick as a tree trunk, threw down the pieces, and lumbered into the common room.
- A Game of Thrones, Chapter 56, Tyrion VII

They had come together at the ford of the Trident while the battle crashed around them, Robert with his warhammer and his great antlered helm, the Targaryen prince armored all in black. On his breastplate was the three-headed dragon of his House, wrought all in rubies that flashed like fire in the sunlight. The waters of the Trident ran red around the hooves of their destriers as they circled and clashed, again and again, until at last a crushing blow from Robert's hammer stove in the dragon and the chest beneath it. When Ned had finally come on the scene, Rhaegar lay dead in the stream, while men of both armies scrabbled in the swirling waters for rubies knocked free of his armor.
- A Game of Thrones, Chapter 4, Eddard I

The Hound gave a rasping scream,raised his sword in both hands and brought it crashing down with all his strength. Lord Beric blocked the cut easily.... "Noooooo," Arya shrieked..... but the burning sword snapped in two, and the Hound's cold steel plowed into Lord Beric's flesh where his shoulder joined his neck and clove him clean down to the breastbone. The blood came rushing out in a hot black gush.
- A Storm of Swords, Chapter 34, Arya VI

The gorget was cut through... One clean stroke, through a steel gorget. Renly's armor was the best, the finest steel. How could she do that ? I tried myself, and it was not possible. She's freaking strong for a woman , but even the Mountain would have needed a heavy axe.
- A Storm of Swords, Chapter, Chapter 67, Jaime VIII

This AP is only for the following characters :

Gregor and Sandor Clegane, Robert Baratheon ( prime and post-greyjoy rebellion version ), Greatjon and Smalljon Umber, Lyle "Strongboar" Crakehall, Hodor, Maelys the Monstrous, Torgold Tollett, Maegor the Cruel, Brienne of Tarth, Duncan the Tall, Small Paul, Prime Gerold Hightower, and possibly the Smiling Knight, Tormund, Victation Greyjoy and Arthur Dayne.

She stronger than I am. The realization chilled him. Robert had been stronger than him, to be sure. The White Bull Gerold Hightower as well, in his heyday, and Ser Arthur Dayne. Amongst the living, Greatjon Umber was stronger, Strongboar of Crakehall most likely, both Cleganes for a certainty, The Mountain's strength was like nothing human. It did not matter. With speed and skill, Jaime could beat them all.
- A Storm of Swords, Chapter 21, Jaime III

Wall lvl for Valyrian Steel and Dawn :

They came together as the battle raged around them, the king in bronze armor, the hero in silvered steel. Though the Falcon Knight's armor flashed brilliantly in the morning sun, his sword was no Lady Forlorn. The duel was done almost before it began, as the blade sheared through the winged helm and laid the Andal low.
- The World of Ice and Fire, The Vale.

Those who have had the honor of examining it say it looks like no Valyrian steel they know, being pale as milkglass but in all other respects it seems to share the properties of Valyrian blades, being incredibly strong and sharp.
- The World of Ice and Fire, Dorne : the Sword of the Morning

Torgold Tollett < Valyrian Steel

As Robar slashed at his head, Tollett grabbed for his blade, still laughing...but Lady Forlorn sliced through his hands and buried herself in Torgold's skull.
- The World of Ice and Fire, The Vale

Valyrian Steel < Dawn :

If George could wield a sword, he would choose Dawn.
https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=...dex.php/Dawn&usg=AOvVaw3Y2e1abXOeCsuvRJyzwZcc , https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Dawn#cite_note-11

Wall lvl = strongest humans in the world < Valyrian Sword < Dawn

Class 1 in Lifting strength for Robert for being able to fight one-handed with a warhammer that Ned cannot lift (and also for other wall lvl characters I think) :

He'd had a giant's strength too, his weapon of choice a spiked iron warhammer that Ned could scarcely lift.
- A Game of Thrones, Chapter 4, Eddard I

And for the Mountain :

He is almost eight feet tall and must weigh thirty stone, all of it muscle. He fights with a two-handed greatsword, but need only one hand to wield it. He has been known to cut men in half with a single blow. His armor is so heavy that no lesser man could bear the weight, let alone move in it."
- A Storm of Swords, Chapter 70, Tyrion X
 
The best would be create new profiles for the book versions, since the current ones are about the show
 
The best would be create new profiles for the book versions, since the current ones are about the show
Yes, who will create these profiles ?

Will the current GOT character profiles be changed? ? Because most still mix ASOIAF and GOT.
 
You can make sandboxs to test how to do it. If you have problems I can help you when I have time
 
Yes, there is already an ASOIAF page but it is a mix of the books and the show, so we would have to create a new page exclusively for the books from 0. You can see this page to guide you.
I'm going to replace the current page with a Game of Thrones page, this is my sandbox
 
Yes, there is already an ASOIAF page but it is a mix of the books and the show, so we would have to create a new page exclusively for the books from 0. You can see this page to guide you.
I'm going to replace the current page with a Game of Thrones page, this is my sandbox
Where do you start to create a wiki page? I'm new to wikis in general, so I don't know where to go to make a page for a sandbox profile or something.
 
Yes, there is already an ASOIAF page but it is a mix of the books and the show, so we would have to create a new page exclusively for the books from 0. You can see this page to guide you.
I'm going to replace the current page with a Game of Thrones page, this is my sandbox
I'm struggling to make pages it's a real hell, despite the help I've had, I don't understand anything from beginning to end. It's been 2 days that I'm totally lost and I'm still struggling to insert and place an image.
I think I'll end up giving up, yet I had planned perfect profiles and pages for ASOIAF, it would have been great. Anyway, if you want to do the pages for the version of the books, or someone else, I'll be there to help with some info if needed.
 
Send me the links of the images and I upload them for you. Or else you can start with the text and then I put the images
 
I put the main image and made some corrections. I will put the images of the characters later since there are a lot and I don't have time now.
By the way, where did you get the Tier (Large Building to City Block) of the dragons?
 
Via the size of larger dragons like Balerion and Vhagar.
You will need a calc for that. Is there any mention or comparison about the size of the dragons? Or some feat where they destroyed something?
 
You will need a calc for that.
Okay.
Is there any mention or comparison about the size of the dragons?

That :

Within, the dragon skulls were waiting, and so was Shae. "I thought m'lord had forgotten me." Her dress draped over a black tooth near as tall as she was, and she stood within the dragon's jaws, nude. Balerion, he thought. Or was it Vhagar?"
- A Storm of Swords, Chapter 58, Tyrion VII
Shae's size :

Shae only stood a shade over five feet
- A Clash of Kings, Chapter 3, Tyrion I
 
there was also the whole thing bout balerion being able to swallow an orax (or a similar animal) whole
 
His wingspan was so large that his shadow could engulf entire towns when he passed overhead.[3] His teeth were as long as swords, and his jaws were large enough to swallow an aurochs whole, or even one of the hairy mammoths that are said to roam the cold wastes beyond the Port of Ibben.

this what i found bout balerion
 
I don't think the shadow can be calculated, but the teeth and the jaw could
 
btw i dont know but, do we ever get an image or size for those mammoths?

we know the ones of westeros but idk if we are ever given details bout the ones of the port
 
btw i dont know but, do we ever get an image or size for those mammoths?

we know the ones of westeros but idk if we are ever given details bout the ones of the port
We could use the size of a real mammoth (9 to 11 feet)
 
ur calc is bout drogon or balerion?
The calc is about Balerion, I used Drogon from the show for the comparison since he is the closest thing to a dragon from the books. But it's likely that Drogon's (show) size will increase and with that so will Balerion's
 
The calc is about Balerion, I used Drogon from the show for the comparison since he is the closest thing to a dragon from the books. But it's likely that Drogon's (show) size will increase and with that so will Balerion's
eh, no? balerion is dead already, his size will not increase any more

the show is already over, so drogon will not grow either
 
eh, no? balerion is dead already, his size will not increase any more

the show is already over, so drogon will not grow either
Currently Drogon is 70.66 meters long, but I found something that, if it is accepted, would increase his length to 84.792 meters, and that would also increase Balerion's size since I'm comparing him to Drogon
 
Currently Drogon is 70.66 meters long, but I found something that, if it is accepted, would increase his length to 84.792 meters, and that would also increase Balerion's size since I'm comparing him to Drogon
what did u found that would increase his size?
 
thats from the show, do u plan on making the profiles based on the books or the show? cus the books have very different sizes of various things compared to the show
If I can't use Drogon for the comparison what do you recommend me to use then?
 
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