Minor Hollow Knight additions

[Roachman40]

Both Nosk and Paintmaster Sheo should get danmaku, fairly simple enough imo

The Collectors Inorganic Physiology should be removed, We don't have a statement on if void is inorganic or not iirc, plus living creatures have seemingly spawned from the void naturally like the void tendrils.

It should however get a resistance to soul absorption, considering it doesn't produce soul.

The Knight could have some resistance to Mind Manipulation and Empathic Manipulation. Vessels were deliberately conceived to lack any perseverance in thinking, processing, feeling, and/or taking in thoughts & emotions. This could fall under the Pure Vessel as well but im kinda iffy on that.

 

[Jackpact]

Agree with everything. Pure Vessel should have resistance equal to base Knight with The Knight having higher resistance via Void Heart as it's imply to make him the perfect vessel which the Pure Vessel isn't.

Would not producing soul be good enough for being soulless as it would give all void being resistance to soul manip instead of just absorption.

 

[Jackpact]

Actually thinking about it, maybe Pure Vessel should have superior resistance to base Knight and inferior to Knight with Void Heart since the Knight is a failed vessel.

 

[Roachman40]

Would not producing soul be good enough for being soulless as it would give all void being resistance to soul manip instead of just absorption.

I'm kind of iffy on that, considering Void Constructs like the Kingsmould can produce soul.

Actually thinking about it, maybe Pure Vessel should have superior resistance to base Knight and inferior to Knight with Void Heart since the Knight is a failed vessel

Probably an inferior resistance to base knight considering it was tarnished by an 'idea instilled'. It still should get some type of resistance to mind manip though imo, considering it was seemingly capable of holding back the radiance for quite some time.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

1. Agreed, no argument.
2. Disagree. Void tendrils are just extensions of the void with nothing to suggest they possess organic physiology. Now to 360, I wanna add Inorganic Physiology to both The Knight and Hollow Knight for being made of void.
3. Agreed. Never caught that myself, but makes sense.
4. Agreed. Both the Knight and the Hollow Knight should get this.

 

[Deonment]

I'm kind of iffy on that, considering Void Constructs like the Kingsmould can produce soul.

pretty sure that there is some stuff somewhere that states something about the kingsmolds in particular being given soul

 

[Armorchompy]

All looks good, I think all vessels should get those resistances at least to a degree.

 

[Roachman40]

1. Disagree. Void tendrils are just extensions of the void with nothing to suggest they possess organic physiology. Now to 360, I wanna add Inorganic Physiology to both The Knight and Hollow Knight for being made of void.

There is nothing to suggest that they are inorganic either iirc. Even if we consider void as inorganic I think TK and HK should get a limited version of it, considering they still have a natural exoskeleton/shell

pretty sure that there is some stuff somewhere that states something about the kingsmoulds in particular being given soul

The Knight could be getting the soul from the armor the kingsmould, because I couldn't find anything on kingsmould having a soul or not personally. Kingsmoulds and Wingmoulds seem to have been given life by the Pale King though so I can see it.

If you do find a quote suggesting that I would appreciate if you link it, though

 

[Roachman40]

bump

 

[Roachman40]

Oh and that reminds me, The knight should get a resistance to telepathy after receiving void heart

The white lady says this

"That pulsing emptiness... Truly, it has been transformed by the revelations it found.
Does it... feel anything? Triumph? Or hate? If it does, I cannot sense it.
The fate of our Kingdom, our Hallownest... that future belongs to you now."

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Oh and that reminds me, The knight should get a resistance to telepathy after receiving void heart

Does it... feel anything? Triumph? Or hate? If it does, I cannot sense it.

I think what's meant here is that the Knight doesn't have feelings as it's unified the void at this point. That emptiness of mind is what's required to resist the Radiance.

So, resistance to empath manip, since they have no emotions to manip.

 

[Roachman40]

I think what's meant here is that the Knight doesn't have feelings as it's unified the void at this point. That emptiness of mind is what's required to resist the Radiance.

So, resistance to empath manip, since they have no emotions to manip.

Understandable

I would like to ask if you have anything to say on my statement here, considering you where the one who had concerns with it.

There is nothing to suggest that they are inorganic either iirc. Even if we consider void as inorganic I think TK and HK should get a limited version of it, considering they still have a natural exoskeleton/shell

If not, then perhaps this should be added? these seem like rather minor additions

 

[Roachman40]

bump

 

[Roachman40]

bump

 

[GyroNutz]

I agree with everything brought up in the OP.

 

[EliminatorVenom]

I'm fine with this too.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

I think there's enough affirmations to get this passed. The only thing that's been contested was the Collector losing Inorganic Physiology, by me, and I'm not bothered enough to argue the point.

 

[Roachman40]

Alright, gonna add this

@GyroNutz Can you close this please?

 

[GyroNutz]

sure