Mirko vs Fuhrer Ugly

Mirko confronts the vicious Fuhrer Ugly

Speed is = and fight takes place in an evacuated Hosu


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[Cultivator_Daemon]

Looking at Fuhrer Ugly's page... Mirko vs Self-Insert writers, the thread.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Well, the self-insert writers are gonna have to take a seat on this one.

Mirko just beats this guy or at least ties with him in every category. She’s over 3x the feat he’s being scaled above and is almost 5x the lifting feat he scales above. She has far better athletic showings than him bouncing around, his apparent “inferiority complex” would get shredded by her aggressive fighting style and willpower, and I don’t think Mirko is afraid of anything for him to exploit.

His stamina seems absolutely terrible in comparison to Mirko as well, so she just wails on him and he goes down eventually.

Waifu > this guy easy

 

[Clark]

Well, the self-insert writers are gonna have to take a seat on this one.

Mirko just beats this guy or at least ties with him in every category. She’s over 3x the feat he’s being scaled above and is almost 5x the lifting feat he scales above. She has far better athletic showings than him bouncing around, his apparent “inferiority complex” would get shredded by her aggressive fighting style and willpower, and I don’t think Mirko is afraid of anything for him to exploit.

His stamina seems absolutely terrible in comparison to Mirko as well, so she just wails on him and he goes down eventually.

Waifu > this guy easy

Can I see that Lifting strength of hers?

Also the speed she scales to?

 

[TheRustyOne]

I can answer this.

Speed is equalized in this fight, her speed rating doesn't matter.

She's scales above 57981970708.1 kg

 

[Clark]

I can answer this.

Speed is equalized in this fight, her speed rating doesn't matter.

She's scales above 57981970708.1 kg

Wait...how does she scale above All might?

 

[TheRustyOne]

She scales to the High-Ends, who are stated to be stronger than the USJ Nomu by the Doctor who made the Nomu, which is capable of grapping with a Weakened All Might, who did the Class G feat.

It's an unknown amount higher though.

 

[Clark]

She scales to the High-Ends, who are stated to be stronger than the USJ Nomu by the Doctor who made the Nomu, which is capable of grapping with a Weakened All Might, who did the Class G feat.

It's an unknown amount higher though

Pretty sure she never grappled with them though.

And Honestly the High ends were kinda unimpressive considering All might was hailed as the Top Dog even when he is weakened its kinda silly to Think Mirko can take on Multiple "All Mights".

Which Feat is Fuhrer scaling above again?

 

[TheRustyOne]

It seems like Fuhrer Ugly scales above 14521360806.9 kg.

She did, she ripped off one of their heads with her legs. Also she doesn't need to actually grapple with them, just being comparable to them puts her at Class G strength.

Endeavor can take hits from Shigaraki who is comparable to All Might, and Hood can injure Endeavor. The Hospital High-Ends are equal to Hood in strength. Then we have the statement of the High-Ends being superior to the USJ Nomu.

It's clear that All Might while still superior, isn't the untouchable God Tier people assumed he was. Her dura should actually be less than her AP, as the High-Ends did a lot of damage to her, even when she canceled the impact of their attack with her legs.

 

[Clark]

It seems like Fuhrer Ugly scales above 14521360806.9 kg.

She did, she ripped off one of their heads with her legs. Also she doesn't need to actually grapple with them, just being comparable to them puts her at Class G strength.

Endeavor can take hits from Shigaraki who is comparable to All Might, and Hood can injure Endeavor. The Hospital High-Ends are equal to Hood in strength. Then we have the statement of the High-Ends being superior to the USJ Nomu.

It's clear that All Might while still superior, isn't the untouchable God Tier people assumed he was. Her dura should actually be less than her AP, as the High-Ends did a lot of damage to her, even when she canceled the impact of their attack with her legs.

Damn they really made it seem in previous Arcs All might was untouchable.

The Calc you showed me has Fuhrer being a lot stronger physically.

 

[TheRustyOne]

All Might level strength was already blocked in chapter 76 by Muscular, who's a random villain with no connection to anything. Even back then it was clear that there were people with strength similar to All Might running around. It's that old Shonen power creep.

57981970708.1 kg > 14521360806.9 kg. How is Fuhrer a lot stronger?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Which Feat is Fuhrer scaling above again?

Fuhrer brutalized Tanktop Master with apparent ease and beat him to near death, who was stated to be equal to Post-Superfight Genos in a prior Arc (1.22 Megatons of TNT)

 

[TheRustyOne]

Oh, was he asking about AP?

 

[Clark]

All Might level strength was already blocked in chapter 76 by Muscular, who's a random villain with no connection to anything. Even back then it was clear that there were people with strength similar to All Might running around. It's that old Shonen power creep.

57981970708.1 kg > 14521360806.9 kg. How is Fuhrer a lot stronger?

Muscular was actually presented to be A threat because of his Muscle Quirk.

And yeah My bad I counted a number to much

 

[Clark]

Oh, was he asking about AP?

Partly Yes.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Well in AP terms, Mirko's kicks can tear apart the bodies of the High-Ends which scales above 3.9 Megatons by an unknown amount. Since they're superiority comes from a statement. However her durability is less than her AP, since these same High-Ends can cause heavy damage to her with their attacks.

 

[Clark]

Well in AP terms, Mirko's kicks can tear apart the bodies of the High-Ends which scales above 3.9 Megatons by an unknown amount. Since they're superiority comes from a statement. However her durability is less than her AP, since these same High-Ends can cause heavy damage to her with their attacks.

So in other words Mirko can defeat him but if she's hit she would be one shotted?

 

[TheRustyOne]

What... no?

The High-Ends are stronger than Furher and even they couldn't one shot her. He'd do damage yeah, but she should be doing more damage to him than he can to her. Also she'd be able to rip off his head even easier than she did it to one the High-End, due to her superior lifting strength.

Her kicks can rip off the limbs of people who are more durable than 3.9 Megatons, while Furher brutalized someone who is 1.2 Megatons.

 

[Clark]

What... no?

The High-Ends are stronger than Furher and even they couldn't one shot her. He'd do damage yeah, but she should be doing more damage to him than he can to her. Also she'd be able to rip off his head even easier than she did it to one the High-End, due to her superior lifting strength.

Her kicks can rip off the limbs of people who are more durable than 3.9 Megatons, while Furher brutalized someone who is 1.2 Megatons.

I was basing of the fact that Fuhrer Ugly scales above this Genos by a huge margin.

This is for 3 reasons:

-Genos only managed to break one of his teeth although he was stronger through Regenerating, the attack Bang and bomb did to him completely shattered him which should still be abobe genos Blast.

-Bang and Bomb then Did a stronger attack on a weakened Rover and it did nothing.

-Bang can only (At least in the webdomic) defeat Fuhrer Ugly in his abandonment form.

So he should scale above that. I'm not sure if Bangs and bombs feat was calced though.

Just checked that Bangs Key has him at Possibly Mountain level due to the attack on EC

 

[TheRustyOne]

Who broke Furher's teeth? Maverick said he was scaling via brutalizing Tanktop Master, who is equal to Genos, who is 1.2 Megatons.

Even if Furher was two times stronger, that'd be scaling above 2.4 Megatons, which is still less than 3.9 Megatons. Mirko's kicks are strong enough to rip off the limbs of people who are stronger than 3.9 Megatons, from what you say he scales above 2.4 Megatons?

She also has enough lifting strength to rip off his head.

 

[Clark]

Who broke Furher's teeth? Maverick said he was scaling via brutalizing Tanktop Master, who is equal to Genos, who is 1.2 Megatons.

Even if Furher was two times stronger, that'd be scaling above 2.4 Megatons, which is still less than 3.9 Megatons. Mirko's kicks are strong enough to rip off the limbs of people who are stronger than 3.9 Megatons, from what you say he scales above 2.4 Megatons?

She also has enough lifting strength to rip off his head.

I was scaling him to normal bang and Bomb.

Considering Genos would loose To any Cadre at least at that point in the series sames goes with TTM.

This is also Normal fuhrer he still has he's final transformation.

 

[TheRustyOne]

I'm going off his profile, and he's scaling to Low 7-B via stomping Tanktop Master, who is 1.2 Megatons. Also is far superior to other people like Ripper and Bug God, who are 1.2 MT via fighting Human Garou.

So unless something is missing from his profile, Mirko's kicks can rip of Furher's limbs just like with the High-Ends. Nothing puts him higher than 3.9 Megatons.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Wait...how does she scale above All might?

yeah that's some wacky ass scaling imo

 

[Kingofwolves999]

yeah that's some wacky ass scaling imo

A top 5 hero, known for her high physical strength, being comparable, if not somewhat above handicapped, dying, wounded, no more One For All, past his time limit All Might is wacky scaling?

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Yes. Endeavor the current number one admitted he can't hold a candle to All Might even at his weakest.
The series does not portray the rest of the cast to be capable of the things he does.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Yes. Endeavor the current number one admitted he can't hold a candle to All Might even at his weakest.
The series does not portray the rest of the cast to be capable of the things he does.

Except with the High Ends and Shigaraki, both of whom have numerous statements of being around weakened All Mights level. The High Ends are direct upgrades to the USJ Nomu, superior in stats right from Ujiko's mouth, which could hurt All Might. Shigaraki is stated several times to be on All Might's level, by Endeavor himself, who proceeded to take hits from him.

When did Endeavor ever say he couldn't hold a candle to All Might at his weakest? He never stated that after realizing how weakened he was to my knowledge, his wounds were secret all the way until Kamino.

No one holds a candle to All Might before he gave One For All away. The fact that he can be hurt by Nomu's punches is evidence that the strength he was reduced to is attainable. The main legend of his power comes from his prime, who would literally blitz and one shot everyone in the series.

 

[Clark]

Except with the High Ends and Shigaraki, both of whom have numerous statements of being around weakened All Mights level. The High Ends are direct upgrades to the USJ Nomu, superior in stats right from Ujiko's mouth, which could hurt All Might. Shigaraki is stated several times to be on All Might's level, by Endeavor himself, who proceeded to take hits from him.

When did Endeavor ever say he couldn't hold a candle to All Might at his weakest? He never stated that after realizing how weakened he was to my knowledge, his wounds were secret all the way until Kamino.

No one holds a candle to All Might before he gave One For All away. The fact that he can be hurt by Nomu's punches is evidence that the strength he was reduced to is attainable. The main legend of his power comes from his prime, who would literally blitz and one shot everyone in the series.

The Nomus that Mirko defeated weren't ready yet actually.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

The Nomus that Mirko defeated weren't ready yet actually.

They were quite literally all about a day from being done and had gone through practical testing already. And Ujiko was worried about their stability, not their stats. Even the Near High Ends have strength on Hoods level, the Hospotal High Ends just could reach better heights due to their quirks and growing intelligence.

It took Hood a couple hours after being out to stabilize, while it took Hospital High Ends like 10 minutes. Their physical stats are no where near inferior when they were just hours away from being exactly as stable as Hood.

 

[Metalballrun]

Yes. Endeavor the current number one admitted he can't hold a candle to All Might even at his weakest.

Just asking, when did this happen?
I'm not a proponent of All Might being weaker than any of these characters. In fact I think we still have All Might as superior to these characters. While the High-Ends are superior to the USJ Nomu by an unknown margin, the latter had shock absorption that could nullify 3.91 Megatons, if I'm not mistaken. All Might had to attack it with higher AP 300 times to knock it out.

But it's undeniable that the series either hasn't intended for All Might (Weakened) to have an astronomical margin of strength above the rest of the verse early on in the series, or it has tried to lessen that perceived gap later in the series. We see Shigaraki being compared to All Might, and Endeavor can harm him, even if Shigaraki was still evidently above Endeavor. We have Muscular, the wonder boy who could take and clash with 100% Smashes, and he appeared in like Chapter 80-90.

 

[Popted2]

what are the win conditions?

 

[Ourosboros]

I'm going off his profile, and he's scaling to Low 7-B via stomping Tanktop Master, who is 1.2 Megatons. Also is far superior to other people like Ripper and Bug God, who are 1.2 MT via fighting Human Garou.

So unless something is missing from his profile, Mirko's kicks can rip of Furher's limbs just like with the High-Ends. Nothing puts him higher than 3.9 Megatons.

Thread is probably dead, but current scaling has Fuhrer weak as hell right now all the way down in low 7-B. Until the dragons get upgraded again, Mirko has a clear AP advantage.

However, Fuhrer Ugly has a strength growth mechanic like many OPM characters. If he feels pathetic/embarrassed, he claims that he will grow stronger. This is probably true considering his new form. If Mirko is clowning on him and making him feel weak and he survives long enough to feel embarrassed, he will continue to grow larger and stronger.

Also why doesn't Fuhrer have large size on his profile he should have large size type 0. Not that that would make any difference in this particular match-up, I will bring this up on the OPM thread.