Joker vs The Player(Wizard101)

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Ren Amamiya

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The Player (Wizard101)

The Player is the primary protagonist of the MMORPG Wizard101. Originating from a world outside the Spiral, where people don't believe magic exists, he was brought into the Ravenwood School of Magical Arts by Headmaster Ambrose. The wizard was later revealed to be the Child of Light and Shadow...

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first arc wizard

with satanael

speed equalized

whooooooooooooooooooooooooo would win

 

[Lucas_Carvalho_Santiago]

Joker uses Sinful Shell. The End.
If it doesn't work, Joker uses Mudoon/Hamaon and gg.

Wizard doesn't have a clear win condition to me. What is his first move?

 

[Ben_CleverName]

In the first place the player (and Wizard101) is very heavily out-dated so there's no point in debating about them.

I know Jack shit about Joker beyond what's on the profile... But to be honest nothing really looks all that relevant to the player judging by the powers and abilities. So, I'll say Storm Lord GG.

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[Lucas_Carvalho_Santiago]

In the first place the player (and Wizard101) is very heavily out-dated so there's no point in debating about them.

I know Jack shit about Joker beyond what's on the profile... But to be honest nothing really looks all that relevant to the player judging by the powers and abilities. So, I'll say Storm Lord GG.

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Joker's first move when he has Satanael is sinful shell, which is a significantly above baseline bullet that can kill the Demiurge if he somehow doesn't kill the Wizard, that i see is probably exactly baseline (am i right?), that will probably not happen, he uses Mudoon/Hamaon which are both Death/Light manip respectively, as W101 has no resistances, he dies, simple as that.
If that somehow doesn't work, he gets tired and uses 10^29 Mind Hax.

Also, how is this bolt storm? you know, if it is something the involves lightning, ren can just, you know, change to Odin and null all lightning damage to a certain degree.

 

[Ben_CleverName]

No, the player isn't baseline, they casually scale above many other Low 2-Cs, including conceptual beings, but unfortunately they don't have profiles yet which is only a small part in how the verse is out-dated.

The player resists and power-nulls 4D mindhax and even has it for himself.

Storm Lord is one of the aforementioned conceptual beings and they (along with the player) have resistance negation that works against immunity. That's another reason the verse is out-dated. Not to mention the player can become immune to pretty much every type of magic (damage-wise) as well, and Storm Lord is only one of several options.

Then there's Arc 4, which, while obviously much later into the game, just came out and provides huge insight on the scaling and hax for Arc 1 characters and beyond.

Finally, there's the player's law manipulation that needs to be elaborated on, which is literally passive Low 1-C smurf hax that activates as soon as someone gets close to the player, and doubles as power nullification/statistics reduction, forcing opponents to participate in turn-based combat and preventing them from operating to their fullest extent.

So, yeah... Out-dated Wizard101 is out-dated.

 

[Ben_CleverName]

Oh, and for the record, life and death manipulation are part of the player's arsenal in resistance/immunity and power nullification too, so there's also that.

 

[Lucas_Carvalho_Santiago]

No, the player isn't baseline, they casually scale above many other Low 2-Cs, including conceptual beings, but unfortunately they don't have profiles yet which is only a small part in how the verse is out-dated.

The player resists and power-nulls 4D mindhax and even has it for himself.

Storm Lord is one of the aforementioned conceptual beings and they (along with the player) have resistance negation that works against immunity. That's another reason the verse is out-dated. Not to mention the player can become immune to pretty much every type of magic (damage-wise) as well, and Storm Lord is only one of several options.

Then there's Arc 4, which, while obviously much later into the game, just came out and provides huge insight on the scaling and hax for Arc 1 characters and beyond.

Finally, there's the player's law manipulation that needs to be elaborated on, which is literally passive Low 1-C smurf hax that activates as soon as someone gets close to the player, and doubles as power nullification/statistics reduction, forcing opponents to participate in turn-based combat and preventing them from operating to their fullest extent.

So, yeah... Out-dated Wizard101 is out-dated.

Okay, that makes sense.

This is First Arc Wizard, is stated very clearly on the OP, and in that key, he doesn't resist Death Manip, so that's the move for Joker.

But you made your point very clear, sir. W101 is clearly outdated so this is probably a mismatch at the moment. I will try to make a SMT vs Wizard match and see how that goes.

 

[Lucas_Carvalho_Santiago]

Oh, and for the record, life and death manipulation are part of the player's arsenal in resistance/immunity and power nullification too, so there's also that.

Not in Arc 1. but this is a mismatch regardless.

 

[Ben_CleverName]

Yes in Arc 1. That's part of the CRT.

 

[Ben_CleverName]

There is a giant amount of stuff missing and mislabeled for the verse. Going over it all here is kind of pointless, but if you want to know what all it is you can find me on Discord.