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Blaziken vs Infernape

Well i guess if Infernape wins round 1, might aswell go along with Mega Blaziken vs Infernape....
 
Infernapes' Mega Evolution is him realizing that he is the true monkey king, and fighting against Buddha and Heaven while also gaining a staff. So Arceus, he's coming for you.
 
yes but we are talking about a normal non hidden ability blaziken and infernape. and tiers from smogon don't transfer to these tiers. either way infernape wins round 1 and blaziken wins round 2.
 
Their abilities weren't specified or restricted to the initial ones, therefore I am assuming most powerful setups of both. Furthermore the tiers here state Blaziken is Tier: 7-C to 7-B whereas Infernape is 7-C, so even with the tiers here Blaziken is superior without a more in-depth look.

Using your words: Either way Blaziken wins round 1 and Blaziken wins round 2.
 
Infernapes faster, but Blaziken with Speed Boost wins due to hitting harder. And Blaziken again because I'm hungry...

Because he can Mega Evo.
 
Davy0 said:
Infernapes faster, but Blaziken with Speed Boost wins due to hitting harder. And Blaziken again because I'm hungry...
Because he can Mega Evo.
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yeah so blaziken w/o speed boost loses but blaziken with hidden ability wins. but infernape with iron fist hits harder with punching moves.
 
Kind of. The only notable punching move is Mach Punch, the other punching attacks are inferior compared to other usable moves even with the punching boost. In addition the increase to punching moves is 20% whereas Speed Boost multiplies the speed stat by 1.5 after the first move (even if Blaziken uses Protect, which negates damage, but going more in depth in this fight would result in a moveset Rock Paper Scisors/ mindgame tie) then to 2.0, 2.5 etc capping at a multiplier of 4.

Without hidden abilities this battle could go either way imo, as Infernape would have a speed advantage but Blaziken would have a large Offense and slight Defence advantage, based on base stats.
 
fire punch, thunderpunch, mega punch, dynamic punch. punching moves. but like i said blaziken with speed boost is overpowered. in the anime however we don't know how speed boost works. we've scene ninjask multiple times yet no mention of speed boost.
 
Infernape can learn Acrobatics which is a bird type move which Blaziken is weak to, combine that with a flying gem and a Naive Infernape and you've got a died Fire Chicken
 
Earthquake has 200 power on Blaziken. Dynamic Punch is the strongest of them with 180 power, factoring in STAB and hidden ability and ignoring the low accuracy and Infernape can't even learn it (Mega is second of the ones you listed with 96 power, less than half of Earthquake factoring in weakness). As I said, Mach Punch is the only notable punching move Infernape learns.

Games are more canon to Pokemon than the anime.
 
Quincy King said:
Infernape can learn Acrobatics which is a bird type move which Blaziken is weak to, combine that with a flying gem and a Naive Infernape and you've got a died Fire Chicke
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Blaziken holds a Focus Sash and uses Counter.
 
hmm. infernape learns earthquake as well. thunderpunc and firepunch are able to be taught to infernape as well. how about this infernape uses earthquake the first turn. So does blaziken. infernape has mach punch boom dead blaziken with speed boost. so infernape can beat a mega blaziken if needed. via game mechanics.
 
CyberGhost42 said:
You do realize Blaziken gets Quick Attack right? With Speed Boost Blaziken's attack comes out before Infernape's.
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their you go. unless it has blaze.
 
Already edited.

Based on: https://pokemonshowdown.com/damagecalc/ max attack Infernape does (max without a crit) 97% damage to 31/31 IV no EV neutral nature Mega Blaziken, so no one hit on Mega whom will 2 hit with Earthquake/Quickattack.


Either way, this is going into the mindgame theory crafting area of Pokemon where each pokemon would have a set that counters each set the other pokemon can use.
 
CyberGhost42 said:
Already edited.
Based on: https://pokemonshowdown.com/damagecalc/ max attack Infernape does (max without a crit) 97% damage to 31/31 IV no EV neutral nature Mega Blaziken, so no one hit on Mega whom will 2 hit with Earthquake/Quickattack.


Either way, this is going into the mindgame theory crafting area of Pokemon where each pokemon would have a set that counters each set the other pokemon can use.
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yeah they make it like that on purpose. tnbh i'm just a butthurt sceptile fan who likes and despises blaziken for overshadowing he badassery of sceptile. that's why i like anime battles more. sceptile and blaziken tied.
 
Sceptile is awesome. Marowak is my favorite Pokemon but Donphan is still going to be a more powerful Ground pokemon regardless of my opinion.

Speed Boost gives a major advantage to Blaziken, but assuming they both have Blaze, I can see it being a lot more even and would say a tie due to so many variables/ similarities or slight Infernape advantage. That being said the ability hasn't been restricted, and because of that I see Blaziken as having a big advantage in this battle.
 
Round 1:

252+ Atk Infernape Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Blaziken: 247-292 (82 - 97%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Infernape: 292-345 (99.6 - 117.7%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

Blaziken tanks Infernape's strongest attack and then one-shots with his own. However, if Infernape has Acrobatics...

252+ Atk Infernape Acrobatics (110 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Blaziken: 302-356 (100.3 - 118.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

...He takes this

Round 2: Mismatched against Infernape since he lacks a Mega Evolution. We'll just have to wait for those Sinnoh remakes to settle this one.
 
i really don't see that as radical. to me he just a PETA protest incarnate cuz y'know cockfighting.
 
That's blastphemous to lord sceptile! :)

No. No. Bruh. Swampert. Swampert. Mudda fudgin Swampert!
 
But yeah, what Unclechairman said sounded pretty accurate...
 
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