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Zen'ō vs Simon the Digger

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Equalized speed Location: Anti-Spiral Universe Profiles on the images
Votes: Simon (Kaltias, Paulo.junior.969, Gargoyle One, Apprentice21, Cropfist, Xmark12, Joseph619)

Zeno: LordGriffin1000
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With hax probably, but he did fight AS H2H....even in that department Zen'o has no feats, but we can assume he's good since he's above the Daishinkan who is one of the top 5 fighters in the verse.

Edit: Damn this blew up quick lol
 
Kaltias said:
I wouldn't say that he stomps, but he kinda haxes Zen'ō to oblivion.
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How do not stomp someone but hax them into oblivion?

Simon has Probability Manipulaion, Reality Warping, BFR, Durability Negation, Energy Absorbtion (so he can absorb Zeno's energy) and Zeno's only advantege was speed (which is gone).

Hopefully this gets closed soon.
 
Energy Absorption iirc was never applied in combat. And the Reality Warping is an application of probability manipulation in this case.

Not to mention that Simon is baseline 2-C while Zen'ō isn't
 
How does Simon even fight? Does he like BFRing people or dose he start of physically trying to battle someone?.
 
Yeah, Zeno does have him as far as AP goes, considering he busted 12 universes (possibly 18 in the future since the destroying 6 thing was only mentioned in the present), each one containing like 4 universes (afterlife, mortal realm, heaven, hell).
 
Simon starts the fights hand to hand but with the probability manipulation active.
 
What dose his probability manip work with him? Dose it boost his stats up, Does it weaken his opponent? Because if it doesn't do that Zeno will unleash all his power and destroy him.
 
It's the same as Anti-Spiral's which iirc change your probability of winning. He can set them to 0
 
It could make the probability of Zeno hitting him 0 for instance, durability negation, etc.
 
Zeno's attack is omnidirectional so I don't think the probability of missing will come into play but turning Zeno's chances of winning instantly to 0 and Durability Negation. How is Zeno supposed to even stand a chance if his chances drop automatically and he can defend himself.
 
He doesn't. But having a hax that gives you the win isn't remotely enough for the fight to be considered a haxstomp.

Especially if the opponent could win if said hax wasn't present. Take away probability manipulation and Zen'ō would simply use his AP advantage, bust the universes and be done with it.
 
Yeah it is

His Probability Manip by it self will destroy Zeno, He can turn his chances of winning to 0 and ignore his durability, He could just BFR Zeno if he wanted to.

If speed is equalized Simon stomps because he can cut Zeno's chances of winning, he can ignore his durability and he could BFR him. Zeno wouldn't go for blowing up everything until he finds simon annoying which could allow Simon to one shot because we don't even no if Zeno can fight and will just stand there.

Speed uneqalized Zeno stomps by destroying everything before Simon reacacts to anything.
 
Simon doesn't go around BFRing people. It's a last resort. And Zen'ō would win if it wasn't for the probability manipulation.

Sure, it gives Simon the victory. So what? It isn't like he has a hundred of different hax to one-shot.

A stomp isn't a match where one of the two wins 10/10. It's a match where one of the two has absolutely zero advantages.

Blowing everything up is literally the only way Zen'ō ever "fought". He would go for it. Remember that he is willing to kill due to SBA.
 
What's SBA? And also, I'm nearly certain that a blitz is out of Zeno's character. His erase move was full of plotholes as is. To say the least, it needed to be charged up, at which point everybody reacted to it, and the time machine was able to be loaded and take off before they got destroyed.
 
I not about to argue on how this site treats vs matches statistics because its bad (in my opinion).

@Unite

Anon didn't vote, he just ask if Simon stomps

Gargoyle One said its a stomp

And I said it was a stomp

You don't count are votes since one didn't vote he just asked a question and you don't count the vote of someone who says its a stomp.

They would need to comeback vote for simon and state their resons and not call it a stomp.
 
@Kaltias

Griffin said "Speed uneqalized Zeno stomps by destroying everything before Simon reacacts to anything."

Which was why I used the word blitz

And yeah I meant the first 3 comments, not the first 4.
 
Realistically he would blitz because Simon is like a billion of times slower so he would become bored. But the only actual vote is mine. The other said that Simon stomps
 
Kaltias said:
Standard Battle Assumptions. Blitz? I'm talking about attacking. The universe bust is the closest thing to Zen'ō fighting that we ever saw. He is willing to kill, so he would use it.
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Yes, Zeno is willing to kill but did you know he only used erase when he got annoyed, he only destroyed 6 universes in the past when he was annoyed.

Zeno will not use erase unless hes annoyed but he dosent do anything else.
 
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