Sonic The Hedgehog Upgrade.

Now the main argument for Sonic being Large Planet Level is due to Dark Gaia's feat. That in no way' scales to Super Sonic as Base 'Sonic was the one to take him down.

There also is the notion that "Sonic passed out against Dark Gaia" and "It's an outlier"

This, however, is not the case.

He passed out against Perfect Dark Gaia who is, needless to say, stronger than Dark Gaia. And the notion that sonic passing out of "exhaustion" can also be questioned. Super Sonic takes up a considerable amount of stamina hence why he could be exhausted not due to the fight but due to his short stamina.


Overview of Sonic's 4D Showings

- Defeated Time-Eater

'('Ranked as Universal+)

- Battled Solaris

(Ranked as Multiversal)

- Battled Egg Wizard (Alongside Blaze) who had the Power of The Stars (http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Power_of_the_Stars) which allows the coexistance of 2 Universe (Universal+ to Multi-Universal feat)

- Battled Egg Salamander who had harnessed the power of the Emeralds, which is the same game could cause a space-time distortion which could destroy the fabric of reality https://plus.google.com/u/0/115198278014529700260/posts/gYJHbimdoWk

(Universal+ feat)

2 Universe Level+ Feats, 1 Universe Level+/Multi Universal Feat, 1 Multiversal Feat.

This is supported by the fact that the chaos emeralds are consistently described as being able to manipulate space-time and all 7 of them granting unimaginable power. With all this proof it points to Sonic being 4D.

Now let's go over his so his "planetary feats" which apparently "limit" him.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140412151210/http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=21317

^ Large Planet Level for Dark Gaia. There is a misconception that Super Sonic barely defeated this Dark Gaia but it was infact Base Sonic that did so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FSSmZpRjzU

So it isn't Large Planet Level for Super Sonic, it's Large Planet for Base Sonic which is consistent with the fact that Base Sonic defeated Perfect Chaos who is also ranked at Large Planet.

- Sonic also defeated Ultimate Emerl who is ranked at Planet Level (should be Large Planet considering the size of the planet) which is again another Planet Level feat.

3 Consistent Large Planet Level feats for Base Sonic

4 Consistent Universe Level+/Multiversal feats for Super Sonic

While I do agree with you,apparently someone else is already handling Sonic revisions.

I think that Sera is eventually going to handle them, but she is very busy with helping to prepare different projects for the wiki.

Antvasima is correct. Don't worry ShadowSoul123, I have plans to upgrade Sonic and characters that scale (most of it was already accepted) and agree with you 100%. If you'd like you can post anything you find on my message wall and we can revise the verse once the wiki revisions are done. Slow and steady wins the race.

there was a literal thread about this Sera made some time ago which talked about the variable tiers of super forms tbf: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/683691 though it mentions a second thread will be made

There was that thread , then a summary of that thread and after more important revisions are done, I will make another thread for scaling.

Okay. Should I close this thread in the meantime.

I got it.