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Sailor Moon: Tier and Key revision

Iamunanimousinthat

Iamunanimousinthat

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So now with the addition of a Nehellenia's profile, I think it's time for some revision in the Sailor Moon Character profiles:

My biggest concern is two things

1. Eternal Senshi and Sailor Galaxia

2. Lambda Senshi


1. Eternal Sailor Moon defeated Nehellenia a Low 2-C character with Starlight Honeymoon Therapy Kiss. The Eternal Senshi at their strongest iterations were able to effortlessly tank and counter that attack. I believe the Eternal Senshi should be given the Low 2-C rating for such a feat.

And Galaxia should be given "Atleast Low 2-C" along with Eternal Sailor Moon (plus Chaos too) as explained here in this thread: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/575196 as they are leagues beyond the other Senshi.

2. I think having a seperate key section for Lambda senshi is superflous. The lambda form isn't realy a form to say. Usagi shared the power of the cosmos crystal which allowed the senshi to regenerate. I think it should be listed as a power for the Eternal Senshi. And while it gives Mid-Godly Regen, I don't believe there is enough evidence that anyone with it can use all the sailor crystals. I believe that should be kept only for the holder of the cosmos crystal.


But for Sailor Moon I believe the key should change to Eternal Sailor Moon/Neo Queen Serenity | Sailor Cosmos
 
Well, I am not knowledgeable enough about Sailor Moon to say either way. Sorry.

However, I would appreciate more community input.
 
About Nehellenia's profile...

AP:

" Universe level+ (Can manipulate the Dark World and supports it with her life force; took over another world of unknown size) "

Dura:

" Universe level+ (Supports an entire Universe) "

It's been a while since i read the sm manga but where does it says that the Dark World equate to a Universe?
 
Neo Queen Serenity called it a Parallel Universe in a story to Chibi-usa. The Materials Collection call it an alternate world seperate from the reality Usagi and company are in. Also the Japanese text always refers to as universe.
 
I will highlight this thread for more input.
 
Don't know anything about SM, but being leagues beyond low 2-C characters, is usually just treated as being At least low 2-C and not 2-C.
 
I would also appreciate some more input.
 
Iamunanimousinthat said:
Neo Queen Serenity called it a Parallel Universe in a story to Chibi-usa. The Materials Collection call it an alternate world seperate from the reality Usagi and company are in. Also the Japanese text always refers to as universe.
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Can you post scans of this?
 
Well, there was a 4 day shutdown of the wiki that prevented people from responding. I will highlight this again.
 
The whole Eternal Soilders tanking SM's Starlight Honeymoon attack comes from Galaxia empowering them via brainwash. So I don't think it makes them solid Universe+. I know this thread is more towards the end of the series, I still have issues with the 5-A tiering; "Pre-Serenity Sailormomn" and "Partially Awakened Mars, Mercury and Jupiter." The stats come from the 1st half of the Dark Kingdom Arc which is nigh featless in terms of AP and had stirred up some controversey when the Large Planet Feat was being pitched.
 
Well, after checking the first post again, I think that this seems reasonable, but I would prefer more input from other members.
 
Galaxia didn't just empower and brainwashed them. She recreated them. They took on an entirely new form/version of themself. I believe that should be noted for battle purposes.

Also, it's not far-fetch that the eternal senshi be around universal+. Aluminum Siren was able to tank Starlight Honeymoon but was killed by the starlights. Mars was able to counter Lead Crow's attack. And Lead Crow was defeated by Sailor Moon. Tin Nyankow as able to tank attacks from both Sailor Moon and the starlights. Starlights and Sailor Kayuu were defeated by Sailor Phi and Chi who both tanked attacks from Sailor Moon, but was also defeated by Sailor Moon. And then throw in the sailor quartet and Chibimoon (who too can use starlight honeymoon).

I'm just trying to say, that all the Sesnshi in stars, both good and evil seem to flucuate around the level of Starlight Honeymoon, give or take for some.

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And I too agree with you about hte 5-A tiering. The large planet feat isn't solid enough. It goes by the image of a moon in the sky that's only seen in one panel. By that logic. It should be a solar system feat cause there are stars depicted in the sky too. It's too far-fetched and contrived.

Especially because they never do anything of that scale again until later in the series by the time of the seco
 
Well, in lack of further input from the staff, I suppose that the changes proposed in the first post seem acceptable, but I am not certain.
 
So, do you wish to perform the changes to the profiles? If so, I could unlock them for you. Just make sure to provide proper explanations.
 
I finished edtting the tiers. If you want me to add more explantions or elaborate more I can or if I need some corrections. I did run into a problem for the Sailor moon prolfie, I wanted to add a picture for Sailor Cosmos but coudlnt' do it correctly.

Also, for Tuxedo Kamen, I put Unknown but most likely 2-C. We never see him fight in the last arc. He literally gets killed in the first few pages and when he's ressurected by Galaxia he doesn't do any attacks, but the story does say the Golden Crystal, the source of his power is equal to Sailor Moon's which is why I put the most liekly 2-C.
 
@Iamunanimousinthat Okay. Thank you. I will check it up later.
 
Since we're talking about SM could we change the sailor soldiers profile pics to their designs in Crystal? That way they wouldn't have such... conflicting art styles...

Usagi
Sailor Moon Season III
these are from Sailormoon wiki but i would like to fix the renders a little if we decide to use them.
 
You can use the new renders if you wish, yes.
 
So from what I'm gathering. Sailor Galaxia is now a Universe+ level character. Yet she has not been upgraded to it? Can I upgrade her if this is what she's confirmed to be?
 
There's not enough info to prove that Queen Nehellenia affected the entire spacetime of the world. But it couldn't be a 3 dimensional universe as it was seperate from the main unvierse so it would need it's own time.
 
But if she supports the entire universe, wouldn't that mean she essentially can control it? I might edit this response based on reviewing her profile.

Okay, so if she supports the Dark World which is a complete universe. That means that when Eternal Sailor Moon onshotted her. Her attack should have been Universal+ in AP since that destroyed the Dark World aswell?
 
Well, Matthew is busy with other projects as well, so it might take a while.
 
Antvasima said:
Well, Matthew is busy with other projects as well, so it might take a while.
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I'm currently focusing on reading the manga myself. I would be happy to help with the Sailor Moon profiles and explaining feats.
 
Okay, but the staff is currently very busy with a content revision project, so we do not have the time right now.
 
Antvasima said:
Okay, but the staff is currently very busy with a content revision project, so we do not have the time right now.
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I see. Would it be alright if I simply listed the feats with explanations in a blog then? That way it shall be ready when its needed.
 
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