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Swamp Thing vs Asriel Dreemurr

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Going with Asriel cause reasons

Reason 1: Im going with Asriel who surpass his original 2-A form which again surpass another 2-A Being

Reason 2: I think Immortality is superior imo

Reason 3: Danmaku will be helpful somehow

Reason 4: I think Seven SOULS have greater immunity to Swamp Bodies soul stealing
 
@Elvis

Counterargument.

Okay, so Asriel is strong, why would it help him?

It really isn't, Swamp Thing has the best Regenerationn I've seen in fiction, there is nothing on Asriel's arsenal that makes him capable of killing him.

Danmaku will hit him but he will be regenerating as he is hit.

That is true.
 
I'm gonna side with Matt here. Swamp Thing can't be put down ever, at least not by Asriel. No amount of anything Asriel does will even tire him. Swamp Thing, however, can wear him down.
 
I don't know if Swamp Thing can destroy Asriel, but Asriel is not destroying Swamp Thing, not with that High-Godly Regenerationn, and Swamp Thing is also immune to Time Manipulation, which can help him a lot in this fight.
 
Bold textI'm leaning towards Asriel in first and god forms for this. Using even a fraction of his power destroyed an entire timeline, and his full power far exceeds that, making even max determination Frisk unable to do anything which is insane. -Asriel has control over all existence in this form capable of devouring the timeline itselfBold text''Bold text''' -Effortlessly called down and destroyed stars - Which, he did the previous two points with only a fraction of his full power -Frisk couldn't even scratch Asriel during their fight, (which, the game clearly tells us he's immortal in the stats) forcing him to hold out and force Asriel to remember who he was to stop him. Asriel has infinite attack and defense, making him unkillable. So in short, Asriel just erases the timeline, and swamp things gets erased.
 
Gg125 said:
Bold textI'm leaning towards Asriel in first and god forms for this. Using even a fraction of his power destroyed an entire timeline, and his full power far exceeds that, making even max determination Frisk unable to do anything which is insane.
You wrote bold text rather than actually putting words in bold text.
 
The real cal howard said:
Please don't quote large blocks of text. Slows down browsers and makes the thread hard to read. Don't worry. It's nothing serious. It's like a "Keep off the grass" sigh.
So should I erase all but the text I'm replying to?
 
"High-Godly Regenerationn: Able to regenerate even if your existence is erased and the reality you are within is destroyed."

Yeah, erasing timelines is not killing Swamp Thing.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
This is dumb.

Erasing a timeline does nothing to Swamp Thing.
explain what swamp thing can do to asriel. swamp thing can regenerate quickly, meaning he has limited health. however, asriel has unlimited. The thing is, Asriel has an ability that Swamp thing. does not. Swamp has no ability to save a point in time Because Asriel can purge all of time, Swamp would be permanently erased from reality from the reset of time. The only reason the kid survived is because he saw the human as a friend. And if purging the entire timeline wasn't strong enough, due to his ability to save, Asriel could stand still for eternity until Swamp lets his guard down and just absorb him like all the other Undertale characters. Without the human power of determination within their hearts, Asriel would absorb his little soul and become even more powerful. Even Chara can one hit swamp thing because he won't be able to regenerate, because chara's hits are instant kills. Same with Asriel. The reason why it wasn't an instant kill for frisk was because his determination was at its max, and asriel cared about him.
 
Swamp Thing regenerated from the collapse of an infinite multiverse. Erasing a measly timeline is not killing him. End of.

Ariel as a lot of powerful abilities on his side, but as does Swamp Thing. And while Asriel could maybe hold ST off for a while and give him some trouble fighting, he simply has nothing to put him down for good.

My vote goes to Swamp.
 
But, how can ST kill asriel? I mean, the guy will keep SAVE and LOAD and "But he refused", as his determination is leagues above Frisk's.
 
Hmm, well is ST's concept manipulation exclusive for his High 2-A form or not? As far as I know, it's the only thing in ST's arsenal that can put down Asriel.

If not, then Inconclusive, while ST's regen is, in fact, better. They both lack the hax to override it otherwise.
 
Hmmm, can you find any scans of Concept Manipulation / destruction for 2-A Swamp Thing? It is really the only thing other than anti-regen, multiple souls destruction, or mind manipulation that can take down Asriel
 
SomebodyData said:
Hmm, well is ST's concept manipulation exclusive for his High 2-A form or not? As far as I know, it's the only thing in ST's arsenal that can put down Asriel.
If not, then Inconclusive, while ST's regen is, in fact, better. They both lack the hax to override it otherwise.
Well from what I gather from Character statistics on this wiki, is that each tier for a character is separated with |. So if you look on Swamp Thing's Page, after the | it says Conceptual Manipulation. So I would take that as his High 2-A form only being able to do that.
 
Hmmm now that I think about it, Asriel doesn't really have any counter to that huh, gonna have to give it to ST for now then.
 
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