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Galactus must be about to die for Yhwach to give the finishing blow, otherwise, even if starving, he can reality warp Yhwach. Btw, Yhwach doesnt spam 5-B attacks, it seems he needs time/charging up.
 
Can't Yhwach prevent his own death via future manipulation?

Also I changed my vote to Galactus.
 
-BANLK- said:
Can't Yhwach prevent his own death via future manipulation?

Also I changed my vote to Galactus.
Yhwach's future manipulation can be countered by using Time manipulation, which Galactus has. Also, galactus has many ways to put Yhwach down without killing him.
 
Yhwach goes into the future and changes the future so that Galactus starves to death 😂. Easy win for Yhwach
 
Galactus creates a silver arrow using transmutation and shoots Yhwach (as Galactus has knowledge one Yhwach's weakness automatically because of power cosmic). Yhwach is good but Galactus is an OP version of Silver Surfer with even more hax. If Galactus wasn't a jobber he would be more respected than he is in versus forums
 
If you say Yhwach has no limits, then Yhwach wins.

If you don't want to use that fallacy, then Galactus stomps.
 
Can Yhwach ignore conventional durability? From what I know, he can merge with his opponent by altering the future right?
 
Sir Ovens said:
Can Yhwach ignore conventional durability? From what I know, he can merge with his opponent by altering the future right?
if galactus staving yhwach win

if galactus fed yhwach get blast to death
 
@Cal 8 (myself, Cropfist, Breloom, Soldier Blue, Joseph, God-King Superman, Damage and BANLK if he did change his vote) - 2 (Amlad and Fv5v7)

Your welcome :)
 
Uh, pretty sure Yhwach wins this considering his precog pretty much nullifies anything that Galactus does. The arguments are also fairly faulty. Nowhere does it state that time manipulation can trump his future manipulation which can pretty much screw with causality at this point. Nor do I see reality warping being a problem due to power nullification through the Almighty (and Yhwach should have Gremmy's reality warping anyways). So this pretty much throws Pachi's arguments under the wrench, and anyone who agrees with him.
 
Yhwach's future manipulation is nowehere near that potent. It took just tsukishima's past manipulation in order to override the effects of the Almighty. So yeah, time manipulation can screw with The Almighty.

Yhwach's precog is limited to the futures he sees, which Galactus himself can manipulate, so it won't get him anywhere.

Yhwach hasnt used power nullification in anyone of his level. Galactus also has matter manipulation and more haxes that can threaten Yhwach.
 
Tsukishima didn't revert the Almighty, he simply inserted a completely new history into Ichigo to restore his sword. So he created a new past. It had nothing to do with overriding the effects of the Almighty.

Yhwach's power nullification was able to cancel out some really conceptual schenanigans so it is up on the ladder of great haxes. Matter manipulation won't be a problem for Yhwach and I would need to know the other haxes to judge if they are.
 
I was talking about the "causality" thing, he didnt revert the effects, but was enough to override (as in countering) the "I have destroyed your bankai in the future and it wont change". Galactus can change the past as well as the future, which lets The Almighty in a frail position.

Matter manipulation combined with time manipulation is enough to shrug off anything Yhwach has to attack with.
 
Burning Full Fingers said:
I'm curious about that Power Cosmic stuff Joseph mentioned. Will it really allow him to know Yhwach's weakness?
Yes. Even Silver Surfer can use it very well
 
Also, Yhwach has moon durability, Galactus can oneshot him and prevent his resurrectiom via time manipulation.
 
Burning Full Fingers said:
Okay.
Anyway, Howard has already requested the result of this thread to be added to both relevant profiles.
Just sharing this scan with you since you asked
Powr Cosmic Silver Surfer
 
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