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Ditto vs SCP 682
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The definition of an inconclusive match xD
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lol :]WeeklyBattles said:
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I think the SCP Foundation loses.
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Seems to be an inconclusive match :]
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682. By gameplay, Ditto keeps his health no matter what it transforms into. By pokemon logic, Ditto would be very valuable if it became exact replicas of anything (Turn into Arceus complete with powers, etc.), but it isn't.
Also, 682's far less bound by laws than Ditto is. The thing's survived stuff that could easily wipe out the pokemon universe (bar god tiers that are around Mesprit level +).
Debatably a stomp.
Also, 682's far less bound by laws than Ditto is. The thing's survived stuff that could easily wipe out the pokemon universe (bar god tiers that are around Mesprit level +).
Debatably a stomp.
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That being said, the SCP foundation would probably shit their pants if they found a ditto that transformed into 682.
Hmm, I wonder what would happen if I had a large group of Dittos, and had them transform into 682, then release them into the wild to rampage...
Realistically though, ditto's still dumb and can't copy 100%.
Hmm, I wonder what would happen if I had a large group of Dittos, and had them transform into 682, then release them into the wild to rampage...
Realistically though, ditto's still dumb and can't copy 100%.
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Ditto used transform
SCP-682 Used bite
Ditto used bite
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And so on.
SCP-682 Used bite
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That's 7 for inconclusive, but I don't believe a match like this can be added on their profiles.
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Clever, but Ditto doesn't copy hp (by game) / can't copy everything (by everything else). I also haven't pointed this out yet, but 682 is supposed to be vastly different from normal things (people, ect) and so isn't easy to replicate. Though in theory that shouldn't be a problem for ditto considering it can transform into aliens and gods easily enough.LoyalservantofInti said:
Speaking of which, a Ditto owned by Green in the Adventures manga copied Mew physically, but couldn't copy its abilities / power. That's evidence that ditto can't fully copy abilities / powers.
Therefore this is a stomp. Close this thread?
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SCP-682 would more likely have high defense and special attack, not HP.Ghostly Owns said:
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Also: Ditto vs Ditto in the early Generations.
A wild Ditto appeared! Go, Ditto!
Ditto used Transform! It transformed into Ditto!
The wild Ditto used Transform! It transformed into Ditto!
Repeat infinitely. Early on, Transform copied everything, including Ditto itself and the Moves they have + the PP too. Thus, if that ever happened, winning/losing would be impossible, since the battle would never end and that they would never stop transforming.
A wild Ditto appeared! Go, Ditto!
Ditto used Transform! It transformed into Ditto!
The wild Ditto used Transform! It transformed into Ditto!
Repeat infinitely. Early on, Transform copied everything, including Ditto itself and the Moves they have + the PP too. Thus, if that ever happened, winning/losing would be impossible, since the battle would never end and that they would never stop transforming.
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We don't follow those game mechanics here...Please do not use game stats as an argument...Same goes for PP.
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Meh, just check 682's stats. It has high regen, and HP too (it can sustain lots of damage and can keep moving / attacking). Point stands though that Ditto can't fully copy 682 (assuming it can copy 682 at all), and therefore loses as an inferior version of 682.
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Ditto copies everything on the foes. There's a reason everyone is voting inconclusive. We can't use Game Mechanics to determine limitations for Transform.
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Dragon is right Ghostly, this match is clearly inconclusive.
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I made a point earlier that Ditto indeed has copying limitations. One's noted in the manga, one's founded in logic.
Manga: in Pokemon Adventures, Green has a Ditto that transformed into Mew. It was shown however to be bouncing around; it couldn't copy Mew's psychic powers. Of course, that could've been because (I think) all Green had was a photo of Mew.
Logic (arguement to absurdity): If Ditto could indeed copy everything about a target, then Ditto could therefore copy something like, say, Arceus. Or any Tier 0/1/2/whatever for that matter. And gain the respective powers. And do stuff equal in power. Like creating universes and the like. That's probably a NFL, though this arguement could be NFL itself.
Thoughts?
Manga: in Pokemon Adventures, Green has a Ditto that transformed into Mew. It was shown however to be bouncing around; it couldn't copy Mew's psychic powers. Of course, that could've been because (I think) all Green had was a photo of Mew.
Logic (arguement to absurdity): If Ditto could indeed copy everything about a target, then Ditto could therefore copy something like, say, Arceus. Or any Tier 0/1/2/whatever for that matter. And gain the respective powers. And do stuff equal in power. Like creating universes and the like. That's probably a NFL, though this arguement could be NFL itself.
Thoughts?
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This...Why? I mean obviously inconclusive, but still, this is like trying to see the reflection of a mirror, it just goes back and forth forever.
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Also gonna put some facts down from Bulbapedia, which might clarify stuff for future reference.
From Ditto's page.
It is capable of transforming into an exact replica of any physical object.
Ditto cannot mimic the strength of another Pokémon, but it will adapt the form and abilities of its foe.
From Ditty's page (Ditty is Green's Ditto)
When Red and Blue finished their training Ditty was waiting for them Transformed as Deoxys, allowing the two to get an understanding of what they were fighting.
(Shows that Ditto by canon can indeed copy legendary pokemon, though to what degree isn't known)
From Ditto's page.
It is capable of transforming into an exact replica of any physical object.
Ditto cannot mimic the strength of another Pokémon, but it will adapt the form and abilities of its foe.
From Ditty's page (Ditty is Green's Ditto)
When Red and Blue finished their training Ditty was waiting for them Transformed as Deoxys, allowing the two to get an understanding of what they were fighting.
(Shows that Ditto by canon can indeed copy legendary pokemon, though to what degree isn't known)
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Though I won't bother making arguements for now, I just want to see what others think.
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I'd hand it to 682. Like it has been stated earlier, Ditto is a mimic, not a master. It will not be as powerful as 682, so... 682 is greater in power. I'm not sure if it would end in death, as thus far 682 has proven immortal, but it would surely be 682's victory power wise.
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Well, there's too many inconclusive for me not to close it and have it be inconclusive and me putting it in.
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