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Omega Titans revision

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Hello everyone! It's been a while since the Omega Titans are Unknown and now it's time to give them a proper tier! The informations of this thread are mostly from this blog.

Feats & Statements
Okay first of all, the Omega Titans are somewhat featlesses so, i would do with the little i have. They have at least shown good feats of durability since the likes of Superman is said to be nothing to them even the telepaths like Starro was not enough to stop the titans.

  • The Omega Titans absorb galaxies for energy and are large enough to crush Earth in a fist.
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  • The wisdom's titan see the likes of Superman, Wonder Woman and Etrigan as bugs and fleas to be swatted away on the breeze and resisted of bring mind-controlled by Starro and killed him.
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The Omega Titans superior to Barbatos?
Okay first of all, at the end of Dark Nights: Metal, it was mentioned that the Justice League would face bigger and badder threats as well the statement of them being the biggest threat the Justice League faced during No Justice which happened right after Dark Nights Metal snd was written by the same author. While such statements can be seen as hyperbole and isn't literal, it also suggest that the Omega Titans are a bigger threat than Barbatos and since that story was after the Barbatos's one, i think it was intentional rather than hyperbolic statements. Plus, they have the power to end everything. Hell, they were builts to heal and seal the Source Wall when breached so, they a greater place in the cosmic order. They don't have anti-feats that should deny the 2-A rating.

  • The Omega Titans are the biggest threat the Justice League faced.
  • They have the power to destroy the universe.
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Possible 1-A rating?
They didn't show any 1-A feats on their owns, take note that the Omega Titans were made to heal and seal the Source Wall when damaged by finding a handful of planets ripe enough with their respective energies and then repair the Source Wall. It is they very sole purpose and while they can't be only 1-A, the 1-A rating can be a second tier after absorbing energy.

Powers & Abilities
Okay i added many scans which show what the Omega Titans can do. Let me know your thoughts about that list of abilities.

  • Life Manipulation: Spreaded life throughout the universe with seeds of cosmic energy.
  • Information Analysis: A tree made out of informations spawn to determine which of their energies is dominant on a planet.
Conclusion
How can we rank the Omega Titans? The absorbing galaxies stuff sounds impresive but lacks context to the point that even ranking them to 3-C is doubtful since they feed on planets riped enough with their respective energies. However, they can be 2-A since at least one scan suggest them being a bigger threat than Barbatos as i explained. Maybe also a possible 1-A rating since they were basically built for fixing the Source Wall and keep Perpetua locked away. The other option if the 2-A rating is rejected is to rank them to At least 4-B since multiple 4-B characters like Superman are bugs for them and can none of their attacks are even effective against them.

Option 1: 2-A, possibly 1-A after absorbing energy

Option 2: At least 4-B, possibly 1-A after absorbing energy

Thank you everyone!
 
Everything seems fine on a first glance, but do we even rate the source wall at 1-A in this wiki?
 
Everything about 4-B and 2-A seems very firm, and I see no way to someone counter it for now.

I'm not going with any of the 2 options, but a third: At least 4-B, 2-A.

About 1-A, i disagree. These two scans:

1. Metron talking with Desaad

2. Takion leaving his plan and crossing the multiverse until he got to the source wall and then enters the source.

About the first, this is not saying that it is beyond any measure of space and time, but of any known measures in the universe, Byrne in this comic loves to keep saying that there are known and unknown dimensions, but that does not mean that this is 1-A, but rather that his characters do not know all dimensions in the multiverse.

For example, here he says that source is "Beyond time, beyond space" but soon after he says it is "An Extradimensional realm which is at once nowhere and everywhere". Soon after in the same scan he still states the following "A structure which itself spanned all dimensions, known and unkown"

So we already know that he's talking only about the basic dimensions of time and space, not all, which takes the unknowns out of the game.

And on the first scan, in the same chapter, Metron was using his technology to mess with the dimensionality of the source wall and move the giants of the wall.

About takion, he only managed to reach a 1-A realms after it passed the source wall, when he entered the source, which the source has a very contrary description and higher levels than the wall.

The source wall is consistently something that is called as pandimensional, so i see no reason why it is 1-A.
 
At least 4-B, 2-A can work. Maybe 1-B for the Source Wall then?
 
I don't think it's "Possibly" the description in the scans is pretty blatant. And yes, 1-B for the questions of the source wall.
 
Okay so At least 4-B, 2-A, 1-B after absorbing energy since they can work together to heal the Source Wall.
 
I think however that (2-A, 1-B after absorbing energy) is fine because they were obviously a bigger threat than Barbatos who is 2-A.

There is multiple evidences about that.
 
Tbh I still disagree with scaling Omega Titans into Tier 1 because of the Wall. The fact that they're a built in repair mechanism that only works when all 4 McGuffin energies come together means no individual Titan would be able to effect the Wall in any meaningful way on its own.

I think they should just be 2-A because their story is the direct sequel to Barbatos by the same author and they were stated to be a bigger threat.
 
But isn't it a profile of all 4 titans together? I mean, if it's a profile of all titans together, it doesn't matter if they can't do it alone unless everyone had their own profile.
 
POTM What about 2-A, 1-B collectively after absorbing energy? The 1-B is only when working together and when well fed.
 
Even so, any Tier 1 thing would only apply to a very specific scenario, when all four are charged and mingling their energies into a specific broken cosmic object at the same time. I think it would be better to give viewers of the profile a more accurate view of how the Titans actually are.

@Elizio

The whole "working together" thing is what I'm trying to avoid. There's no reason to believe all four working together would be able to let off any, like, 1-A attacks or anything. All that happens is that the Wall takes the plot power they collected and uses it to heal itself.
 
So, just 2-A is better and we count the Source Wall stuff as hax?
 
I also agree with POTM.
 
@POTM

Would you be willing to apply this?
 
Thank you. I will unlock the page. Tell me here when you are done.
 
Thank you for helping out. I will close this thread then.
 
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