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Perpetua vs Thanos

thanos only became a single universe, TOAA not being able to fix 1 universe is an anti-feat against 1-A


and I don't wanna hear AAO is an avatar of TOAA crap, TOAA has been RETCONNED, he's not a writer's avatar anymore
 
If you're using that instance, then I guess Oblivion is now only 6-B because Iceman defeated him. We use the consistent feats of characters, and AAO has been shown to be seen as omnipotent by the likes of The Living Tribunal (TLT mentions this multiple times).

Also, you'd have to debate several admins to ever get that even remotely accepted, and I'm sure it will get soundly rejected.
 
I made the first thread when the preview came out.

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3514523

for some reason rational discussion was viewed as lowballing by some members here so thread was closed to wait for the issue come out to discuss tiering. which does make sense. yet a couple weeks later I see regulator thanos being 1A already.

the new issue isn't even available yet, and regulator thanos is already 1A now? gimme a break

The reason why TOAA/AAO is one and the same is because he is the on Living Tribunal works for and the supreme being of all realitieS under Starlin

https://i.imgur.com/xcwxCTh.jpg

not to mention, AAO is the definition of non-omnipotent as

1 he admitted HIMSELF

https://i.imgur.com/QdryGA1.jpg

2. he lost to regulator thanos, if AAO is omnipotent, then what about Regulator Thanos? beyond omnipotent? That's where all the wanking begins. Instead of seeing this as a low feat that company supreme being gets his ass handed to him in the next issue preview.

https://thanosfarm.tumblr.com/post/187427176743/thanos-the-infinity-ending-preview-½-the

Marvel fans spin it around and claim that it's a high feat for thanos. after becoming everything within a single reality, Thanos was powerful enough to kill/absorb LT AND TOAA... And even after absorbing TOAA, he still seemed to only be acting in a universal capacity. other than one panel on this page that goes a little meta, multiple panel on the same page reference universe in a singular sense

https://imgur.com/49zbyEr

Infinity Ending is completely universal event.


"I, Thanos of Titan, am now all that there is within the boundaries of THIS reality!": https://i.imgur.com/pymsfM6.jpg

"We demand your subservience and that you return the UNIVERSE to its previous state!": https://i.imgur.com/OOevJYR.jpg
 
Calling everybody on those threads "Marvel fans" is not even a remotely good argument.

I also only said that AAO was viewed as omnipotent by The Living Tribunal, and not that he was omnipotent (we don't even use that term for Tier 0 anymore).
 
Unoriginal Memes said:
So how about you try complaining on a Content Revision Thread instead of clogging up a Versus Thread.
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you seem to be rustled by this

I bring ON PANEL scans and arguments to "clogging up" a vs thread, you are the one who's whining. I don't agree with regulator Thanos being on 1A level thus he cannot contend with Perpetua. Of course it's my personal opinion. Or do we have to pretend a Thanos W/Regulator has the imaginary feats to suggest he's 1A just for the sake of this?

just like you have your personal opinion which I'm sure I don't agreed with. but if you want a rational discussion. You can bring scans and evidences then form an argument regarding the subject matter. That's how debates works.

I never called EVERYONE"marvel fans", read again. Just some, which I dont even see it as an insult calling a spade spade. I am a DC fan myself, I wouldn't get mad if someone call me out on it.
 
If you haven't noticed yet, we judge the results of a fight based on the profiles, not based on how one person interprets a character's feats. If you disagree, make a CRT, although it will almost certaintly get rejected.
 
Unoriginal Memes said:
If you haven't noticed yet, we judge the results of a fight based on the profiles, not based on how one person interprets a character's feats. If you disagree, make a CRT, although it will almost certaintly get rejected.
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it's good to know you never read comic books in your life. and you generally are a mindless sheep and very very weird

I read the original materials, you know....the comics themselves.....

maybe you haven't been around battle forums for the last 10 years...but what we quality debators have been doing are reading the comic books, interpret the feats and showing in the original comic books, instead of reading wiki pages like a noob (in this case you)


also, you interpret the forum rules wrong, I suggest you read again

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Versus_Thread_Rules


also Perpetua stomps
 
We use the profiles on this website. You can ask literally any admin, and they'll say the same.

And your only reason as to why Perpetua stomps is that "Thanos shouldn't be 1-A", which he is.
 
Wow...

Bit of an ego there, Owennoctis. Word of advice, talking down to people is generally not the way to go. It'll make people just not want to agree with you even if you have a point.

Futhermore, Unoriginal Memes is correct. Profiles are what we here as our reference and guide (plus any threads that further elaborate on them) to characters/verses. If what you're talking about isn't reflected on the profile then it's not relevant to Versus threads until the profile is changed. That's the system, for better or worse.

With that said, if you think you're so right, how about you go to Content Revision and make your case there to get Thanos' rating changed?
 
Most of Owennoctis' comments here are literally just derailment, on top of some being aggressive, either he should delete those or I will it myself.

Any information is only good when shared, whatever said in a vsthread that's not in a profile could as well be inaccurate, nobody is meant to judge those like it's a CRT, nobody important may even be there at all, why would they? Meanwhile everything slightly controversial in a profile was added there due to being previously accepted on discussions between knowledgeable people within CRTs.
 
But since Perpetua casually stomped the brothers when they combined I think Perpetua stomps.
 
C2 of Omegon said:
Wow...
Bit of an ego there, Owennoctis. Word of advice, talking down to people is generally not the way to go. It'll make people just not want to agree with you even if you have a point.

Futhermore, Unoriginal Memes is correct. Profiles are what we here as our reference and guide (plus any threads that further elaborate on them) to characters/verses. If what you're talking about isn't reflected on the profile then it's not relevant to Versus threads until the profile is changed. That's the system, for better or worse.

With that said, if you think you're so right, how about you go to Content Revision and make your case there to get Thanos' rating changed?
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I just don't get the point of making character profile be-all end-all

when original materials (comics) are accessible, you see my point?

but yes I will go make a thread in content revision

either way Perpetua wins this .
 
Can you stop derailing this thread please?
 
This thread is going interesting directions, will subscribe

Wasn't the Regulator a threat to all planes of reality? Plus a single universe in Marvel is already 2-A alone. Also AAO is pretty clearly not TOAA, considering TOAA is still appearing in separate stories more akin to his common perception.
 
I'm 'pretty' certain that Perpetua is far higher on the 1-A scale than Thanos is.

Perpetua >>>>>>>>>>>>> True Form Overmonitor, Anti-Monitor, World Forger >= Thought Robot >= Mandrakk >>>>>> Monitor Sphere > Monitors > Limbo > Baseline

Thanos>> Above All Others > House of Ideas >= Oblivion >= Baseline
 
Yeah, I don't think Marvel has anyone that can contend against DC 1A
 
LordUrien935 said:
I'm 'pretty' certain that Perpetua is far higher on the 1-A scale than Thanos is.
Perpetua >>>>>>>>>>>>> True Form Overmonitor, Anti-Monitor, World Forger >= Thought Robot >= Mandrakk >>>>>> Monitor Sphere > Monitors > Limbo > Baseline

Thanos>> Above All Others > House of Ideas >= Oblivion >= Baseline
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Pretty much this
 
Owennoctis said:
I made the first thread when the preview came out.
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3514523

for some reason rational discussion was viewed as lowballing by some members here so thread was closed to wait for the issue come out to discuss tiering. which does make sense. yet a couple weeks later I see regulator thanos being 1A already.

the new issue isn't even available yet, and regulator thanos is already 1A now? gimme a break

The reason why TOAA/AAO is one and the same is because he is the on Living Tribunal works for and the supreme being of all realitieS under Starlin

https://i.imgur.com/xcwxCTh.jpg

not to mention, AAO is the definition of non-omnipotent as

1 he admitted HIMSELF

https://i.imgur.com/QdryGA1.jpg

2. he lost to regulator thanos, if AAO is omnipotent, then what about Regulator Thanos? beyond omnipotent? That's where all the wanking begins. Instead of seeing this as a low feat that company supreme being gets his ass handed to him in the next issue preview.

https://thanosfarm.tumblr.com/post/187427176743/thanos-the-infinity-ending-preview-½-the

Marvel fans spin it around and claim that it's a high feat for thanos. after becoming everything within a single reality, Thanos was powerful enough to kill/absorb LT AND TOAA... And even after absorbing TOAA, he still seemed to only be acting in a universal capacity. other than one panel on this page that goes a little meta, multiple panel on the same page reference universe in a singular sense

https://imgur.com/49zbyEr

Infinity Ending is completely universal event.


"I, Thanos of Titan, am now all that there is within the boundaries of THIS reality!": https://i.imgur.com/pymsfM6.jpg

"We demand your subservience and that you return the UNIVERSE to its previous state!": https://i.imgur.com/OOevJYR.jpg
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I bought this comics and Thanos was going to destroy Multiverse . Pls stop making non-sense.
 
I say Thanos with the regulator wins. He absorbed AAO along with his universes major aspects of reality (Death, Chaos, Order, The Infinity Gems which are multiversal even in their own universe, Galactus, Infinity, Eternity, the 616 version of Tribunal, then he went on to defeat and absorb the true state of Tribunal and AAO). Perpetua needs a good recharge to after destroying a single universe.

I initially assumed at the ending of Infinity: Siblings when Thanos absorbed Tribunal it was his True Multiversal state (probably still is) he lost the regulator but Infinity: Ending showed that there is another Tribunal that Thanos could absorb and he could also absorb AAO and he still has access to the regulator. I.e he's (in my opinion) absorbing Perpetua just as easily and adding the totality of her power to his.

So not only is going on to remake the DC verse in his image, he has every single power from all levels of dimensional structures sans the level of The Source and is reveling in his new found might.

Then he arbitrarily gives it up cause he wants to defeat himself.
 
Owennoctis said:
on the other hand perpetua is omniversal in the infinite multiverses

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80518/6897137-0147744403-Hv5aV.jpg

DC cosmic structure is multiple higher level of existences to reach archetypal infinity

even being she created aka World Forger can create 2 multiverses with HYPERTIME
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In this quote it says she created the UNIVERSE before the current one to be a dangerous self sustaining weapon. Based on your arguments the very link you posted would make Perpetua a mere universal level being too. We know she created the multiverse but here it says universe so now based off of that panel I could ask for a content revision to make her universal and I would have the proof for the downgrade thanks to you. we also know that Thanos absorbed his entire universe before going on to challenge AAO and absorb him too. So in his bout with AAO and Tribunal he's already at least 2-A since all marvel abstracts at their universal scalings are 2-A. Just cause the author uses universe in franchises such as Marvel and DC it doesn't take away from the fact that the greater Multiverse or Omniverse is in actuality the subject of said universe statement.
 
No, 1-A Perpetua stomps because she's far higher on the 1-A scale than either Thanos or AAO. Hell, even TOAA wouldn't be able to beat her.
 
I disagree. Whiles DC only has 52 normal universes Marvel trumps that many times over with its thousands. It took perpetua at full power to just destroy one of these universes and then she stated it would take her some time to gather the energies needed to to that same feat again. She's not infinitely more powerful as you erroneously claim.
 
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