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Kenshiro ability upgrades possible Kaioh upgrade, HNK revisions in general

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Hi everyone Grudgeman here with a proposition. Yesterday while scrolling through the wiki I saw antvasima update a page called "void manipulation" naturallly thos peaked my interest so i clicked on it and began reading, when I finished I realized that Kenshiro might actually have void manipulation and here's why. According to this wiki void manipulation is, "power over the void and non-existence. Void often refers to complete nothingness, a total lack of existence. Now when I read this I remembered Kenshiros Museo tensei does just that and I have evidence. If you look at the scans you will read two description for Museo tensei from both the Kens rage games and you see it taps into the power of nothingness. Some of you may ask "but Museo tensei erases atoms does this mean well here's the thing it might do both. We have seen in parts of the manga Kenshiro utilizing Museo tensei in some ways here's some scans to prove it. All I want to propose is we just add "void manipulation" to kenshiros Arsenal along with Raoh since he can use Museo tensei as well any further questions please ask and I will respond in a flash.

Second proposition Kaioh and hyoh. Now it's nothing big but while researching i read up on a couple of interesting things to add. For starters I think Kaioh and hyoh and possibly Kenshiro all have also slight space manipulation because in the manga kaiohs MaToki had anti gravity effects and the game itself proved my hunch as well. I say this might apply to Kenshiro because he can use hokuto ryuuken as well since he learns all of his fallen rivals styles.

I want to know from you guys is can we put this into Kens profile along with the my other propositions.
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Museo tensei description from Kens rage 2

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Kens rage 2 descriptio

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Ken can turn people's bodies like stone and they shatter at the sight of hokuto stars. Cool useful ability

Kenproof10
This is Kens rage 1 description to Museo tensei same one as two

Breathless combat
Ken and Kaioh can fight without air for an indefinite amount of time

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Toki no aura 12
Ken and Raoh have auras that can kill and fight with them. Part 1

Mighty aura123
Raoh and Kens aura description part two

Matoki description 457
Kaioh and Hyohs demon auras

Demonaura115
Matoki aura description part two

Gravitydemon
Finally this is where is says the ant gravity effect on the victim also it does this with the environment

Atom museo
This fat dudes arms were completely gone, no blood spill, no bones no nothing, safe to say they were erased from Museo tensei

Deatomizationproof1
Second proof he's using Museo tensei and spitting atoms this guy was about to hit Ken with a cell destroying attack and Ken erased his arm part 1

Secondhalfatom
Second half of said proof
 
Disagree on void manipulation, it is virtually indisguishable from lower level feats of disintegration/destruction (i.e. cellular, molecular, atomic) and thus I don't think Ken gets it, especially considering the other descriptions of the technique
 
I agree with Alakabamm.
 
Alakabamm said:
Disagree on void manipulation, it is virtually indisguishable from lower level feats of disintegration/destruction (i.e. cellular, molecular, atomic) and thus I don't think Ken gets it, especially considering the other descriptions of the technique
Wait hold on (sorry went somewhere) but what about the description from the games and the description from the website of void manipulation
 
CrossverseCrisis said:
Welp, that settles it. Kenshiro and Raoh just have molecular/atomic destruction.
What about the other stuff I proposed cross do they not help
 
Alakabamm said:
Disagree on void manipulation, it is virtually indisguishable from lower level feats of disintegration/destruction (i.e. cellular, molecular, atomic) and thus I don't think Ken gets it, especially considering the other descriptions of the technique
Alkazamnn though does the definition match with the websites description though I don't understand are you saying atomic destruction is the same as void destruction
 
Atomic destruction =/= void manipulation.

I also disagree on it being void manipulation. Most of the things that would pass as being void manipulation in the description are just flowery descriptions of the means required to get it.
 
Promestein said:
Atomic destruction =/= void manipulation.

I also disagree on it being void manipulation. Most of the things that would pass as being void manipulation in the description are just flowery descriptions of the means required to get it.
What do you mean
 
Hmm. No offense Grudge but now that i think about it, shouldnt Ken and Raoh having atomic destruction be good enough for ya? It's just enough broken hax on top of being intangible/impervious to physical attacks, no?
 
CrossverseCrisis said:
Hmm. No offense Grudge but now that i think about it, shouldnt Ken and Raoh having atomic destruction be good enough for ya? It's just enough broken hax on top of being intangible/impervious to physical attacks, no?
I'm not try upgrade them I just thought it was an ability they had because of the description
 
Oh okay. i see. But i think what they have good enough anyways in my opinion because of how broken it is. I mean i'm cool with it as it is. *shrugs*
 
CrossverseCrisis said:
Hmm. No offense Grudge but now that i think about it, shouldnt Ken and Raoh having atomic destruction be good enough for ya? It's just enough broken hax on top of being intangible/impervious to physical attacks, no?
Also what about the second proposition about Matoki being slight space Manipulation you can look it up it does say warping space in the environment
 
CrossverseCrisis said:
Oh okay. i see. But i think what they have good enough anyways in my opinion because of how broken it is. I mean i'm cool with it as it is. *shrugs*
I am too I just thought it "might" be an ability they have but seeing as 4 admins said no proposition 1 is dead
 
Atomic destruction is reall just splitting up the atoms into their component parts, void manipulation would be complete annhilation.
 
Alakabamm said:
Atomic destruction is reall just splitting up the atoms into their component parts, void manipulation would be complete annhilation.
Ahh okay I'm just going by description since both definitions match the websites description plus the manga says its essence was nothingness and must return to nothingness but if you say no I understand and appreciate your opinion also thank you for replying
 
CrossverseCrisis said:
Oh okay. i see. But i think what they have good enough anyways in my opinion because of how broken it is. I mean i'm cool with it as it is. *shrugs*
Hey does the mighty aura description I put in help Kenshiro and Raoh at all not with void just for as another thing they can do with hokuto Shinken since they basically get an automatic defense that can kill
 
It does. Hell Raoh's Toki was powerful and great enough that he can have it punch his opponents without having to lift his own arms.

Aside that, are you done with this topic thread here or....?
 
CrossverseCrisis said:
It does. Hell Raoh's Toki was powerful and great enough that he can have it punch his opponents without having to lift his own arms.

Aside that, are you done with this topic thread here or....?
Still waiting for the answer for the slight space manipulation for Kaioh and hyoh because of Matoki
 
CrossverseCrisis said:
It does. Hell Raoh's Toki was powerful and great enough that he can have it punch his opponents without having to lift his own arms.

Aside that, are you done with this topic thread here or....?
Are you going to add that to Ken and Raoh then
 
CrossverseCrisis said:
Could try to do that later, yes. On the Ki punching parts, i mean. *Nods*
Cool once ALakabamm replies back I will close the thread and move on
 
Well I am not sure if anti-gravity disorientation is really space manipulation...more like a type of mental interference.
 
So, has anybody inserted atomic destruction as an ability? If so, we can probably close this thread.
 
Nope nvrmind, Kenshiro does have it on his page. If one bothers to look closely at his powers and abilities taht is....
 
Well, I will close this then.
 
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