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Yet another Jojo vs Rakudai match. Diavolo vs Moroboshi

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Nothing really but bloodlusted Moroboshi would likely go for Barrier creation (around himself, kind of doubling the durability), and power nulling with his spear (if his spear or magic comes in contact with Diavolo or KC it will null, same thing happens if KC were to so much as graze the spear as he uses the donut combo).
 
@Emperor

Diavolo's prediction comes as an extention of KC (his stand), he can't see a future where Epitah is nulled. Since Epitah can't predict if it gets nulled.

@Tri

KC's punches are physical though. Otherwise he wouldn't be able to deal physical damage to people. He deals physical damage, the barriers are meant to stop just that. So i guess it would.
 
Paul Frank said:
It's physical damage dealt by a non corporeal though
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It's still on a physical level. It's either physical or non-corporeal. The non coporeal can hit corporeal matter, if he can hit corporeal matter it will be stopped by the barrier. Non-Corporeality would usually apply to hitting the non-corporeal, not to him hitting you.
 
CrackerVolley said:
Question: Can KC time skip around the Tiger Bite?
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Seems a bit doubtful as it will null KC itself (precog, time skip etc). So it shouldn't be able to skip if it's nulled.
 
Ok, then KC predicts it's activation and skips time before its activation (unless it somehow pulls Diavolo out of the time skip state).
 
Well that's really the only superpower Jojo has. Stands. So by verse equalization the power null would instead work on stands.
 
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Ok, then KC predicts it's activation and skips time before its activation (unless it somehow pulls Diavolo out of the time skip state).
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KC cannot predict what the Tiger Bite does though. So it cannot exactly prepare or anticipate it's effects.

And time skipping before it's activation? Why would time skip be faster than the tiger bite activation?
 
Hamon, spin, vampires, and the other abilities that are arguably actual magic are more magical than stands
 
Vampires magical?

Besides Stands are the closest to magic tbh. Since tiger bite works on devices as well which are manifestations of one's soul. Stands are similar for a person.
 
When did i say that? Im saying exactly that it will null the stand too.

Why is it faster? Both are activation based.
 
Yes, epitath is passive ok, but the time skip is not. So while he can preditc that a giant tiger would come outta nowhere, he cannot stop it.

He also cannot predict that this giant tiger would null his stand. He would likely see a blank.
 
He will predict what Moroboshi will do (attack him with tiger bite), but he cannot predict what will happen if he grazes tiger bite.

Not to mention that tiger bite can be done without summoning the tiger at all. Just power the spear with power null (no visual effect), so that anyone who touches it gets nulled.

@Emperordoom

Not exactly, that's the case if it goes like "Yuudai activates first he wins" vs "Diavolo activates first, he wins". That's inconc. Here even if Yuudai activates first he won't exactly instantly win, same for Diavolo as he can lose even if he activates first.
 
Ok, but Diavolo is bloodlusted, would not want to be hit by the spear regardless due his poor durability, and would likely one-shot Giorno. (he could've killed Giorno/Gold Experience, someone already pretty well into 8-C, in one hit if GER wasn't unleashed at that same moment).
 
Yes he would not want to get hit by the spear, but that wouldn't give him knowledge on not to so much as graze the spear. I mean he can literally go for the hit and if he touches the spear with that hit it's GG.

Also the magic barrier would take care of the donut. It wouldn't last forever but it should last a considerable amount of time. Also i think Moroboshi scales to about 1.5 tons, am not sure.
 
Diavolo would see his powers nulled, Epitaph getting nulled in the future doesn't affect Epitaph in the present. So Diavolo will dodge it just fine with time erasure. Magic Barrier gets bypassed by non-corporeality. King Crimson can just punch Yuudai getting past the barrier, even if it's attached to the character's skin, as he just decides to attack just Yuudai and not the barrier. Though I will admit it will probably take him a hit or two to realize it, he's definitely pulling it out before Yuudai can do anything.
 
Hmm not really. Epitah sees what's going to happen, it cannot see what it cannot reach. If epitah gets nulled it would result in just seeing a blank. That moment in the future epitah won't be able to see cus at that moment in the future it will be nulled. So it cannot see if it's powers aren't working, you dig me?

Same as how it could not predict GER's zero reset.
 
It couldn't predict zero reset because GER resists precognition.

And it doesn't matter. As I said above, the stand getting nulled in the future doesn't affect how it works in the present. If Epitaph is going to get nulled in the future, Diavolo would still be able to see it getting nulled. What you're proposing is that Yuudai can power null people in the past, which is something he cannot do.
 
What's this barrier's range? Because Diavolo can just phase through it during the erased time.
 
@Triforce

False, GER doesn't resist precog, idk where you got that from. Diavolo could clearly see GER's actions, ALL of GER's actions, "besides" zero reset, which was going to f up everything regarding his stand. Which is exactly what i said, he could see up to when epitah gets f-ed up in the future. In that case it was zero reset, in this case it's gonna be p null.

@DMB 1

Skin, but he'd have to realize it is there at all, from outside it looks like he's just a durable dude. So while im not gonna say he's never gonna understand it, it's gonna take a bunch of hits and tries before he realizes something is up or just tries the phasing either way cus why not.
 
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