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Ainchase Ishmael vs Archie Illumina

What do these two lead with? Can type 2 conceptual manipulation take care of mid godly regen?
 
Yes, conceptual manipulation bypasses Mid-Godly.

We never see Illumina herself in an actual fight, but her dark half Void was corrupting and erasing Maginaryworld with his mere presence.

As for Ainchase, I know he has corruption abilities himself, but IDK anything else about him.
 
Nice. Hm. They both have ways to incap each other. I'm gonna wait for more input from the others before I press the inconclusive button.
 
Concept Manip Type 2 doesn't explicitly bypass mid-godly, though if their particular brand does then that's cool.
 
@Mr. Bambu Depends on the level of Mid-Godly.

If the Mid-Godly is "I can come back even after having my concept erased" then conceptual manipulation doesn't bypass it.
 
Ainchase got back from being erased on a 4-D level even in base, before Lofty: Wanderer even came into existence. Also, Herrscher leads with his passive multiversal existence erasure + corruption that works even on type 1 non-existent beings. Since he is "void/non-existence", existence is erased when it somehow gets in contact with non-existence. Plus, Chaos and Entropy are the very concepts of destruction of both physical (Anything that can be classified as bound by space-time) and non-physical/ethereal (the opposite of the former.), both of which Herrcher has total control over.


Theres also the fact that Herrscher is on a "higher level" of non-existence, being unaffected by things that would normally affect type 1 non-existent beings. And theres Henir, a god who existed before non-existence and exists on a higher level, transcending space-time and its concepts (basically a High 2-A), fuelling Herrscher
 
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