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Lord English VS The Transcendence

why are the transendace low 1B for being infinitely superior there was a whole thread about about how being infinities does not give you a dimension jump
 
For transcending 11-D spacetime and existing on a higher level of existence than reachable by 11-D technology
 
CrimsonStarFallen said:
English can win with double death. What can this guy do?
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In character he starts with absorbing disembodied Consciousness (soul absorbtion) but he has other stuff
 
In character he starts with absorbing disembodied Consciousness (soul absorbtion) but he has other stuff

In character Lord English either mocks the enemy or he blasts the enemy with a energy beam to double death. He also destroys everything around.
 
Actually by the time Caliborn becomes Lord English, he stops mocking people (Heck, he barely talks) and just goes for the kill
 
I should ask ultima for input since he knows causality stuff better than me

How good is English mind resistance?
 
The Reason that's important is that Transcendence can absorb an infinite amount of minds/souls across all of spacetime and dimensions
 
Both has good chance in shooting first honestly. Lord has Omnipresence afterall.

But Transcen has Nigh-Omniscience. They can simulate the future (including whole multiverse far into the future Iirc) in zero time. In pure computing power Transcendence has Lord beaten.

Lord has Clairvoyance and other timeline haxes though so Nigh-Omniscient is probably equaled.

But I'm betting on Transc going Mind/Soul absorbing spree or cosmic genocide right off the bat because of their forecasting mind. The next question is wether Lord can withstand Transcen's Conceptual powers or not.

Location in space and time is irrelevant to Transcen. So I don't see how would Lord reach Transc. Transcen is also independent of material universe, existing in full abstract state.

Can Lord kill Conceptual being?

It gets better, Transcen can manipulate informational world above physical reality to counter any Reality Warping Caliborn has.

Transcen also can bypass Mid-Godly and kill Type 8.

Umm, I think voting for Transcen right now.
 
English's whole shtick is being able to kill conceptual gods that otherwise need special circumstances to die. He kills them so throughly that they don't even appear in the afterlife. For the record, yes, he abuses said power.

Inconclusive, it's who shoots first.
 
Then there's no 'shoot first' here. Both already did shoot first. Now its just reality warping contest.

The Wright Way said:
English's whole shtick is being able to kill conceptual gods that otherwise need special circumstances to die. He kills them so throughly that they don't even appear in the afterlife. For the record, yes, he abuses said power.
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Example about nature of said Conceptual beings?

It seems both have full control over conceptual realm. So maybe Lord can bypass Type 5 Acausality?
 
Lucis=the=Lumenian said:
Then there's no 'shoot first' here. Both already did shoot first. Now its just reality warping contest.
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Example about nature of said Conceptual beings?

It seems both have full control over conceptual realm. So maybe Lord can bypass Type 5 Acausality?

They embody an abstract concept inside of whatever multiverse (they say universe but given that they contain infinite timelines, they're a multiverse by our standards) they helped create. Dave Strider embodies Time in his multiverse for instance. There is a loophole if said being was acting heroically or villainously when they died they stay dead but English doesn't need that to kill them.
 
The Wright Way said:
They embody an abstract concept inside of whatever multiverse (they say universe but given that they contain infinite timelines, they're a multiverse by our standards) they helped create. Dave Strider embodies Time in his multiverse for instance. There is a loophole if said being was acting heroically or villainously when they died they stay dead but English doesn't need that to kill them.
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Thank you, so Lord can kill Transcen and bypass Mid Godly.

The next fight would be inside 'game catridge'. And see if Lord's Conceptual Manipulation can bypass Transcen's or not.
 
ZacharyGrossman273 said:
Also, I like Xeelee Sequence, but let's not NLF type 5 acausality please
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No one said Lord English can't bypass Type 5 lol .

Both are equally matched with Lord English being faster thx to Omnipresence.
 
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