BlazBlue revision: CF Edition

I'm supposed to make blog about it but I'm pretty lazy busy person. So I made a thread instead. It's also unnecessary when I thought about it. I'm hugely focused on abilities rather than scaling because scaling is almost finished.

Kagura ordered Hibiki to use more eyes to observe what's happening. But don't get close or they will be sucked, referring to the people who were turned into magic element and absorbed by Embryo. Transmutation and Absorption to Izanami via Embryo.

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The wounds barely heals by Celica's healing magic. The wounds are dealt by Black Beast/Ragna. Healing Negation to Black Beast/Ragna.

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Jin questioned what happened when Ragna went nuts, Noel replied with that she felt Black Beast's power to Ragna because of course he's turning into it, Jin attacked first, Jin was surprised. Noel said what is wrong with him and tell him what is the reason why he sent her in, and Jin answered with "I don't remember anything." Jin said that his memories are erased. Noel said that it's impossible, since Jin possess power of order and even observer can't do shit. Jin stated that there might be something inside Black Beast that surpass Power of Order. Jin asked what Noel observed when Ragna went berserk, and Noel replied with she is distracted by Izanami, then Jin and her was swallowed by shadow that looks like Black Beast. Noel's memory is also clunky but it looked like gate. And then we see what it is. Noel's memory was cut after that. Darkness Manipulation and Memory Manipulation for Black Beast/Ragna.

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Jin already knew that Trinity was there. Maybe sensed her I guess. Enhanced Senses for Jin.

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Rachel said that she can't feel godkiller power of Noel anymore, like it was cut from her. The reason must be the same reason as to why she lost her memories. Noel felt her power loss as something "natural" and she didn't bother. It was started at the same time when Ragna went berserk and swallowed her. Power Nullification and...... Empathic Manipulation? I think that's the best way to describe it. It is for Black Beast/Ragna.

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Then talk a bit, then they both transported to where Amaterasu is. It was Izanami. BFR for Izanami. Also yeah, she is death. Why she doesn't have Death Manipulation?

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Rachel asked what's her plan with Embryo, and Izanami said that she's obviously using it for Apocalypse. Izanami said that she's going to erase everything in the world, nothing left using Embryo. Existence Erasure to Izanami via Embryo.

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With Power of Order, Trinity can go back to their Nox Nyctores and talk to Platinum. The ability which Platinum already have. Statistics Amplification for Jin.

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Kokonoe just hacked every communication of the city so they can't contact anyone. Good job, Kokonoe. Hacking to Kokonoe.

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Noel commented that her attacks "doesn't have punch" on Arakune. But he gets damaged by Ragna. Elemental Intangibility for Arakune and Elemental Intangibility Negation for Ragna. The people who hurt Arakune also get Intangibility Negation as well.

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Litchi stepped in and explained her motivation for her actions which is Ragna's Azure Grimoire. She realized it when his body regenerated the hole so bad that it severely damaged his internal organs. Litchi sensed Blue. No one ever had blue like that. Enhanced Senses for Litchi and Low-Mid Regenerationn for Ragna. Since it comes from his Azure Grimoire, this also scales to two characters. Namely Hazama and Terumi.

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Then he was contacted by Kokonoe, and asked him a few questions. One of the questions is how did he heal the hole in his body caused by Nirvana. Ragna said that it regenerated on its own and Kokonoe was shocked and said that it was absurd. There's two feats we can get from this. One, it comes from Nox Nyctores and damage caused by Nox Nyctores is in fact at least hard if not impossible to heal. Two, Ragna regenerated from it even after wounded by it. Regenerationn Negation to any Nox Nyctores users and Resistance to Regenerationn Negation for Ragna. This also scales to Hazama and Terumi.

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Ragna fight Hakumen on the lowest floor. Hakumen seemingly speak to Ragna's mind. While they're fighting Hakumen mentioned Izanami and how she's waiting for him. He seems to remember everything. Telepathy and Resistance to Memory Manipulation for Hakumen.

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Nine twisted space, then looks the space broke into pieces. Spatial Manipulation to Nine.

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Nine used Phenomena intervention to transport Ragna to Ikaruga. Phenomena intervention for Nine.

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Everyone got transported to Ikaruga and Carl commented that it looked like the world had been twisted. Nine said to everyone while in Prugatorium that they need to kill Izanami to make their wish come true. Telepathy for Nine.


Jin said that this Phenomena intervention is against an event because nothing about their memories or information are affected. This..... should add abilities to Phenomena intervention. The reason why they lost their memories are because of Phenomena intervention in the first place. This should add Information Manipulation and Memory Manipulation to all Phenomena intervention users. And resistance to all who are immune to it alongside other abilities granted by Phenomena intervention. Namely Reality Warping, Probability Manipulation and Existence Erasure.

We then see Terumi and Hazama talking and now we know that Terumi looked like a ghost of some sort. They talk like they remember everything. Resistance to Memory Manipulation for Hazama and Terumi and Non-Corporeal for Terumi. Supported by the fact that making Terumi material is Rachel's goal in Chronophantasma.

Ragna went to Akitsu and went to Kiln. He can't feel the magic element there. It must be work of Nine as Ragna himself stated. Presence Concealment to Nine.

Ragna met Relius and Relius was surprised that Ragna has his memories and ego even though he is not one of the chosen. Ragna also questioned Relius because he also has clear ego and memories. Resistance to Memory Manipulation for Relius and Ragna.

Valkynheyn was able to recognize Naoto and vice versa even by the fact that Naoto comes from another world. This may be Dimensional Travel to Valkynheyn since he needs to travel to Naoto's world, Bloodedge Experience to know about him.

Celica remembers everything as shown in her conversation with Carl. She has Power of Order so it's quite possible. Resistance to Memory Manipulation to Celica.

Kokonoe was able to sense blue from Noel. This should be Enhanced Senses for her.

Embryo is in fact a prison that can seal Master Unit. Also everyone outside the world has been absorbed by Embryo. This should be Sealing for Izanami.

Azrael can punch through Kokonoe's dimensional BFR. He just broke through space. It's Resistance to BFR to Azrael.

Ragna saw how Mu was able to turn all into nothingness. Izanami said it too. Existence Erasure.

Mu absorbed Izanami alongside her soul while assisted by Ragna. Absorption. Soul included. And this should give Mu Izanami's powers as well. Izanami said that she will become a true drive once she absorbed Mu, this should be the same to Mu absorbing Izanami as well. Absorption also scales to Nu, Lambda and Izanami.

Resistance to Pain Manipulation to Rachel and Pain Manipulation for Hazama. Hazama created pain that kills a person ten times yet Rachel survived.

Nu tried to take Izayoi's powers. Power Absorption. This scales to Izanami, Lambda and Mu.

Terumi called Nu using what seems to be Telepathy.

Rachel was able to resurrect after being killed by Hazama over and over again. Resurrection.

Ragna was able to erase Terumi when they're in the Blue. He said it for himself. Existence Erasure.

There's misconception that Ragna needs to erase himself to use his Low 2-C Hax. That isn't true. He did that to stop her sister from destroying the world, not to recreate it himself. Heck, he's not the one who erased him, it was Amaterasu. It was to put her to rest, not to recreate the world.

I know many of these don't have scans but currently my Imgur won't working. I'll create the gallery once it works. Goddamit, Imgur.

Seems good

Should Izanami get Type 8 at all?

Probably. It's her drive after all.

Lemme reword that.

If she gets Type 8, would it be applicable in combat as well? And since she needs a host I kinda considered giving her possession but I'm uncertain

Yeah, it's also Possession. Terumi should also get that because of Hazama and Kazuma thing. Yes, it's combat applicable. I think.

Rachel was abel to resurrect herself? Was this in Central Fiction? I don't remember this part. I got the impression that Hazama was beating her up senseless to get Ragna's attention.

Also, this is something I noticed with the changes, why is Jin Low 5-B while Mu-12 is 6-B despite her being in much better condition after fighting Black Beast Ragna in Chronophantasma's ending?

Other then that, this looks good.

@Zelda

That's bugged me in past day,should Mu get "6-B,Low 5-B" since aside what you say above,she can kill Izanami too.

She should get a new key. Izanami Absorbed key where she has power of Izanami. She's straight up Low 5-B in this key.

Veloxt1r0kore said:

@Zelda

That's bugged me in past day,should Mu get "6-B,Low 5-B" since aside what you say above,she can kill Izanami too.

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She didn't kill her technically. She absorbed her.

I see,thanks for clarifying that. Kono kuso tvtropes!!

Also Hazama still didn't get Pre-CP key and Post-CP key as i see.

He kinda doesn't need it? I mean in CT and CS Terumi did all the work.

Zelda can explain why he need that two key.

Hazama and Terumi are seperate and Hazama himself is no slouch whatsover in combat. He stomps most if not all the mid tiers.

Idea Engine Ragna = 6-B. Hazama got thrashed by Idea Engine Ragna. In Central Fiction, he can take on Ragna Post Chronophantasma and can take on Naoto who can take on Black Beast Ragna, who is Low 5-B. Sure he technically lost but he still put up a decent fight.

Pre-Chronophantasma = 6-B. Post Chronophantasma = Low 5-B.

That was fully Terumi. He's in full control. It was not Hazama, hell, he didn't even know what's happened until they separated as seen in Central Fiction when he asked Terumi where he gets the scar.

Also 6-B Hakumen should be Low 5-B. Both of the justification is Low 5-B, not 6-B.

Agreed

But Hazama does fight people without going into Terumi mode as shown in his Arcade runs and none of them can deal as much a scratch to him. And if it was Terumi, then Terumi has to get a 6-B key "In Hazama's body" because Terumi is full Low 5-B in all his keys when he got demolished by a 6-B character.

Then it's Terumi, not Hazama. Hazama himself didn't do anything until later part of Chronophantasma or even you can argue that he only did something in Central Fiction.

Also Azure Grimoire Ragna is 6-B? Azure Grimoire is technically using Black Beast's power so it falls under Low 5-B key of him.

Hazama has his own consciousness even when Terumi is inside him. When Terumi takes control, Hazama's hair takes Terumi's form or when his eyes are open (though Hazama has opened them to scare people with having Terumi take over). Though when his plans go awry in a bad way, Terumi does take over, like when Makoto mentioned Noel in a timeline that doesn't exist, screwing up his plan royally.

Hazama also has his own fighting style, elegant and almost dance like while Terumi's is far more aggresive and barbaric. Hazama also uses Ouroboros a whole lot more then Terumi does to avoid getting his hands dirty while Terumi doesn't care about covering his hands in red.

When he fights Ragna, Rachel, Valkenhayn, Hakumen and the like, it mostly is Terumi. However when he fights Jin, it's Hazama fighting. Terumi only showed up after Jin gets away due to his plan being foiled by Makoto.

Reinhardthrowhisspear said:

Also 6-B Hakumen should be Low 5-B. Both of the justification is Low 5-B, not 6-B.

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Should 20% Hakumen 6-B?

Jin was using Power of Order back then. Kokonoe even shouted that it was Terumi.

Should 20% Hakumen 6-B?

By those justifications, he might as well be Low 5-B.

Reinhardthrowhisspear said:

Jin was using Power of Order back then. Kokonoe even shouted that it was Terumi.

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Kokonoe has always called Hazama Terumi because she knows that it's Terumi. The only time she's ever referred to Hazama as Hazama was in Central Fiction because they split.

If Hazama was never his own thing until Central Fiction, then the game would never refer to Hazama as Hazama in the fights outside the story, he'd always be Terumi. Hazama fought Platinum with Trinity active and managed to give her quite the trouble and here he was split from Terumi.

He sounded like Terumi he acted like Terumi. Jin was using Power of Order, it's not 6-B, that's Low 5-B.

If he was Low 5-B at that point, then Idea Engine Ragna is also Low 5-B which creates a conflict. It makes no sense that Power of Order Jin is stronger then Idea Engine Ragna when Jin struggled against Hazama/Terumi while Ragna utterly trashes him.

It looks like there is Barrier Generation for at least Noel, Tsubaki, and Makoto. In Remix Heart specifically chapter 5 pages 10-11, Noel was able to make a barrier to shield Makoto form an incoming attack with Tsubaki, and Makoto being shown to make the same barrier.

Ragna needs type 8 immortality as he has a life link with nu and Noel has a life link with hazama he already has it on his page

Bumping this!

Bump!

BUMP!!

Okay, there's few profiles we aren't touching yet.

Azrael 6-B (Able to keep up with Ragna) | Likely Low 5-B (One of the strongest characters in the series and likely scales to Izanami)

Takemigatsuchi - 6-B | Low 5-B (As strong as Black Beast)

Mai - At least 6-B, likely Low 5-B (Able to trade a blow with CF Hazama and comparable to Kagura, who can keep up with 1/8 unrestricted Azrael)

Makoto - 7-C (Comparable to the likes of Iron Tager)

Naoto Likely Low 5-B (Able to block and fight against Rachel) | Low 5-B (Able to fight against Black Beast Ragna and Es)

We'll also create 6-B key for Terumi, Low 5-B key for Noel and another Low 5-B key for Ragna (Central Fiction self who can keep up with Izanami). Are these good?

So Hazama still stay in Low 5-B and didn't get multiple key? dammit then.

Things looks okay for now. Of course I'd rather we wait for Ever's return. But, if there are any issues, they can be revised later. So this is fine.

Me too,all of this seems fine expect Hazama tiering problem. ovo

Noel and Ragna's profiles are locked. Can you open it?

Doneso.

I think we're done. This can be closed.

Terumi should also scale to Hakumen in speed with Relativistic to FTL reactions.

Power of order Jin and hazama also need the relativistic to ftl reactions are we going to add the rest of the abilities