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Chaos Revisions and some others

Iamunanimousinthat

Iamunanimousinthat

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Hello Everyone,

It's a revision time for old Chaos. For this revision I will be focusing on these main points:

1. Nonexistant physiology

2. Conceptional Existence and Manipulation

3. Reliant Immortality

4. High Godly Regen


1. Nonexistant physiology

In the Sailor Moon Universe, all things in existence, Planets, stars, heavenly bodies, and organisms are born from the Galaxy Cauldron.

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Chaos tells us that he failed to becoem a star (translation uses heavenly body). Chaos was never born from the Cauldron therefore he isn't something that exists.

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(NOTE: Sailor Chaos was born from the cauldron so therefore she doesn't have non-existent physiology)

2. Conceptial Existence and Manipulation

Chaos tells us he is the source of all evil stars. All eveil things are manifestations of Chaos. If Chaos didn't exist, then evil cannot as well.

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Where as Chaos is the concept of Evil and darkness, Sailor Cosmos and Guardian Cosmos is the concept of Good and Light.

3. Reliant Immortality

Chaos states that Light and Evil will always exist in tandem with each other. They call each other and summon each other. This calls to reliant Immortality to Chaos, so as long as Light and Good exist Chaos will exist and keep coming back. The reverse shoudl apply to cosmos.

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It should also note, that in series, to permanetly destroy Chaos, Sailor Moon woud have to desroy the cauldron which would also destroy all the good stars in it, and end the universe as no more life or heavenly bodies would be born

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Scan 2

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This leads to my next point

4. Destroying the cauldron and ending everything, both darkness and light doesn't permanetly stop things. A new cualdron will be born somewhere in existence

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Even with the end of the universe, the cauldron will still regenerate and create a new future. And Evil and Good will once again come back. I believe this is ground for High Godly Regen along with this other piece from the story:

Sailor Cosmos after being reaffirmed by Sailor Moon says she will go the future and use the Lambda power to reset the Cosmos.

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(Note: this isn't remaking the cosmos. The cosmos was already decimated and permanetly destryoed by Sailor Chaos. SailorCosmos was going to use the Lambda pwoer to end the cosmos as it is and create a new cosmos where new life will begin. )

In this new world, Chaos will come back and the battle between good and evil will continue until it's time to create a new cosmos and so on and so on forever.

This is the main thesis fo the Sailor Moon series, that family, love, friends, are all worth the eternal battle of good and evil.

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scan 2

So to recap:

Chaos will still return along with the cauldron after destroying the cauldron and killing the universe.

Chaos will stil return after destryoing the cosmos and creating a new cosmos.


If anyone has any questions, objections, or concerns or want to add support to this. Please feel free to say something.
 
Hmmm.....

  • Nonexistant physiology
I clearly agree with this, Chaos has failed to become a star it may seem strange, but the term star designates everything that has a star seed so everything that exists, without a stars seed, existence is erased it did not succeed to exist, moreover, it is the Chaos itself, the antithesis of the Cosmos so it was designated as being the Void before existence, even Sailor Galaxia as no Chance against him , she can take the stars seed of anyone but not chaos because he does not have star seed

  • Conceptional Existence and Manipulation
Regarding this, I do not know where you are coming from, I would like you to argue and clarify your thought

  • Reliant Immortality
I agree with this but unfortunately it will not be applicable to combat, it will always be reborn if light, Good/ Evil, darkness exists

  • High Godly Regen
That's not good enough for High Godly Regen, if someone like Kriemhild Gretche did not have High godly when it was erased through the Multiverse, I do not think Chaos has this regen, this is just Mid Godly Regen
 
also, a new key would be cool for Chaos, it merged with Cauldron and became 4D so there is Base Chaos, Chaos Fused with the Cauldron and Sailor Chaos
 
I do not know Sailor Moon at that point and i'm busy with other revisions, so i'm unable to help here.
 
@Dodo

On conceptual existence:

My arguement that Chaos is the very concept of evilness in the series. All evil stars, (which all thing are organisms to heavenly bodies) are manifestations of himself. If Chaos didn't exist, evil couldn't exist. It's like Dialga and time. Time cannot exist without Dialga. Evil cannot exist without Chaos. He is evil itself on the conceptual level.

On High Godly,

WHat sepeates what I meantioned from mid-godly is that they both pertain to CHaos combing back after the universe dies. The first instant, is after the cauldron is destroyed and universe dies, the cauldron will comeback and so will Chaos.

In the second instance, Cosmos says she will use the Lambda power to start over again and keep the eternal battle going. That means she'll use the Lambda power to restart the Cosmos, ending what was before and starting again. IN the new Cosmos, Chaos will come back and the abattle will continue.

I bring up High-godly because Chaos will still comes back even after the universe is both destroyed in both instances.
 
I understand About Conceptual existence, the evil exists because chaos is the source, I agree then

I'm still not convinced about High Godly, the definition is not very clear but I think for sailor chaos, it's just Mid Godly or massive resistance to lambda power.

In both cases it's Mid Godly
 
I haven't read that far yet.

Anyway:

1) I don't think that not being born from the cauldron -> Nonexistent

2) I'm uncertain about Abstract Existence

3) She relies on the cauldron, judging from the scans

4) I don't know enough about High-Godly to say for sure
 
@Kalt Good news! you are back
I will try to enlighten the things here

1) About Nonexistent, Chaos isn't Born in the Cauldron and he failed to have a stars seed, the Star seed is present in All things alive even Planets, matter ect... The Sailor Moon Cosmology is.....strange

Without a Stars seed, the existence of the person is erased so if Chaos is not born of the cauldron, he has no star seed, he says he failed to become a star (stars seed) and therefore does not exist. it's a bit like he said he never existed like The Chaos in greek Mythology

he can exist inside the cauldro , the place where all Things are Erased as by chance

In addition there is also the parallel between Cosmos and Chaos, existence and Non Existence
 
The second scan doesn't show EE.

If you find a scan for no Star Seed = deleted, nonexistent Chaos is ok

The third one is only resistance
 
Hmm the OP seem absent so i handle this.

  • Concerning Abstract Existance
If i understand correctly, Chaos is the Concept of Darkness/Evil because all evil things is a part of him and if he didn't exist, Darkness/evil no longer existed but i doubt because the very concept of evil can be an possibility, an idea or an abstract things, chaos doesn't incarnate the Concept of evil things, is just the source of All evil things (he can maybe is the concept of darkness)

But He can merge with the concept of Light, in the fight against ESM he said that:

Darkness Sumon light and light sumon darkness, where there is light,there is also darkness,And now, the time has come once more for light and darkness to claps hand !
~ Chaos tell the true about the World​
For the other things, later
 
@Karuchi you talked about the quote? I have many difficult to understand the things about conceptual things so I try to explain correctly

  • For the First scan nothing notable, just the fact that he is the source of all evil
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  • The second scan is pretty interesting, he said the light and darkness things and said that is the fate of them to merge just like when he was all as one (here he maybe talk about when light, Darkness, everything's was one but I don't really understand this)
[2]

  • The third scan is just the fact he is the darkness things and the cauldron and other a light and he want to merge with light for become the"One" (it's my interpretation)
[3]

Note: I thinks if he merged with light, he become one like at the beginning but what things it at the beginning ? It's pretty strange, also I really things he talked about light and darkness in conceptual way but I need you karuchi
 
I think that it's some type 8 thing going on. Light calls darkness and all this stuff
 
Actually i'm not sure if it's type 8, re-reading it, it seems that it's more a "meeting me was your fate" sort of thing.

She doesn't talk about fusion?
 
Hmmm, I am not sure because Cosmos said if Light exist, Darkness exist, and chaos said the same things, basically he can exist if light exist it's a things like that this is a things like a reliant immortality, OP talk about this

Yep the fusion about light and darkness make him the "One" like at the beginning but I don't know what is it
 
I'm on phone and I can't give scan and arg properly so it's better to drop things about chaos concept ect and add the accepted things (Non existence physiologie)
 
Type 8 reliant on the cauldron was accepted as well.

Nonexistence is the physical type.

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