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Galactus (extremely well fed) vs The Truth (FMA)

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erm..i don't think "the truth" is a specific entity mind you


"thr truth" is the universe itself, and everything whithin. it was also edward...it'd also be galactus.
 
the truth is a concept though...it has no actual form or identity of its own..it just manifests as a copy of the person who sees it...

i don't really see how one would be able to "fight" it; it's not something you can fight. it's..the truth. how would Galactus erase the concept of truth from existing?
 
Hiei312 said:
the truth is a concept though...it has no actual form or identity of its own..it just manifests as a copy of the person who sees it...
i don't really see how one would be able to "fight" it; it's not something you can fight. it's..the truth. how would Galactus erase the concept of truth from existing?
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By eating it
 
it's not an actual entity galactus can it.


if Galactus even met "the truth" to begin with all he'd see is a reflection of himself. but that's not "the truth" either. it's just galactus's truth.


t's hard to properly explain because FMA has really deep phylosophical themes beyond the shonen surface...the easiest way for me to explain it is..the truth is just the truth. if galactus "beats" the truth, there's truth in that act. therefore it's still..the truth..get it? -___-
 
Hiei312 said:
it's not an actual entity galactus can it.

if Galactus even met "the truth" to begin with all he'd see is a reflection of himself. but that's not "the truth" either. it's just galactus's truth.


t's hard to properly explain because FMA has really deep phylosophical themes beyond the shonen surface...the easiest way for me to explain it is..the truth is just the truth. if galactus "beats" the truth, there's truth in that act. therefore it's still..the truth..get it? -___-
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Madorka is a conceptual entity and would still get whooped by Galactus
 
you're not really getting it..the truth is not even an entity to begin with


Madoka (if that's who you mean) is still an actual character. so you could beat her.


you can't beat "the truth". the victory in and of itself would be a truth.
 
Hiei312 said:
you're not really getting it..the truth is not even an entity to begin with

Madoka (if that's who you mean) is still an actual character. so you could beat her.


you can't beat "the truth". the victory in and of itself would be a truth.
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Madoka is the concept of hope and yet can still be beate
 
well, the concept of "Hope" is far easier to grasp then Truth

"hope" can be theoretically erased.


"truth" can't as it'd create a paradox.
 
Sure it would create a paradox,but Galactus is superior in every way and would easily destroy the concept of truth in the FMA verse
 
you can't destroy the concept of truth. if you do your victory would no longer be true and thus you'd never have destroyed it. >_>


but my main point is, i don't think "the truth" is a real character, but it'd take too long to explain my reasoning as to why. this topic is basically galactus vs nothing.
 
destroying the universe wouldn't do anything


i don't think any of you understand what the truth really is.


i'm gonna try to explain somewhat briefly


the truth always manifests itself in the shape of the person seeing it. it's something deep within their own consciousness, ."it" only exists metaphisycally within that moment where you're meeting it. it's a totally different thing whenever someone different sees it. because each person has his own individual beliefs of what truth is.

if Galactus even meets "the truth", all that means is he's facing his own interpretation of what it means,

"In a late interview, Author Arakawa said that the Truth is a somewhat hollow version of oneself (as an "internal god" or "conscience")"


here's a quote from a similar topic elsewhere where ppl were wondering if someone could "beat" the truth

The Truth isn't a separate being itself, its a part of you and a part of the universe as a whole. It can't really fight or be fought, because it only exists in the same way gravity or electro-magnetism does, and as part of you, the person confronting it.

that's why i said Truth shouldn't be counted as an actual character...to go deeper i'd have to start explaining theology and philosophy related subjects that would certainly bore everyone to death..so hopefully this is enough...

i'm not saying galactus would "lose" mind you..i'm just saying there isn't a feasible way for someone to fight "the truth", due to what it is.
 
there's no actual way for this fight to happen.


please understand that


Th truth is not an actual character.
 
Hiei312 said:
there's no actual way for this fight to happen.

please understand that


Th truth is not an actual character.
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The Truth in the real world is not a real character, but in fiction where he's specfically a character in a franchise (FMA), he IS a character. Other things like Eternity, Infinity, Death, Oblivion, and so on aren't real but are Cosmic Abstracts in Marvel. If the FMA Truth is destroyed, only the FMA Universe is affected because everything that is true and false in Marvel is handled by the One-Above-All, not Truth.
 
FictionalBlade101 said:
Why is Galactus added onto Truth's losses when this wasnt even decided or closed yet?
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Dunno why it was added as a loss, what I would say is that this is impossible to determine. The 3-A tier on truth is set there just because it's the only concrete knowledge we have even though he is exists in counter-universes.Anyway it's also stated that he is Unknown for a good reason. Beating him is impossible because it would create a paradox no matter what you do, and even if he kills truth the battle would go like this:

Galactus wins so....Truth

Galactus wins so....Truth

Galactus wins so....Truth

Galactus wins so....Truth

Galactus wins so....Truth

Galactus wins so....Truth

Into eternity...

It's like the omnipotent paradox, it will go nowhere at all and you will only get a headache in the end.

And those that say that he can destroy the universe, then... Truth
 
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