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Teridax vs Ren Fuji

Standard Battle assumptions are having both characters on their maximum power. This is 1-A vs Low 2-C.
 
Clearly it's intended to be 7-A for 7-A but yeah it should be specified.

Lemme look at Ren's stuff again
 
oh right EFF then...EFF is an instant bloodlust for Ren and it activates immediately iirc (EFF is wordless afaik). Or...we are using EFO's key high end?
 
First off, Teridax can't kill Ren and if Ren lands a good hit Teridax is done for (since he hits both physically and spiritually, right?).

That being said, Teridax is much stronger; he's 400-500 megatons.

Teridax's only real chance is to read Ren's mind, figure out his capabilities and what he'll do, and then proceed from there. For the record, this is how he generally starts fights. All he can really do then is trap him in an illusion, stasis field him or break his mind, which yes, he'll absolutely do off the bat once he realizes how much of a threat Ren is.

I guess it's dependent on whether or not Ren stops time before Teridax realizes he's really dangerous. Whoever time stops first wins I guess.
 
ren doesn't time stop however in EFF he slows his opponents time aka they take more time to do actions he is eventual time stop as if the fight is prolonged time will stop for teridax. Also AFAIK teridax is arrogant but if he starts mind reading then he will have the advantage in knowing though things will slow down for teridax due to how ren's EFF works
 
Teridax's arrogance is really an informed trait since in the fights that he doesn't throw against people who actually threaten him, he gets serious off the bat and annihilates them. The only time he ***** around is when he has every possible advantage.

Anyways he could probably get Ren to kill himself with mind control if he manages to get that off before Ren kills him.
 
After thinking about this I'd say Ren would have the upper hand while Teridax can mind read EFF is done right off the bat wordless so Ren would have speed and slow down Teridax's action so Ren would have enough chances to cut of his head before teridax time stop or mind control due to how he has to process things and being closer to Ren = time slows down even more for teridax so yeah. Ren likely wins in my head
 
also just forgot ren does resist mind manipulation as his mind didn't get torn by reinhard's spear (which looking already made LDO cannot keep consious when the same members even spinne fought properly against meth's hax). If you wonder why he doesn't have it well...we missed that part completely so our bad lel
 
Welp... Voting for Ren via Time Slow + Accel on steroids (If he accels himself by 1000x, the opponent is slowed by 1000x.)

And Red is right. Ren has a heavy resistance to mind powers
 
If Ren's mind resistance is that good then Teridax isn't doing shit, yeah.
 
@prom would this be a stomp though? Just wondering or fair game right now?
 
Teridax has stuff that could end the fight (he has his own slow/stop and outright time stop) but I doubt he'd pull it out before Ren kills him.
 
so its 2 ren (or 3 if i count you prom)? Cause if retract the incon votes are gone
 
tbf prom mentioned he is arrogant if he has an advantage however the thing he leads is mind hax which ren can take
 
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