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Since apparently, Namek Saga Goku is high af on the 5-B scale, I'm putting him against a 5-A. Speed equalized.

Marle
Goku kaioken x1 render by luishatakeuchiha-d69jomw
 
Goku with any level of kaioken (times 10 being the limit) > Goku after his gravity training >> Reccome (debatable) >= Goku with Kaioken times 4 > Goku = Nappa (who could stomp the z warriors) >> One z warrior (could stomp Raditz) >> Full power Raditz >> A sample of Raditz power > Piccolo who is a bit above baseline
 
Actuslly, there's another 5-A feat that puts them at 325 Yottatons. Here it is. Yes it comes from Chrono Cross, but it's a spell used by fodder characters and would scale to Magus's generals, who are all clearly inferior to Magus, and the rest of the party.

I still think this might be a stomp.
 
Namek Saga Goku should be High 5-A, because with Kaioken he is stronger than First Form Frieza.
 
First Form Frieza seems way more than 10x stronger than Ginyu and Pre-Zenkai Son Goku though, despite the 120,000 and 90,000 PL's respectively. First form Frieza is 530,000, yes, but Son Goku's 10x Kaioken being 900,000 is a fan calc. 180,000 is still the highest canon PL for Goku prior to battle with Frieza.
 
So, with Marle being 6.33 YT and Goku being high into 5-B until some CRTs are made for both...could people vote?
 
Of course he is way stronger since power levels are not linear, and how is that a fan calc since we are using kaioken?.
 
Kaioken is linear, PL's is Not linear, plain and simple.

Anyway, I personally feel this is a stomp is the only reason I haven't voted. Marle wins via hax and significant AP advantage.
 
PLs are not linear but we can use it to know who is stronger.
 
Saying that Kaioken x 10 sends his PL from 90000 to 900000 is literally saying that PLs are linear.

@Cal

Marle for superior AP, status effects and time manip (acceleration, right?) I suppose
 
Kaioken certainly multiplies PLs in a linear way, but with that Goku should be stronger than first form Frieza.
 
Yeah, I still think this is a stomp thread. Not just because if the tier, but Marle's also got haste to double her speed, some of her crossbows inflict stop or confuse, and she can heal herself. Even if the 325 Yottaton feat doesn't get accepted, Marle is still at a much higher tier and is too haxed.
 
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