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Medaka Kurokami VS Giorno Giovanna

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I'll go with Giorno Giovanni since all fiction should erase him however he was moving while time was erased so I'm assuming that shouldn't work.Not to mention GER should be invisible as well.
 
He should be waaay faster than her.As with all fiction she can erase her time but only be able to used it once it's like teleportation essentially .
 
CHILLVIBEZZ said:
He should be waaay faster than her.As with all fiction she can erase her time but only be able to used it once it's like teleportation essentially .
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isnt it like timestop?

kumogawa used it and in the next moment people got killed by his weapons, while he appeared on the other side, it doesnt seemed like simple teleportation (even if the explanation doesnt make much sense :I ) ^_^
 
@GreatestSin

Nope it's not time stop with all fiction one erases the time used to attack to make the attack near instant once.She cannot keep up or perceive the movements of a character who's faster than her regularly which is hypersonic+

However even if it were time stop why would that matter lol

GER was moving while time itself was erased.
 
GioGio o3o

Medaka Box Skills have a problem : It's need ATIVATION

while GioGio can kill them before they can activate anything
 
Gio super broken abilities and can delete the effect but keep the cause (it's confusing and that's what i looked up) though that sends his opponent in a death loop for eternity
 
sends his opponent in a death loop for eternity wont be a problem for Medaka's All Fiction but the main factor that prevent Medaka from wining is that GioGio can nulify every action of his opponent, even if Medaka ativate some skills, GioGio just only need to nulify all of their effect. Then again, i'm not really sure that how would he kill Medaka. Heh, what do think ? Reg ?
 
MagiSinbad said:
sends his opponent in a death loop for eternity wont be a problem for Medaka's All Fiction but the main factor that prevent Medaka from wining is that GioGio can nulify every action of his opponent, even if Medaka ativate some skills, GioGio just only need to nulify all of their effect. Then again, i'm not really sure that how would he kill Medaka. Heh, what do think ? Reg ?
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He still has universal striking strength and medaka is glass cannon only moon level durability sooo I hit it's over
 
How it's gonna be a problem to Medaka o_O

All Fiction can undo anything including DEATH ! Misogi has used this ability to bring him back to life ALOT That's the problem, you can kill Medaka, but she cant stay dead

Not to mention about the Encounter, which will push away any damage that inflict on her including death, GioGio just gonna deal the damage on himself with his universal striking fist

EDIT : That said, Medaka has more defensive ability than GioGio, GioGio has no way to kill Medaka
 
Oh ok i don't really know dude i see gio winning more but still thxs to all fiction and hax i think someone more knowledgeable should do a debate for gio cause you know about Medeka and only know Gio has absolute brokeness but not to such an extend :p
 
MagiSinbad said:
How it's gonna be a problem to Medaka o_O

All Fiction can undo anything including DEATH ! Misogi has used this ability to bring him back to life ALOT That's the problem, you can kill Medaka, but she cant stay dead

Not to mention about the Encounter, which will push away any damage that inflict on her including death, GioGio just gonna deal the damage on himself with his universal striking fist

EDIT : That said, Medaka has more defensive ability than GioGio, GioGio has no way to kill Medaka
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Medaka won't be able to activate encounter though, and since GER sets willpower to 0 it might set the willpower that activated All Fiction to revive Medaka to 0 negating her revival (emphasis on the might)
 
Well, with All Fiction she can erase the concept of willpower.

Even kumagawa can erase something like the concept of color or control.
 
Well, in that case yes. But this it's something that happens with a bad set up for a battle like this... kinda complex. You need to make it relatively fair (equal speed, pre-knowledge or whatever)

This is the kind of matchup that would potentially be completely mind-bending and cannot be gauged accurately. I personally don't see how we can evaluate this in an objective manner.

Anyway, It's a tie in my opinion.
 
It has none conditions, because I really want to know who would win in a natural confrontation. And is because is hard to reach a conclusion that I made the thread, if it wasn't I don't really see the point at doing it.
 
It's not just hard, quite frankly reaching a decision to this is impossible, there are two abilities that both instantly counter eachother, unless the two authors came together to say which one is more powerful/"faster", there's no way to know. KamiYasha's right this is invonclusive.
 
For me, that makes this thread interesting. I don't mind who wins or if it is inconclusive, this has been very fun to read (especially with all having a nice attitude while debating this)
 
Well Gio has better stregth and crazy hax but so does Medaka so is this inconclusive?
 
Gio should win due being way faster, GER will hit first before Medaka could activate All-Fiction or even know what is happening... and she will be stuck on a loop of being killed again, and again without knowing what happened.
 
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Gio should win due being way faster, GER will hit first before Medaka could activate All-Fiction or even know what is happening... and she will be stuck on a loop of being killed again, and again without knowing what happened.
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Especially since all of GER stats are supposed to be infinite(the NONE in it's stats are Araki's way of saying that it's supposed to be beyond normal stand stats....forget about that last part).

Any ways even without GER's Nullfiying power, it has infinite reactions, speed, durability, and power, so i'm going to GioGio here.
 
All Fiction would negate Medaka's death. GER leaves cause but negate's effect to cause infinite death loop, but All Fiction negate's death by erasing cause, so he has no way to put Medaka down for good, unless he can somehow negate willpower of those who are already dead, which GER has never been shown to be capable of.
 
Blahblah9755 said:
All Fiction would negate Medaka's death. GER leaves cause but negate's effect to cause infinite death loop, but All Fiction negate's death by erasing cause, so he has no way to put Medaka down for good, unless he can somehow negate willpower of those who are already dead, which GER has never been shown to be capable of.
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Hmm. While my personal vote goes to GioGio here, would this fight count as inconclusive due to either not being able to put down one another then(i.e Medaka's All Ficiton being unable(?) to erase Giorno and GER being unable to put Medaka in an infinite death loop)?
 
Blahblah9755 said:
Yeah, I believe it should be inconclusive.
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That could be it. Plus, does any of us here even have half an idea as to what limit GER's ability and All Fiction have or no? Anyways, this fight's practically inconclusive then.
 
CrossverseCrisis said:
Blahblah9755 said:
Yeah, I believe it should be inconclusive.
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That could be it. Plus, does any of us here even have half an idea as to what limit GER's ability and All Fiction have or no? Anyways, this fight's practically inconclusive then.
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I agree... but Giorno has a bigger chance due GER being WAY faster
 
Oh man, I've thought of that match before. And it is a really mind-bending fight. But to me, Gio wins. Either he wins or it is inconclusive.

But can't Gio negate Medaka's powers, just to know?
 
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MagiSinbad said:
How it's gonna be a problem to Medaka o_O

All Fiction can undo anything including DEATH ! Misogi has used this ability to bring him back to life ALOT That's the problem, you can kill Medaka, but she cant stay dead

Not to mention about the Encounter, which will push away any damage that inflict on her including death, GioGio just gonna deal the damage on himself with his universal striking fist

EDIT : That said, Medaka has more defensive ability than GioGio, GioGio has no way to kill Medaka
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Medaka won't be able to activate encounter though, and since GER sets willpower to 0 it might set the willpower that activated All Fiction to revive Medaka to 0 negating her revival (emphasis on the might)
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Ummm.... i obviously would go with an inconclusive match just like everyone else but i has to point this out. Unlike many other Skills in Medaka Box verse, it doesnt require the ativation, it's a passive skill that will push away all the damage away, no matter it's the physical mental or even the death itself it will get push away by the Encounter. Did i just mentioned the MENTAL part ? yea, that gonna be a BIG problem for GioGio. If he turn her willpower to 0, the effect would just gonna push back to his will power
 
Medaka won't be able to activate encounter though, and since GER sets willpower to 0 it might set the willpower that activated All Fiction to revive Medaka to 0 negating her revival (emphasis on the might)

Ummm.... i obviously would go with an inconclusive match just like everyone else but i has to point this out. Unlike many other Skills in Medaka Box verse, it doesnt require the ativation, it's a passive skill that will push away all the damage away, no matter it's the physical mental or even the death itself it will get push away by the Encounter. Did i just mentioned the MENTAL part ? yea, that gonna be a BIG problem for GioGio. If he turn her willpower to 0, the effect would just gonna push back to his will power

Although you're right about encounter being automatic, you have to remember, Medaka can turn on and off any skills she likes, and she usually keeps her minuses off until battle, so she would have to turn encounter on, and the willpower if that would be set to 0, that's what I meant before.
 
ah ! i completely forgot about that @__@ thank for remind me about that :3 . Anyway, since this thread is already gone to inconclusive so i dont think i have anything to say :v
 
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