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Noctis Lucis Caelum (Final Fantasy XV) vs Dante (Devil May Cry)

Great match-up. I can see this going on and on for days if necessary but Dante would be the ultimate winner in my opinion. He has better hax and I think he would out worn Noctis out at the end.
 
Damn I forgot to bump my old match lol.

Anyway, the Big issue here is that Dante outhaxes and outstrenghts Noctis by a pretty significant margin, pretty much everything Noctis can do is countered by Dante's own abilities.

That said, Noctis will be far more willing to use Time Stop then Dante, so he's likely to do it first and may kill Dante with it, but with a great strength and versatility advantage, Dante takes the win for most scenarios
 
@Sky

Follow my man gargoyles lead and give me some reason.

From my perspective: Noctis can time stop and bfr for a win.

But vote counted.

I might change the version of dante if this becomes too stompish

Dante: 1

Noctis: 0
 
well the thing is that this is DMC 2 Dante so he's FAR more serious and willing to use abilities to dispatch opponents time stop was never used because he didn't need it he just...beat everyone
 
TISSG7Redgrave said:
well the thing is that this is DMC 2 Dante so he's FAR more serious and willing to use abilities to dispatch opponents time stop was never used because he didn't need it he just...beat everyone
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If in character, I recall DMC2 dante somewhat being overconfident.

Only reason why I think this is a good match, since in character.

Noctis would be much less likely to underestimate his opponent.
 
Gargoyle One said:
You're probably thinking of the wrong Dante then.
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either 2 or 4.

I havent played the games in a long time, but I can keep track of arguments and tbh, dante profile is pretty accurate since the...

revisions...
 
Can Dante counter being banished to a void? Or Noctis's OHK? This is more inconclusive to me imo.

Also what are the stats for both combatants.
 
Knightofannihilation666 said:
Can Dante counter being banished to a void? Or Noctis's OHK? This is more inconclusive to me imo.
Also what are the stats for both combatants.
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no and I believe dante is higher in ap.
 
Oh shit.....

So I just looked at the statistics again.

Noctis is scaled from being superior to his Baseline forms.

Dante however, One shotted Argosax, someone superior to multiple other High 6As including Abigail who performed a casual 172 Terraton feat.

Even assuming blocking the Blade wouldn't one shot, Albeit it likely won't, Noctis is gonna take a shit ton of damage by mere parrying.
 
Gargoyle One said:
Oh shit.....
So I just looked at the statistics again.

Noctis is scaled from being superior to his Baseline forms.

Dante however, One shotted Argosax, someone superior to multiple other High 6As including Abigail who performed a casual 172 Terraton feat.

Even assuming blocking the Blade wouldn't one shot, Albeit it likely won't, Noctis is gonna take a shit ton of damage by mere parrying.
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I was wrong, Noctic has higher ap with Ifrit give or take at one exaton

User blog:Matthew Schroeder/Final Fantasy XV Feats (OBD Calculations)
 
KinkiestSins said:
Gargoyle One said:
Oh shit.....
So I just looked at the statistics again.

Noctis is scaled from being superior to his Baseline forms.

Dante however, One shotted Argosax, someone superior to multiple other High 6As including Abigail who performed a casual 172 Terraton feat.

Even assuming blocking the Blade wouldn't one shot, Albeit it likely won't, Noctis is gonna take a shit ton of damage by mere parrying.
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I was wrong, Noctic has higher ap with Ifrit give or take at one exaton
User blog:Matthew Schroeder/Final Fantasy XV Feats (OBD Calculations)
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Also, Leviathan scales to Ifrit since he controls the oceans.

Likely higher then Dante's ap.
 
Leviathans feat is baseline, with Ifrit being slightly better then that unless I'm completely screwing the numbers which I won't be surprised if I do.

DMC2 Dante easily one shotted Argosax in base form, Argosax is>>>>Mundus to the point of one shotting, Mundus is>Abigail, who performed a casual 172 Terraton feat, done by a dude who knew shot about his own power.

So yeah.

Putting them at willing to kill means Dante won't screw around, which makes Dante pummel Noctis into paste eventually
 
The Everlasting said:
Ifrit's feat is 1 exaton.
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Fuuuuuuuuuck wow that was a mess up on my part.

Yeah alright, the two can keep up, though I feel Dante would be more inclined to use his time manipulation once he realized he was overwhelmed
 
Gargoyle One said:
The Everlasting said:
Ifrit's feat is 1 exaton.
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Fuuuuuuuuuck wow that was a mess up on my part.
Yeah alright, the two can keep up, though I feel Dante would be more inclined to use his time manipulation once he realized he was overwhelmed
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Admitedly he has better time hax.

Well, who do you vote for?

Also, counting your vote for inconclusive Knight

Inconclusive: 1
 
Yeah, but thought you might change.

I will just combine your comments in my head for reasoning.

Noctis: 1

Dante: 1
 
I agree with Gargoyle, although he has an inferior AP, Dante has Hax to balance and overcome Noctis, outside the DT forms and Majin Form that give a huge increase in the powers of the Demon Boy

Both have Time Stop, okay...

Dante have Quicksilver too, so, it will overcome Noctis in motion and dodge he´s attacks, taking advantage of the fact that Quicksilver is not considered speed increase, this does not violate the Equal Speed rule. With Yamato, Dante can kill Noctis since his Regenerationn would not save him from space attacks

Voting for Dante
 
Dante brings up a point.

In DMC2 Dante slows down time by merely doing Devil Trigger actions.
 
are you talking about when he uses the chrono heart amulet? if so then that is a point that seems legit so 3 ways to use that time manipulation to his advantage
 
After replaying all 4 DMC games and FFXV recently, I have to go with Dante here. Due to a few factors.

Noctis' Weakness of The Royal Arms draining his life away every time he uses them,, Inconsistensies in Summoning Astrals (I say this because during my near 100 hours of playing FFXV summoning is highly inconsistent. At times it would refuse to give me the chance to summon when I really needed it, other times it can happen when I'm facing a bunch of weak enemies. If I'm wrong on this let me know.), Alterna requires him to be absolutely defensless for a quite a bit of time. Since TISSG7Redgrave pointed out that Dante has 3 methods to use Time Manipulation to his advantage. He could finsh Noctis off before he even has a chance to pull it off. Plus Yamato's ability to cut through space would bypass Noctis' Regenerationn. Forms like Dreadnought and the multiple Devil Trigger forms could probably Tank the Armiger onslaught. If I'm wrong on anything let me know (As I'm fairly new to this) but the way I see it, it would be a sight to behold, but in the end I see The King of Light bowing down to The Devil.
 
Out of curiosity how many votes does it take to close a poll? I ask because it doesn't look like anyone else will comment on here and it's 4-1
 
7 for one side and has to be 3 vote difference and if it isn't unanimous grace period for 1 day then it can be added should the votes not changed that much
 
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