Zeno vs Grand Priest (DBH).

[Omegas03]

DBS Zeno (2-C) vs DBH GP (2-B).

Putting this in Fun and Games because it is most likely a stomp, who wins? Speed equalized


Grand Priest

 

[Omegas03]

Bump

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

GP one-shots.

This dude apparently can survive EE.

 

[Omegas03]

On a 4D scale? Woah

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

I'm not entirely sure, but yeah probably on a 4D

Besides, seeing how Dragon Ball works, I'd be hard pressed to believe Zeno could erase this version of Grand Priest (Given that the best thing canon Zeno has been said to do is erase the main universes).

 

[Dragomer]

I'm not entirely sure, but yeah probably on a 4D
Besides, seeing how Dragon Ball works, I'd be hard pressed to believe Zeno could erase this version of Grand Priest (Given that the best thing canon Zeno has been said to do is erase the main universes).

No, the best Zeno was said to be capable of is erasing everything, how you interpret that is up to debate though.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Yes that is true.

There was a thread a while back, arguing for 2-B Zeno based on that, but it was rejected.

 

[Iisdude1]

Whis in heroes stated he could erase in a manner similar to Zen'ō

 

[RinneItachi]

Yeah, GP bodies. GP resists literally the only offensive ability Zeno can use, while Zeno doesn't resist and can't tank any of the offensive abilities GP can use. Meanwhile GP is incomparably more skilled, experienced, intelligent, haxed, and faster than Zeno, who couldn't keep up with people like Golden Frieza and Dyspo, although I think that could be argued as an outlier. Honestly, this GP is superior in absolutely every aspect.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Heroes Zen'o would win but canon loses

In fact, in Heroes, GP and Zen'o fought, and GP said he has no way of winning

 

[Majin_Ainsley]

Heroes Zen'o would win but canon loses
In fact, in Heroes, GP and Zen'o fought, and GP said he has no way of winning

They didn't fight, only the Angels and the avatar did

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Either way he said he cant compare to zeno. So yeah in heroes he would lose

 

[Everything12]

Question, where does Grand Priest resisting EE come from? What feat or statement?

 

[RinneItachi]

I assumed it was just due to scaling. He's far above characters who should resist EE. Such as Frieza and Goku. That's also how he got a lot of the other abilities on his profile, which he got merely from scaling above his children, the angels.

 

[Everything12]

If its that then the only ones who resist Existence Erasure are people who get it from resisting the Erasure of the Gods of Destruction and I'm pretty sure Zeno's Erasure is higher then the God's of Destruction Hakai, as Goku and Frieze who were able to survive that would have been Erased still if they lost the Tournament.

Also I'm pretty sure you can't scale resistances just because someone is stronger then someone who has the resistance, not without a direct statement or feat of that how the resistance works. The Angel thing works because their shared between a species and I believe he taught them the stuff they know but he shouldn't have stuff that Goku and Frieza has just because he's stronger.

 

[RinneItachi]

Personally I think that would work with Dragon Ball. A verse were most powers and abilities are based on the same stuff. That's also the reason that many Dragon Ball character's have "Possibly Sound Manipulation and Portal Creation" for the vice shout. It was only performed by Super Buu, then Gotenks and Piccolo working together, but due to how Dragon Ball abilities are, any Dragon Ball character of that power or higher should be able to perform the vice shout regardless. There are many other examples of this, as well. Vegito fighting even after being turned into candy should be performable by any DB character with a higher level of power, even if he's the only one who performed it.

 

[Omegas03]

The no scaling resistances thing is absolutely dumb unless you wanna make me think Beerus and Toppo can just EE Grand Priest and be done with it or that Hit's Time hax will work on Zeno.

 

[Omegas03]

I think this is the exception to the rule, because IIRC there was a guide that stated that resisting transmutation was exclusive of Vegito.

 

[Dragomer]

I think this is the exception to the rule, because IIRC there was a guide that stated that resisting transmutation was exclusive of Vegito.

No, there wasn't, the daizenshuu just had the event where he was turned into a jawbreaker under 'particularity' or something like that and even if it mean 'Only Vegeto can', it's because only Vegeto was that strong back then.

People forgot that Vegeto was the strongest canon DBZ character for a long time.

 

[Omegas03]

Ahhh that's fair, I thought it was something of the Potara. 99.9% of hax in DB gets resisted by AP then.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Literally everyone resists the candy beam in heroes Edit: Anyone stronger than Majins

 

[Dragomer]

Imagine Toriyama decided to fuse canon with Heroes, what a mess that would be.