Yu Narukami and Minato Revisions

[KinkiestSins]

I will keep this blunt, both their pages are missing some powers.

I recommend using Akira Kurusu as a guide, minus Radiation Manipulation and Empathy Manipulation. (Minus resistances for akira and 'can defy fate'

http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Persona_3_Personas

http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Persona_4_Personas

Basically, the following abilities need to be added:

Almighty skills that bypass magical defenses and resistances

High Resistance to: Elemental Manipulation, Darkness Manipulation and Light Manipulation.

Resistance Negation and Power Nullification

Also, this could be a nonissue, but Yu in canon did resist being sent away by Izanami to the underworld, I suggest he should have 'Resistance to BFR'

Also, Minato iirc resisted being instakilled from Nyx, he should be 'Resistant to Death Manipulation'

http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Izanami#Persona_4

There is probably some abilities I am missing, but those are the big ones.

Edit: Also, being able to resist hama/mudo instakill should translate to 'Resistance to OHK or Death Manipulation '

One of the two.

 

[Jesterofgames]

Um I'll ask again But how do almighty skills bypass durability When increasing your Defence Or durability it Decreases the amount of damage they do.

And also Nyx used a skilled called death But it worked like any other attack skill, granted it's possible they should have resistance to death manipulation anyways because Hama and mudo are Insta kills and they can resist them.

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

Um I'll ask again But how do almighty skills bypass durability When increasing your Defence Or durability it Decreases the amount of damage they do.
And also Nyx used a skilled called death But it worked like any other attack skill, granted it's possible they should have resistance to death manipulation anyways because Hama and mudo are Insta kills and they can resist them.

Regarding the almighty skills

We treat them as magic spells that deals damage no matter what (unless you use a barrier that was made to reflect almighty damage in the first place or you have a hax that prevents your from taking damage in the first place)

Even if status buff's are capable of decreasing the overall damage of the almighty spell.point still stands that it hurts you regardless of your durability

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

Anyways,i agree with the revision for the most part

 

[KinkiestSins]

Um I'll ask again But how do almighty skills bypass durability When increasing your Defence Or durability it Decreases the amount of damage they do.
And also Nyx used a skilled called death But it worked like any other attack skill, granted it's possible they should have resistance to death manipulation anyways because Hama and mudo are Insta kills and they can resist them.

I think Matt can answer the first one (I asked him to join this thread so he can probably explain better)

But it basically ignores resistances and defense.

http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Almighty_Skills

And on the topic of resistance to hama/mudo, I should clarify minato and yu can resist being OHKed.

 

[KinkiestSins]

Um I'll ask again But how do almighty skills bypass durability When increasing your Defence Or durability it Decreases the amount of damage they do.
And also Nyx used a skilled called death But it worked like any other attack skill, granted it's possible they should have resistance to death manipulation anyways because Hama and mudo are Insta kills and they can resist them.

Regarding the almighty skills
We treat them as magic spells that deals damage no matter what (unless you use a barrier that was made to reflect almighty damage in the first place or you have a hax that prevents your from taking damage in the first place)

Even if status buff's are capable of decreasing the overall damage of the almighty spell.point still stands that it hurts you regardless of your durability

Basically this, but I will admit I don't know that much about Allmighty (I still dont quite get it)

Matthew should be able to answer any questions regarding Allmighty.

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

Is it correct to give Yu and Makoto Resistance to Death Manipulation?

I mean the reason they can resist the OHK effects of Hama and Mudo is cause they are dark/light type spells and some Persona's give the affinity to null said elements

So should that just warrant to "resistance to Light/Dark manipulation"?

 

[KinkiestSins]

Is it correct to give Yu and Makoto Resistance to Death Manipulation?
I mean the reason they can resist the OHK effects of Hama and Mudo is cause they are dark/light type spells and some Persona's give the affinity to null said elements

So should that just warrant to "resistance to Light/Dark manipulation"?

Yes, that is a definite and this is outlined in the original post.

HOWEVER. Considering SMT translates in game to resistances, and I admit goes with in game mechanics, it doubles as r resistance to ohk

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

I can see them being able to resist OHK death manipulation in the sense that the spell used was Dark/Light type only tho

but meh i may be overthinking things.

 

[KinkiestSins]

I can see them being able to resist OHK death manipulation in the sense that the spell used was Dark/Light type only tho
but meh i may be overthinking things.

It could be both, but I think the rest of the changes are merited.

I have yet to find a post that explains Hama/Mudo skill descriptions to warrant resistance.

But it should be either OHK or Death Manipulation.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

We made a revision about Almighty skills. They do not bypass durability. They simply bypass resistances and magical defenses.

 

[KinkiestSins]

We made a revision about Almighty skills. They do not bypass durability. They simply bypass resistances and magical defenses.

Oh really? Well, must have not saw this lul.

Ehh, then I will change the text, but argument stands.

 

[KinkiestSins]

We made a revision about Almighty skills. They do not bypass durability. They simply bypass resistances and magical defenses.

But thoughts on everything else?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

 

[KinkiestSins]

/obliged to reply back with dbza reference.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

 

[Antvasima]

Well, since Dragonmasterxyz and Matthew approve, I suppose that the parts that they accepted should be fine to apply.

 

[KinkiestSins]

Since I don't know if which one they approved for the last one, I will wait to implement those changes.

Otherwise, I will change the two profiles with everything else.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[KinkiestSins]

Okay mostly done.

@Ant, Dark and Matt

If you have to give your opinion, what does being resistant to OHK spells like Hado/Mudo entail? Resistance to OHK or Death Manipulation?

 

[Antvasima]

Unless it is explicitly defined as a death manipulation attack, I do not think that we can list a resistance to it.

 

[KinkiestSins]

Unless it is explicitly defined as a death manipulation attack, I do not think that we can list a resistance to it.

I can write it off for now considering I cant find anything that proves either or.

I think this thread can be closed then.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.