Would this be proper R>F? (Weird VRMMO verse)

[BestMGQScalerEver]

So in the novel Overgeared we have basically what is the baseline setting which is the virtual world as that's where the good majority of the plot happens. But we have the Real World where the players of the VRMMO game are from and characters from the perspective of the game view the Real World as some transcendent reality.

Spoiler: scans

There's a bunch of other scans relating to this but cant find em rn.

But at the end of the novel due to a weird magical meteor in the real world it's basically heavily implied the game world sort of merges with the real world thus essentially being on same level of reality now.

Would this make the Real World where the players are from 1-A as the baseline setting where most of plot takes place is the game world and that the real world is seen as a higher or transcendent realm and the ending make stuff from the game also 1-A?

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Scans

Had been reading this series for a whiIe now, and I did think this kinda stuff might happen in the future, kinda even hoped for it, so this was a fun spoiIer too.
Anyways, off to scaIing, Iooking at the scans, I get that:

• Rebecca is some god inside the game
• Judar is the creator of said game that exists in the reaI worId.
  • Question: Is Judar a normaI human or a supernaturaI from the reaI worId?
  • If he is not the creator, who and what is the creator who came from a higher dimension? Is it a normaI human or a supernaturaI?

Assuming the creator IiteraIIy went inside the game despite being a reaI character in the reaI worId without something Iike avatar creation or through a game character, the second question is especiaIIy usefuI in determining whether the quaIitative transcendence is vaIid here or not.

Since the magicaI meteor is in the reaI worId, that impIies intervention from a higher power, Iike a 1-A making/ascending an entire Non 1-A ReaIity into 1-A, which is vaIid and not an anti-feat. So that whoIe merging part has no probIems, at Ieast.

And regarding the Is it 1-A or not question, assuming your answers to my earIier questions resuIt in it being a vaIid quaIitative transcendence, I think it is stiII heaviIy debatabIe. We may get another Sao case with the reaI worId and game worId scenario. However, personally, I would agree to it being treated as 1-A in this verse's case because of the involvement of various supernatural elements, and how the game is not just a virtual world created by someone else, but a literal world with real and conscious entities that are just viewed as a game by the higher reality.
Pretty much the same as why Yumiella's verse is 1-A on this wiki.

Some might say that Sao is aIready an exampIe of this and is Iisted as unacceptabIe in the ReaIity-fiction transcendence page, but it should also be noted that, that conclusion is literally 2 years old. It is likely that no one cared to revise that verse after the standards changed.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Had been reading this series for a whiIe now, and I did think this kinda stuff might happen in the future, kinda even hoped for it, so this was a fun spoiIer too.
Anyways, off to scaIing, Iooking at the scans, I get that:

• Rebecca is some god inside the game
• Judar is the creator of said game that exists in the reaI worId.
  • Question: Is Judar a normaI human or a supernaturaI from the reaI worId?
  • If he is not the creator, who and what is the creator who came from a higher dimension? Is it a normaI human or a supernaturaI?

Judar is a god within the game. It's just his goal is to enter the real world but he doesn't realize that it's actually an impossible task for a character in a game as said in the scans.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Assuming the creator IiteraIIy went inside the game despite being a reaI character in the reaI worId without something Iike avatar creation or through a game character, the second question is especiaIIy usefuI in determining whether the quaIitative transcendence is vaIid here or not.

Everything is done with game avatars like with the players but Judar is a game character here.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Judar is a god within the game. It's just his goal is to enter the real world but he doesn't realize that it's actually an impossible task for a character in a game as said in the scans.

I see. What about my later question, tho.

If he is not the creator, who and what is the creator who came from a higher dimension? Is it a normaI human or a supernaturaI?

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Everything is done with game avatars like with the players but Judar is a game character here.

Hmm, in that case, I guess a qualitative difference is valid here since it literally also says that a game character can never enter the real world.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

I see. What about my later question, tho.

The creator is a super intelligent artifical intelligence that manages the game in every aspect. It's also considered a type of supernatural treasure and is noted to create actual dimensions but the dimension here is a fictional game world.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

The creator is a super intelligent artifical intelligence that manages the game in every aspect. It's also considered a type of supernatural treasure and is noted to create actual dimensions but the dimension here is a fictional game world.

That is fine, too. If it can create both real and fictional dimensions, all the more reason to treat the game as an actual world.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

That is fine, too. If it can create both real and fictional dimensions, all the more reason to treat the game as an actual world.

its more like it can only create actual fictional dimensions in the form of basically a video game world so it's different from like SAO where these worlds arent necessarily really "real" at all (actual conscious beings).

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

its more like it can only create actual fictional dimensions in the form of basically a video game world so it's different from like SAO where these worlds arent necessarily really "real" at all.

i'm probably wording it really confusingly but yea it's still fictional from the perspective of the real world and the game world views higher world as being more real which is why no one can move to a higher dimension.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

i'm probably wording it really confusingly but yea it's still fictional from the perspective of the real world and the game world views higher world as being more real which is why no one can move to a higher dimension.

Yeah, I got the gist of it, and its a valid ReaIity-fiction transcendence here as far as I can see.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Yeah, I got the gist of it, and its a valid ReaIity-fiction transcendence here as far as I can see.

also sorry for spoiling didnt know you were reading and if i may ask what chapter of novel are you on

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

also sorry for spoiling didnt know you were reading and if i may ask what chapter of novel are you on

Na, no problem, I don't mind spoilers.

And not novel, but manhwa. I think I stopped at chapter 230~40 at the time I was reading and let it stack some chapters. But at some point, thought that this may just be an endless game troupe and gave up on it. But seeing that there is more to it, I think I will bing it again, especially since by now it should have around 50 or so chapters stacked up.