World of Warcraft Tiering.

[Aparajita]

Alright, well. I have found some feats and whatnot that might be enough to justify the tiering of WoW characters.


Archimonde: at least Moon level, likely planet level. Far superior to Mongrethod , Dimensius , and other entities that destroyed entire planets, the latter over time. Lore states that the most powerful of Eredar can destroy planets, and Archimonde is among the strongest. Archimonde was going to destroy Draenor.

Kil'jaeden: at least Moon level, likely planet level. Far superior to Mongrethod , Dimensius , and other entities that destroyed entire planets, the latter over time. Lore states that the most powerful of Eredar can destroy planets, and Kil'jaeden is among the strongest. Magically superior to Archmonde who was going to destroy Draenor.


"This last being leveled the rock sculptures around him, clearing a space where he could kneel in the dust made from his destruction and draw symbols of dread power with his clawed finger. When he finished, there was a moment of perfect quiet as the slaughter halted and the entire world waited in horrified stillness.

And then, an explosion.

The unleashed energies ripped the world's surface apart, and Anduin found himself crying out and throwing his arms up in terror, but the magics moved right through him without harm. The Legion marched back into the portal, returning to the dark nexus of the demons' dwelling, and in their wake was left... nothing." -Velen: Prophet's Lessions.

In this, a casual unnamed Eredar, effortlessly below Archimonde or Kil'jaeden, destroyed the crust of an entire planet.


Mannoroth: At least multi-continental, possibly higher. Far superior than the Eredar with the exception of the Lords of the Legion. Stronger than Deathwing at his peak.

Aszhara: At least multi-coninental, likely far higher. Among the Legion, it was stated that only Archimonde or Kil'jaeden could match her strength.

Deathwing: At least multi-continental. Was capable of ripping apart the surface of Azeroth. Should be superior to powerful Eredar.

The Aspects: At least continental. Overall weaker than Deathwing, although Alexstraza was able to fight him off.

Murmur: At least planet level. Casually destroyed planets with a whisper.


Thrall, Grom, Arthas, Illidan: At least Island level, likely far higher. All are extremely superior to Gul'dan who raised an island from the Ocean Floor.


Speed: I have a calculation on my blog for movement speed and there are plenty of CTG lightning dodging in the comics.

 

[Aparajita]

Le bump.

 

[Follow_Doctor_Freeman]

All this logic looks great to me. I have a friend IRL who is very knowledgeable on the verse; I'll let you know if I hear anything from him that could be useful to the matter.

EDIT: Archimode, Kil'jaeden, Mongrethod, Dimensius, and other such entities may need speed revisions if they are known for inter-planetary travel.

 

[Aparajita]

EDIT: Archimode, Kil'jaeden, Mongrethod, Dimensius, and other such entities may need speed revisions if they are known for inter-planetary travel.

iirc, they all travel via portals not self powered flight.

 

[Follow_Doctor_Freeman]

Ah, I see. Your honesty is admirable, sir.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

This seems pretty good so far. Is there any footage or depiction of Deathwings feat? If calculated, it could yield some higher-then-expected results.

 

[Aparajita]

This seems pretty good so far. Is there any footage or depiction of Deathwings feat? If calculated, it could yield some higher-then-expected results.

It was calculated and accepted, but removed for... reasons. It was calculated at Multi-Cont iirc

He tore apart the continents, and ripped up Azeroth's crust enough to get to Deepholm, that's located in the Center of the World.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that this seems reasonable.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

From what I know of Warcraft, I can say everything here seems good.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I think that these changes should be acceptable to apply then.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I believe all of the elemental gods (Ragnaros, Neptulo, and Al'Akir) should have their immortality changed from type 8 to 9 since they can only be killed on their own personal plane of existence.

 

[Aparajita]

I believe all of the elemental gods (Ragnaros, Neptulo, and Al'Akir) should have their immortality changed from type 8 to 9 since they can only be killed on their own personal plane of existence.

It's implied that they're not even dead, actually.

 

[Bepo4151]

It's implied that they're not even dead, actually.

Where was this implied all i can remember is Cenarius saying that another Fire lord will rise after Ragnaros.

 

[Aparajita]

Where was this implied all i can remember is Cenarius saying that another Fire lord will rise after Ragnaros.

No, he says "And the Firelord will arise again." after Ragnaros is defeated iirc

 

[Bepo4151]

This is from wowpedia:

"After Ragnaros perished Cenarius states that the primal power Ragnaros represented can never be truly vanquished, and that another will take his power some day. Hearing this, Hamuul suggests that they maintain a constant vigil over the realm of fire."

But overall i agree with the post except for Azshara i think she should be on the level of the Archimonde and Kil'jaeden. Mannaroth shouldn't be in the same tier as her. Here is his quote:

"Enraged by both his own failure and the questions asked by the Queen, he nearly attacked Azshara, but quickly realized the folly of such an attempt when he realized that Azshara kept inside her a power to which only Sargeras, Kil'jaeden or Archimonde would prove superior."

She was superior to him even before becoming a naga and should be more powerful now with the powers given to her by the old gods. Atleast Moon Level in my opinion.

 

[Antvasima]

Did anybody ever carry out these changes?

 

[AntorusTheBurningThrone]

Did anybody ever carry out these changes?

I don't think so. Not yet, atleast.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Aparajita or Darkanine can do so if they wish though.

 

[Aparajita]

Alright. A few things.

Thrall hurts Archimonde, although barely enough to even matter or Archimonde to actually register. That wouldn't be possible if Archimonde was Moon and Thrall is Island. Outlier? Or maybe they should be higher than Island?

About speed. We see Thrall dodging lightning in the comics, it hasn't been calced, should i keep it at unknown?

 

[Antvasima]

Without a calculation, it is probably best to keep the speed at unknown, but if possible link to a scan of the feat, so it can be handled later.

I do not know what tier that Thrall should be.

 

[Bepo4151]

Thrall hurting Archimonde is probably outlier because Mannaroth didn't get any damage from the same Thrall earlier in the game.

 

[AntorusTheBurningThrone]

This is from wowpedia:
"After Ragnaros perished Cenarius states that the primal power Ragnaros represented can never be truly vanquished, and that another will take his power some day. Hearing this, Hamuul suggests that they maintain a constant vigil over the realm of fire."

But overall i agree with the post except for Azshara i think she should be on the level of the Archimonde and Kil'jaeden. Mannaroth shouldn't be in the same tier as her. Here is his quote:

"Enraged by both his own failure and the questions asked by the Queen, he nearly attacked Azshara, but quickly realized the folly of such an attempt when he realized that Azshara kept inside her a power to which only Sargeras, Kil'jaeden or Archimonde would prove superior."

She was superior to him even before becoming a naga and should be more powerful now with the powers given to her by the old gods. Atleast Moon Level in my opinion.

The Future Firelord is actually In WOW: Legion


His name is "Smolderon"